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Offline ola_martin

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Done...........but won't run... :(
« on: June 04, 2013, 05:22:16 pm »
Finished the assembly on my 490 last night.


But it won't run.
It fires up quite easy, runs ok up to about 1/4 to 1/3 throttle, then it quits.

I use a Keihin 38 flatslide, and got reccomended pilot42 and main 170. Tried this first, rode a little on 1/4 throttle and the pipe got blue right away, and wouldn't run on high revs at all.
So I figured it was lean, and just upped to the biggest jets (pilot55 main 185) I had, to try. It's exactly the same. If I just keep it on full throttle it stops, and then the sparkplug is wet.
But it doesn't sound rich when I do it, and if I crack it open real fast it revs up for about a second or two before before it gives up. Sounds just like if you where to slowly kill it with the rear brake while keeping throttle, no blubbering etc....

So I'm thinking if it could be the ignition, std motoplat, adjusted by the marks to about 2mm, can't remember what the book said, but like reccomended in the owners manual. Can the markings be off, so it's way late?
Or does it have a two step advance, and the rev mode isn't working?






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Re: Done...........but won't run... :(
« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2013, 05:36:47 pm »
  Fuel blockage?     Float level too low?

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Re: Done...........but won't run... :(
« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2013, 05:42:42 pm »
Fuel not blocked, haven't checked float level, but brand new carb. And sparkplug is wet when it has stopped....

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Re: Done...........but won't run... :(
« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2013, 05:50:50 pm »
Check the washer between the main jet and thee emulsion tube....

Sometimes it is a washer,  sometimes a open tube designed to stop bypass between the main jet and the holder.

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Re: Done...........but won't run... :(
« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2013, 06:02:08 pm »
OK, thanks, will check, it's a Keihin PWK 38mm by the way.

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Re: Done...........but won't run... :(
« Reply #5 on: June 04, 2013, 06:12:17 pm »
Despite the hiccups, you've done a great job mate. That's a credit to you the finished project, just hang it up in the shed  ;) ;D
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Re: Done...........but won't run... :(
« Reply #6 on: June 04, 2013, 06:14:23 pm »
Thanks buddy, but my other bikes are just sitting on their stand, so I hoped this could be a racer... ;)

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Re: Done...........but won't run... :(
« Reply #7 on: June 04, 2013, 06:21:41 pm »
Dodgy kill switch or not earthed well enough?

Nice job btw

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Re: Done...........but won't run... :(
« Reply #8 on: June 04, 2013, 06:23:21 pm »
Thanks buddy, but my other bikes are just sitting on their stand, so I hoped this could be a racer... ;)

Geez they must be flash as Michael Jackson!! :o enjoy racing this beauty then  ;D
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Re: Done...........but won't run... :(
« Reply #9 on: June 04, 2013, 06:25:32 pm »
Be interested in the result on this one - I have a KX250 which behaves the same way  :P
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Re: Done...........but won't run... :(
« Reply #10 on: June 04, 2013, 06:26:09 pm »
Take the fuel bowl off and see if the fuel flows freely. Might be a incorrectly installed crank seal. The ignition timing could be way out.
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Re: Done...........but won't run... :(
« Reply #11 on: June 04, 2013, 06:33:30 pm »
I've had a bike do exactly that and it was the main jet baffle fitted upside down touching against the bowl and blocking fuel from getting to the main jet!

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Re: Done...........but won't run... :(
« Reply #12 on: June 04, 2013, 07:20:13 pm »
Thats a real nice Maico mate... and I am not a Maico sort of man.... but I can really appreciate the work you have put into that.

I have built a few bikes that have done exactly as you have described....

I might be unlucky, but both times it has been drawing trans fluid up through the centre cases under high RPM, but actually idling okay.

Both times I had to re-split the cases and use good quality three bond (Yamabond) on the case halves after gently 'lapping' them to get the best sealing surface.


I hope for your sake that isn't the drama..... but something to ponder.... are you having to clean the spark plug each time?

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Re: Done...........but won't run... :(
« Reply #13 on: June 04, 2013, 07:27:53 pm »
Was worried about the same, either between crankcases or crankseal on primary side.... It does smoke a bit :(

Don't have to clean plug, but will take quite a few kicks if I let it die on full trottle.

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Re: Done...........but won't run... :(
« Reply #14 on: June 04, 2013, 07:53:04 pm »
Is the fuel tank venting properly? J