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Offline jerry

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Re: Fear and Loathing in the VMX bunker
« Reply #30 on: May 12, 2013, 08:18:24 pm »
Kids are the future. I grabbed a bunch recently and showed them "On any Sunday" they absolutely got it. Should be compulsory viewing at school. J

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Re: Fear and Loathing in the VMX bunker
« Reply #31 on: May 12, 2013, 08:20:28 pm »
Correct me I I'm wrong, but the "young punks" angst seems to come from the A-grade blokes who borrow a bike just to win an Aussie title...

where, when and who ?
Like it or lump it ~ kids are the future  :)

As demonstrated by their queing up to enter the recently cancelled post classic nats  ;)

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Re: Fear and Loathing in the VMX bunker
« Reply #32 on: May 12, 2013, 08:59:06 pm »
where, when and who ?
Like it or lump it ~ kids are the future  :)

CDT Nats in Canberra a few years back is the particular case in point.
At least a few ozvmx regulars went home with bent bikes and/or bodies after being on the wrong end of hyper aggressive passing moves.

These aren't blokes who turn up regularly, or have any demonstrated interest in old bikes - they are not the future, they're just trophy hunters on borrowed bikes.
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« Reply #33 on: May 12, 2013, 09:14:22 pm »
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Re: Fear and Loathing in the VMX bunker
« Reply #34 on: May 12, 2013, 09:18:26 pm »
Hi TM bill and VMX247. While I dont disagree with VMX, we seem to be waiting a long time for the young riders to demonstrate they are the future. Hopefully when they are older that will prove to be true.
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Pre 75 125 Up to 29 yrs   3  30-39  3  40-49  11  50-59  16  60 + 4
     "    250       "             3       "     6     "      16      "     28     "    13
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There were more Ladies than 16-29
There were more sidecars than 16-29

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Re: Fear and Loathing in the VMX bunker
« Reply #35 on: May 12, 2013, 09:20:35 pm »
Two weeks ago I asked a couple of questions in competition- 2013 Aust classic mx title, yet still no reply. Even a we have no answers yet would be good. Maybe trying to keep the interest for the people already in the sport would be a good start.

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Re: Fear and Loathing in the VMX bunker
« Reply #36 on: May 13, 2013, 10:59:36 am »
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Two weeks ago I asked a couple of questions in competition- 2013 Aust classic mx title, yet still no reply. Even a we have no answers yet would be good. Maybe trying to keep the interest for the people already in the sport would be a good start
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Only six months away now.
Wondering if there are any updates for the event.
eg. friday- scrutineering
     when allowed on site for camping
     supp regs.
I now its still a bit early but six months goes quick at our age.
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Troy I imagine you didn't get any replies because as of right now, I don't think anyone knows the answers to your questions. I don't think you're being snubbed, I think we're all in the same boat as you and were waiting for someone to answer you :-\.
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Like it or lump it ~ kids are the future   
Alison and Steve, I understand your situation as the parents of a young rider competing on your bikes and I really hope he's the exception to the rule. I'm certain though that the majority of kids riding their dads bikes at a vintage meeting are only there to please dad and for the free ride. They have little or no affinity with the bikes or the culture that goes with them. The light at the end of the tunnel is that they might indeed become vintage racings future down the track when the modern bikes that currently get their adrenalin flowing become vintage racing legal. Until then however they're just racing old bikes because dad is.
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Re: Fear and Loathing in the VMX bunker
« Reply #37 on: May 13, 2013, 12:55:24 pm »
I have just sent a reply off to Troy Bayless about having a stand at next years Bike Expo in Brisbane on the 21st to 23rd of March he is running (there's one in Melbourne on the 28th to 30th November). It's free for us (QVMX) and should make shitloads of people more aware of our great sport. The thing is it's next year but you have to plan ahead. There aren't many big bike shows anymore where all the manufacturers get behind and put on a show. Sad thing is Australia's biggest city misses out....Qld and Vic must be the big states when it comes to bike sales.....also makes me wonder if this has something to do with the no show of NSW riders at the recently cancelled Post Classic titles (no conspiracy theory's boys, well maybe a few)....maybe there aren't that many in NSW?....whats the go?...are they too hard to deal with in NSW?
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Re: Fear and Loathing in the VMX bunker
« Reply #38 on: May 13, 2013, 01:11:24 pm »
Seems like road racing has managed to make more of a jump to get younger riders out there
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Re: Fear and Loathing in the VMX bunker
« Reply #39 on: May 13, 2013, 03:42:14 pm »
Kids aren't the future of vmx they're the future of modern mx. 30+yo modern racers/riders are the future of vmx, just like I was and many of my friends now enjoying vmx!

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Re: Fear and Loathing in the VMX bunker
« Reply #40 on: May 13, 2013, 05:27:53 pm »
Kids aren't the future of vmx they're the future of modern mx. 30+yo modern racers/riders are the future of vmx, just like I was and many of my friends now enjoying vmx!

You know there's something going on when JohnnyO, Wasp and I are all in agreement.

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Re: Fear and Loathing in the VMX bunker
« Reply #41 on: May 13, 2013, 05:32:38 pm »
You know there's something going on when JohnnyO, Wasp and I are all in agreement.

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Re: Fear and Loathing in the VMX bunker
« Reply #42 on: May 14, 2013, 08:16:11 am »
Bike Expo in Brisbane  The thing is it's next year but you have to plan ahead. There aren't many big bike shows anymore

You'll have a ball,as we did at the Perth Motorcycle Show attracting all the over 30 years olds,,shoot any kid that comes near the place  ;)  ;)   :D   ;D

Quote Nathan "Correct me I I'm wrong, but the "young punks" angst seems to come from the A-grade blokes who borrow a bike just to win an Aussie title... The young guys who are genuinely into the old bikes are welcomed with open arms, regardless of how fast they are."

Ali,  Nathans statement above sums it up  ;) kids with a genuine interest are welcomed  :) we have our own Michael (Frosty ) on here , hes not a kid now but was when he first got involved with old bikes  :)

Maybe shows like these can get more young people interested  ??? im 50 yrs old and i have bugger all interest in anything  any bikes pre 1960 as i dont relate to them .

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Re: Fear and Loathing in the VMX bunker
« Reply #43 on: May 15, 2013, 09:30:58 am »
A stand at the main bike shows is a good idea as there certainly a lot of "mid lifers" there looking to regain their youth  :D

Also, what about the local vmx clubs having a display at modern mx events?  The junior events maybe be better as the parents will be there and they are the ones that we are looking to attract to the sport? Just a thought....

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Re: Fear and Loathing in the VMX bunker
« Reply #44 on: May 20, 2013, 07:22:26 pm »
A stand at the main bike shows is a good idea as there certainly a lot of "mid lifers" there looking to regain their youth  :D

Also, what about the local vmx clubs having a display at modern mx events?  The junior events maybe be better as the parents will be there and they are the ones that we are looking to attract to the sport? Just a thought....

Absolutely spot on the money! It seems that some clubs involved in VMX are in it to make money. Even to the extent where tens of thousands of dollars are sitting in bank accounts while "home" tracks and amenities are slowly degrading into oblivion. The idea apparently being that the club needs the money for those days when only 10 riders turn up to a meeting..... Am I missing something? Or does there genuinely need to be more promotion of VMX?

Further more, no younger rider wants to race around a flat paddock full of bog holes that drown bikes and without so much as a tiny jump for coo-wee....

It seems if you are a younger VMXer (than the club's average committee member age), you're ideas and opinions are far from well received. No matter how much work you do or insight into "modern" successful club ethos's you might have.

The powers that be in our sport dictate what we (as paying riders AND MA members) must do. Surely if our numbers are dwindling (and indeed they are) those with the power to change things with the stroke of a pen MUST start asking members questions AND listening to ideas other that their collective own.

Imagine if you will, having Classic VMX title events in conjunction with, lets say, MotoGP at the island. Or as a spectacle at a V8 supercar round. Or even running around at lunchtime at any of the MX nationals events...... MA is both a promoter and insurer now so as far as I see it, there should be no obstacle(s) other than lack of interest from those that control OUR purse strings!

The point is, there is no active promotion of our chosen pastime/sport other than Suzuki CD's and Honda's BBB. Both of which are outstanding successes. MA's museum is testament to the money that is made from MA paying members and of recent times the success of HBBB.

Whatever happened to the ethos of "everything we do must be for the betterment of our sport"???????????
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