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Offline oldyzman

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Here is an OW26 Maico for you Yamaico
« on: April 26, 2013, 09:52:47 pm »
http://www.vintageworksbikes.com/1973OWMaico.html
God knows how much it is for sale for?
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Re: Here is an OW26 Maico for you Yamaico
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2013, 10:48:11 pm »
They don't come any tricker than Ake's OW26 Kramer. I believe that the factory chucked a monumental hissy fit when they saw it and made him ride something with more Yamaha content. It originally had Maico forks as well (see below). I think (but not certain) that Ake only used this bike in the early part of the 73 season until the new works monoshocks arrived.
                                                                            
Ake at Carlsbad during the '73 Trans-AMA.
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Re: Here is an OW26 Maico for you Yamaico
« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2013, 11:06:26 pm »
They don't come any tricker than Ake's OW26 Kramer. I believe that the factory chucked a monumental hissy fit when they saw it and made him ride something with more Yamaha content. It originally had Maico forks as well (see below). I think (but not certain) that Ake only used this bike in the early part of the 73 season until the new works monoshocks arrived.
                                                                            

Ake at Carlsbad during the '73 Trans-AMA.


Hmmm
This bike looks like it has the Monoshock
Also different sub frame behind the seat.
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Re: Here is an OW26 Maico for you Yamaico
« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2013, 11:18:02 pm »
Correcto Geoff, well spotted.....the bike with the Kramer frame was only raced in Sweden while the other bike is the monoshock that got him in the shit with the factory even more than with the Kramer. Interesting that the twin shock bike got the trick works Kayaba forks yet he went back to his beloved Maico forks on the Monoshock.
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Re: Here is an OW26 Maico for you Yamaico
« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2013, 11:20:49 pm »
Marks having another senior moment after the bunnies huge win over Manly.....whoohoo....it aint a OW26 as thats a 75 model and it does look like a monoshock bitza.....wonder what happened to it.
« Last Edit: April 26, 2013, 11:27:19 pm by Davey Crocket »
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Re: Here is an OW26 Maico for you Yamaico
« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2013, 11:34:31 pm »
I have just looked at the bike that Oldyzman put up and I reckon its a fake....big time....the only thing that looks factory is the motor....those forks have been made up, it should have a magnesium front hub and backing plate.....rear brake torque arm is a 80's model CR, the rear wheel looks like a later production Yam part....those tripples are home made so to speak....I'm pretty sure they didnt lay the shocks down like that.......I could go on....that site the bikes on is known for having dodgy bikes on it.
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Re: Here is an OW26 Maico for you Yamaico
« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2013, 10:33:11 am »
IMO it looks like left over parts , yup there are some works parts on the bike. Can he show a photo with Ake on it?
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Re: Here is an OW26 Maico for you Yamaico
« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2013, 10:37:49 am »
Check your history Davey...you'll find that Ake did indeed build that Kramer Maico when he wasn't happy with what Yamaha gave him when he moved from Maico. It was used as a negotiating tool to get Yamaha off their arses in chassis development. Ake was notorious for flucking with his works bikes, fitting things off other brands to suit what he wanted (Husky front wheel on his '72 works Maico for example)

And....the photo was  indeed taken in 1973 at Carlsbad, the caption from Ake's own website akejonsson.com/ stating "1973GP Carlsbad"......no senior moment from me my learned friend, despite my Waskally Wabbits hammering those dirty, cheating Sea Eagles.

                                                                      
1973 GP Ettelbruck, Ake on his way, winning both motos. Caption taken straight from Ake's website. A different bike but still appears to be a monoshock with Maico forks.
 

                                                                        
The Maico or Kramer framed OW26 at a pre season International in England in early '73.
« Last Edit: April 27, 2013, 10:41:10 am by firko »
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Re: Here is an OW26 Maico for you Yamaico
« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2013, 10:49:01 am »
I'm talking about the one oldyzman put the link up too....I know the Ake built the bike you put up that that "thing" for sale is a fake...home made like some of those phase 3 Falcons getting around. Look at your picture (even has those horrible thermaflows on it), then look at the "replica".....Go the Bunnies.....still dont like your chances in the State of Origin or the Bledisloe.
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Re: Here is an OW26 Maico for you Yamaico
« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2013, 10:51:02 am »
                                                                      
                                                       Ake in 1974..the bike looks more Yamaha by now but still with Maico forks.
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Re: Here is an OW26 Maico for you Yamaico
« Reply #10 on: April 27, 2013, 10:56:44 am »
you sure the last photo has maico forks

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Re: Here is an OW26 Maico for you Yamaico
« Reply #11 on: April 27, 2013, 11:09:09 am »
I agree John that the bike in the Clay Setzer website is more than a bit dodgy but it's a fact that Ake did use a Kramer frame in 1973 because he hated the stock YZ360A frame's handling. I will admit that I'd never seen photos of it before but it's been written about in (I think) Torsten Hallmans book or possibly Frank Mellings legendary classic on motocross suspension development (and other points) 'The Big Leap'.
What about the other statement you made but have conveniently sidestepped .... "thats a 75 model and it does look like a monoshock bitza ?" A little 'mea culpa' humility would be a nice touch on this sunny Saturday morning ;D.
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you sure the last photo has maico forks
No Paul, but they're closer to Maico than anything Yamaha produced at the time. By then he'd been in enough shit with the factory and had began to toe the line a bit, those forks could be KYB or custom forks made to replicate his beloved Maicos forks. It's worth spending a couple of hours researching Ake Jonsson's post Husqvarna race career....he was very prone to fluck with his bikes to achieve what he thought the bikes needed to win. It's ironic that his stay at Yamaha was only three years before he was back at Maico for two years and then his final year in GPs on....guess what? Kramer ;). Ake's my all time favourite GP rider because he did it his way. His 1972 Trans AMA clean sweep was devestatingly brutal.
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Re: Here is an OW26 Maico for you Yamaico
« Reply #12 on: April 27, 2013, 11:26:20 am »
Issue 12 vmx mag has article on ? the bike in question. J

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Re: Here is an OW26 Maico for you Yamaico
« Reply #13 on: April 27, 2013, 11:35:03 am »
OW25/26= 1975......OW12/13= 1974......thats what I was referring too.....oldmate is way out of touch if he thinks thats a OW26....look up Terry Goods site....MXWORKSBIKES...I have a set of OW25/26 forks that have the external springs...and a proper mag front hub....and a few more bits.....now Mr "mea culpa" back at ya....and what about your sidestep?   State of Origin....Bledisloe?...wheres JohnnyO when you need him? ;D
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Re: Here is an OW26 Maico for you Yamaico
« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2013, 11:38:21 am »
Ake's my all time favourite GP rider because he did it his way. His 1972 Trans AMA clean sweep was devestatingly brutal

Right at a time when motocross was really coming on song. He would have to have been one of the "inventors" of the modern motocrosser for sure.