Pro-Tec HL Yamaha

[firko]

OK, I'll admit that the seller may think that what he's got is a real HL Yamaha but what bothers me is that someone equally as naive will come along and plop down his 9k thinking he's bought a classic piece of motocross history. It never used to bother me but this recent influx of HL Yamahas, Mugen Hondas, DG Suzuki's and Wheelsmith Maicos, all claiming to be the real deal isn't doing our sports credibility any favours. Nobody loves a trick bike more than moi and I love it when someone goes to the trouble to replicate his dream bike but I do wish they'd advertise them as tribute or replica and not alude that they're the real thing. As an example for CD10 I'm converting my DT1 Enduro over to DT1MX specification using only genuine GYT parts but I'd never sell it as a DT1MX because no matter how many genuine GYT or MX parts I use, it's still onlly a DT1 Enduro fitted with a GYT kit. It'll never be a genuine DT1MX.

[crash n bern]

For all intent and purposes that bloke might think that making it look like one makes it one.  You always get the odd bloke that reckons if he cuts the rear loop of the frame it's as good as.  I could be wrong, he might be dodgey, someone should call him and ask.

And before I plonked down $9,000 on anything I would post it here so all the anoraks could dissect it down to the last non origional spoke nipple.

[Oppet]

I call mine replica of the replica 
http://keskustelu.classicmx.fi/index.php?topic=102.0

[JohnnyO]

I call mine replica of the replica 
http://keskustelu.classicmx.fi/index.php?topic=102.0

Would be great if i could read Swahili..

[PEZBerq]

Swahili ....it's Finnish   Google translate or Apple translate is worth the effort ..... sometimes. The interweb is a marvelous thing 

[evo550]

It's like a paralell dimension OZVMX forum.

[TM BILL]

Swahili ....it's Finnish   Google translate or Apple translate is worth the effort ..... sometimes. The interweb is a marvelous thing 

Finnish i cant even get started , cant understand a word 

[Oppet]

You know, its much easyer to read than your language, just pronounce it as you read. Cant help much for understanding part 

Hölökynkölökyn!

[firko]

Kaikki tämä on minulle kapulakieltä

But seriously, it's great that Oppet, Ola Martin and the other Euro's come on here. They're all way more articulate in English than some of our Aussie posters and their contributions have been informative and entertaining. It's pretty embarrassing that most of us have no foreign language skills whatsoever yet these guys can post well formulated posts with nary a mistake. Out of respect for their effort coming on here and communicating with us in a foreign language we should make the translation effort to see what those wacky Finns/ Swedes and Norwegians are up to. I did and it's interesting.

[euro bikes]

Yes and they have the history of motocross behind them.

[Vintmxman]

It's a 12 to 14 K bike top and that reaching IMHO !

[Marc.com]

Nobody loves a trick bike more than moi and I love it when someone goes to the trouble to replicate his dream bike but I do wish they'd advertise them as tribute or replica and not alude that they're the real thing.

But back to the Pro Tec Yamaha, in this case it is the real thing, the Pro Tec is just as much an HL500 as the NVT bikes or whatever you like, actually given that the Aberg bikes that were raced were Pro Tec frames then you could say that they are the real HL500s, the Hallman bikes ditto as they were Pro Tec, the NVT bikes not as they came off a different jig, but however they were advertised as HL500s by Yamaha.

So I would say the advertiser is totally accurate, it is Pro Tec Aberg rep and a very special one as it has racing provenance and highly developed engine. Regarding the price, his bike he can ask what he wants. As I mentioned given that the other Pro Tec HL had a 50K price tag it is not out of the park, RH250s are up there as are CCM, this bike has a better pedigree than some of the CCMs that come up.

[firko]

Marc I wasn't being critical of the Pro-tec I was having a backdoor slag at the poor bugger advertising a modified stocker as a real deal HL and the myriad of Wheelsmith Maicos, Motocross Fox Hondas and Suzukis and Mugen Hondas that seem to be breeding in suburbia. I actually think that Pro-Tec is the best HL I've seen in ages.

[Marc.com]

I actuallt thing that Pro-Tec is the best HL I've seen in ages.

Yeah I can understand Firko, there are a lot of Fox CRs, Mugens etc out there. Guess people want to jazz up the description a bit, don't totally blame them, its getting harder to sell stuff, so laying it on a bit thick might drag someone in.

But it is always a bit grey with the specials, like if you have forks, swinger and shocks is that a Fox CR ?, Fox RMs even murkier still, is it Simons forks, FMF swinger and Fox Shox. Where you have no real 'production bike' then you probably have to give the benefit of the doubt to some specials. Though I admit TT500 frame with YZ tank does not an HL make.

[firko]

I actuallt thing that Pro-Tec is the best HL I've seen in ages

I just re-read the post, it's one of the first I've done using my phone and you can tell my thumbs aren't up to it yet.....either that or I'm channeling Dave

Marc, you and I are the forum poster boys for building wacky specials but neither of us have the gall to call our creations something they're not. "Though I admit TT500 frame with YZ tank does not an HL make. " nor does a set of cutaway fins and a blue sticker maketh a Wheelsmith Maico. I'm not convinced in the slightest that these sellers do it out of ignorance either. The biggest culprits seem to be commercial operations (Arizona Mike being the cult leader for this motley crew ).