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Re: MAICO Pre-60 Alloy Oval Barrel Blizzard Project.
« Reply #120 on: May 07, 2013, 07:48:14 pm »
I have more and I can cut and paste also mick to the other post.


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Re: MAICO Pre-60 Alloy Oval Barrel Blizzard Project.
« Reply #122 on: May 07, 2013, 08:45:28 pm »
I have more and I can cut and paste also mick to the other post.

Other thread Dave, not post, the other thread Dave. That would be good Dave.

I primarily started this thread so I could learn from the "tree of knowledge" as to what constitutes a legal Australian Pre-60 X1 framed Maico blizzard project, OK,,,. All though, so far, Mine will be just a plain old 1957 Maico Blizzard framed with a choice of two engines.
The first engine being a Round Iron Barrel 250 blizzard engine.
The second engine being a 175 Alloy Oval Barrel engine From a 1957 175 Super Sport, Road going Blizzard










Apologies if the scans could be better,,,,just the frustrations of more shit I have to learn.
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« Reply #123 on: May 07, 2013, 08:56:20 pm »
pre 60 ;D
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http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Norton-Model-50-1954-350cc-Single-/251272020513?pt=AU_Motorcycles&hash=item3a80fac221

Yeah, I should have just bought a going concern, but I love tinkering, learning, Maicos and building.

That Blue 57 AJ you put up that time would have been the go I reckon. Lets see If I still have the Pic???????

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Re: MAICO Pre-60 Alloy Oval Barrel Blizzard Project.
« Reply #124 on: May 07, 2013, 09:27:40 pm »
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do you know where it was taken ?
My bet's Holland Bill...it looks sandy and I think that's Dutch rider Rudy Boom or Jan van der Hoek on the Adler, possibly Fritz Betzelbacher on the Maico.
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Re: MAICO Pre-60 Alloy Oval Barrel Blizzard Project.
« Reply #125 on: May 08, 2013, 07:56:52 am »
I realise this Blizzard needs the side stand removed, a folding gear lever fitted and verifying that the rear fender is metal.


This bike maybe a 1960 or a 1961 model, but never the less it is one beauty of a Pre-60 mount as well ;D

   Another expensive ebay purchase for this project,,,,,,,Uuuumm
Yeap just as I suspected


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« Reply #126 on: May 08, 2013, 10:13:07 am »
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Another expensive ebay purchase for this project,,,,,,,Uuuumm
Yeap just as I suspected
AAAAAAHHHHH! what a bugger Mick....I bet you were livid >:(. Was it insured? You're right, some of the senders are indeed dumb, not even thinking about packing the stuff properly to avoid over zealous postal staff handling. I've been lucky with my stuff coming from overseas but have had my share of squashed packages including a flat track seat base that was broken in half. I guess we have to suck it up but it's certainly frustrating.
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Re: MAICO Pre-60 Alloy Oval Barrel Blizzard Project.
« Reply #127 on: May 08, 2013, 10:22:53 am »
ouch

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« Reply #128 on: May 08, 2013, 10:26:18 am »
I know the pre 60 and pre 65 Maico thread boundaries are getting blurred but this Maico fin treatment does it for me. There was a mob that did similar finning on Maico go-cart engines (Zeigler, Zeidler or something like that)which I think is what my square barrel 250 was copied from. Maybe this is one of their creations. It's given me ideas for my Metisse. If I'm going to build a hot rod Maico, why not go the whole hog as long as it fits into the pre 65 concept. Any idea of this finning was available prior to 1965?
                                                                     
                                                                             
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Re: MAICO Pre-60 Alloy Oval Barrel Blizzard Project.
« Reply #129 on: May 08, 2013, 10:33:08 am »
   Another expensive ebay purchase for this project,,,,,,,Uuuumm
Yeap just as I suspected


The whole world has Its share of impossible to educate D#*B C^%TS
It is just that some countries call them by different names ::)
            DUMM K*^TS maybe.
 

Ouch, that sucks.
Is that the cast iron barrel?
I guess it must be for the fins to break that easy.
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Re: MAICO Pre-60 Alloy Oval Barrel Blizzard Project.
« Reply #130 on: May 08, 2013, 12:03:49 pm »
cutting fins is cooling factor not a performance part, so it should matter in pre 65.

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Re: MAICO Pre-60 Alloy Oval Barrel Blizzard Project.
« Reply #131 on: May 08, 2013, 02:09:51 pm »
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cutting fins is cooling factor not a performance part, so it should matter in pre 65.
I does matter Dave. Cutting the fins drastically modifies the look of the motor which would incite hate from the rule Nazi's. Being all about peace, love and goodwill I'd hate to rile the ire of these folks by presenting a bike with an engine that doesn't look pre 65. If it can be proved to have been done by somebody prior to the cutoff date (pardon the pun) for pre 65 I'm doing it.
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Re: MAICO Pre-60 Alloy Oval Barrel Blizzard Project.
« Reply #132 on: May 08, 2013, 11:53:10 pm »
Ouch, alright Paul.

Yes Geoff, Cast Iron. It should be of reasonable grade one would assume though, given its application and the fact that Maico made 5 digit # amounts of these.

I bought it, for the once perfect fins. Yes disappointed at first Mark, but that passed quickly. At least the seller is not a thieving scumbag with an intentional lying description, he is just a dumb f***, with little to no idea. In regards to a PayPal claim the trouble is, because of its weight, it is more $s to post back, return with tracking and receipted arrival for a smaller refund(purchase price only). I asked him politely for a refund, he ignored me so I left a Negative, something I rarely do. I am OK with it. I always expect some level of risk with ebay, its only a hobby. I will just have to weld them back on I guess.




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Re: MAICO Pre-60 Alloy Oval Barrel Blizzard Project.
« Reply #133 on: May 09, 2013, 08:56:33 am »
Yes Geoff, Cast Iron. It should be of reasonable grade one would assume though, given its application and the fact that Maico made 5 digit # amounts of these.

Cast iron is weldable but it’s a bit like guessing the Lotto as to what they have put in the mix.
Some cast iron will weld easily while others can be a real bitch.
And I have come across the same parts for the same models that will weld differently so it can also depend on the casting batch on the day.
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Re: MAICO Pre-60 Alloy Oval Barrel Blizzard Project.
« Reply #134 on: May 09, 2013, 12:54:51 pm »
The cost of postage on that lum of cast iron out of euro would be more that the barrel cost

What about removing the broken top fin only with the head on be hard to pick

Pity it was not a Alloy barrel   ;D

My DKW projects have been a pain in the arse postage wise out of Germany