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Offline Mick D

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MAICO Pre-60 Alloy Oval Barrel Blizzard Project.
« on: February 27, 2013, 07:43:17 am »
I guess I am a bit excited after looking at the bikes thrown up in 090's pre 60 hunt.

I am only collecting bits at this stage.

So far I have just purchased a frame with Paul's help

I have a 57 250 bottom end and this 250 Iron Barrel top end is on the way


And this tank, when it arrives of course


Although unlikely, if anyone has any other bits for a Maico blizzard project and wishes to sell, please PM me.




« Last Edit: April 30, 2013, 01:42:07 pm by Mick De »
"light weight, and it works great"  :)

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Re: MAICO Pre-60 Iron Barrel Blizzard Project.
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2013, 08:31:03 am »

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Re: MAICO Pre-60 Iron Barrel Blizzard Project.
« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2013, 09:51:58 am »
Sounds good Mick! The more of these old girls we can get on the track the better. We will have to get a secret pre 60 hand shake happening. Lets face it, anyone can have a pre 75 bike!  :D

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Re: MAICO Pre-60 Iron Barrel Blizzard Project.
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2013, 03:38:57 pm »
thats true
but who has a pre 60 bike that their older brother built from real race bike parts.
what would be me
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Re: MAICO Pre-60 Iron Barrel Blizzard Project.
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2013, 09:37:28 pm »
My '64 KR250 oval Maico is here awaiting customs and quarantine clearance and the Metisse frame and bodywork intended for my 360 oval pre 65 bike arrives on March 31 from the UK. The Maico pre 65 project has had a direction change even before the Metisse kit gets here. Because we suspect the Metisse to be something pretty rare, I may not fit the Maico engine and will instead fit the engine intended for it and I'll now use another lighter, left field pre 65 frame I'd been keeping under wraps for a rainy day.   
'68 Yamaha DT1 enduro, '69 Yamaha 'DT1 from Hell' '69 DT1'Dunger from Hell, '69 Cheney Yamaha 360, 70 Maico 350 (2 off), '68 Hindall Ducati 250, Hindall RT2MX, Hindall YZ250a , Cycle Factory RT2MX flat tracker, Yamaha 1T250J, Maico 250 trials, '71, Boyd and Stellings TM400, Shell OW72,750 Yamaha

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Re: MAICO Pre-60 Iron Barrel Blizzard Project.
« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2013, 01:51:46 am »
Hey that back wheel looks alright Paul. Great unexpected bonus, Cheers.


Thanks Brad. I think it set of a few alarm bells, seeing only one entry in the pre-65 at CRC in 2012. I got to thinking if anyone is set on doing the 4"/7" thing, then may as well throw their hat in to the ring of that of the two early classes  ;D That and the real truth being my master plan that I could honestly answer when I got home that I came in second :D And was only beaten by the Man From Snowy River at the 2013 CRC pre65  ;D

GeoffGraeme Morris has often had that 59 Jawa on display at the CRC,s. A good bloke, by all accounts.
It must be making him feel at ease to know his little baby will be treasured and maintained and more importantly raced and campained as it was born to do. Great score.


« Last Edit: March 01, 2013, 03:51:38 pm by Mick De »
"light weight, and it works great"  :)

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Re: MAICO Pre-60 Iron Barrel Blizzard Project.
« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2013, 10:40:48 am »
Firko, Mick De and Paul check out Micks latest oval barrel Blizzard, Micks stylish lederhosen and sensible sandals really setting the teutonic mood  ;D.
                                                                                   




Thanks to Gus for the photo.
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Re: MAICO Pre-60 Iron Barrel Blizzard Project.
« Reply #7 on: March 27, 2013, 02:09:58 pm »
Mark,
        You being the senior spokesman here on the pre 65 class, are you going to lobby that all riders of pre 65 German bikes will be allowed to wear long leaderhosen pants (but with boots instead of socks and snadles).

Just a thought!

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Re: MAICO Pre-60 Iron Barrel Blizzard Project.
« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2013, 06:18:46 pm »
Kevin dont forget the compulsory braces for the pants
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Re: MAICO Pre-60 Iron Barrel Blizzard Project.
« Reply #9 on: April 03, 2013, 10:06:39 am »
mick did the frames arrive yet

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« Reply #10 on: April 03, 2013, 11:52:26 am »
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GeoffGraeme Morris has often had that 59 Jawa on display at the CRC,s. A good bloke, by all accounts.
It's Dave Morris Mick......A genuinely good bloke who's a walking encyclopedia of Jawa/CZ knowledge.

I've got an update on my 360 Maico 0val/Metisse project. As we speak the frame and new bodywork are arriving here in Oz from the UK...along with Jims Antig slider. The plan was to build a Maico Metisse for the pre 65 class which I reckon would have been a truly competitive 500 class pre 65er. While the frame was enroute I decided to do some research on it and have discovered something very interesting that has unfortunately put a block on my using it for the Maico project. It turns out that the frame is a genuine DT1 Yamaha Metisse item, one of only 22 made by Rickman back in 1968/69. Because of the bikes rarity and the fact that I've got a decent old stash of Yamaha DT1 engines and running gear, it'd be pretty silly of me to not build it as a DT1 Metisse. It'll be a good partner to my Cheney RT1 as examples of the 60's Brit perspective on improving Japanese engineering.

The Pre 65 Maico project isn't being abandoned however....it's just moving in a different direction. Because I won't be using the Metisse frame I've had to conjure up a frame that was 1: pre 65 legal, 2: reasonably light and good handling and 3: reasonably cheap. I've got a decent stash of aftermarket frames but they've all failed the cut for a variety of reasons. Then I remembered that I'd donated a Cotton Cobra frame to Yamaico Pete to build one of his El Cheapo specials a few months ago. After a chat with Pete it turned out that he didn't have any plans for the Cotton so it's being donated back to be the basis for the pre 65 project. One thing that really shines on the Cotton is its extreme light weight. The frame is made from Reynolds 531 tubing, the same as Cheney, Rickman and most of the period Brit frame builders used. I'll use Mexican Betor forks, Rickman Zundapp hubs/Borrani rims, BSA B44GP tank and alloy mudguards which will probably produce a bike even lighter that the Metisse would have been. After the initial disappointment that the Metisse was better suited to its original guise, I'm now pretty excited about the challenge of building the lightest open class pre 65'er I can. The dream of producing a  2 stroke pre 65 open class bike capable of winning the Nats is still alive 8).

As I wrote earlier, I've accumulated quite a stash of aftermarket framed projects so it might be a while before I get to the DT1 Metisse. Now that the Hindall RT2MX, Cheney RT1 and Fastrac 360 flat tracker are all but a couple of weeks from being finished, the next projects will be the upcoming Shell OW72 750 Yamaha flat tracker and the Maico project. But first.....I have to get my shed tidied up and back in order after the post illness frenzy of getting three bikes built. I won't be doing that again ::).

Below: DT1 Yamaha Metisse:
                                                                                  
                                                                                
                                                                                  
                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                  
« Last Edit: April 03, 2013, 12:00:34 pm by firko »
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Re: MAICO Pre-60 Iron Barrel Blizzard Project.
« Reply #11 on: April 03, 2013, 02:03:04 pm »
It's ironic that in my 25 years involvement in the vintage motocross/dirt track movement I've never seen an oval barreled Maico actually racing. Now we currently have four under construction for either the pre 65 or pre 60 VMX classes and one probable for dirt track down the line, (my little KR Motoball Special) which can only be good for the older classes.
'68 Yamaha DT1 enduro, '69 Yamaha 'DT1 from Hell' '69 DT1'Dunger from Hell, '69 Cheney Yamaha 360, 70 Maico 350 (2 off), '68 Hindall Ducati 250, Hindall RT2MX, Hindall YZ250a , Cycle Factory RT2MX flat tracker, Yamaha 1T250J, Maico 250 trials, '71, Boyd and Stellings TM400, Shell OW72,750 Yamaha

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Re: MAICO Pre-60 Iron Barrel Blizzard Project.
« Reply #12 on: April 03, 2013, 02:07:59 pm »
im sorta looking forward to the  finished bike builds as well  ;D

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« Reply #13 on: April 04, 2013, 12:29:32 pm »
Watto HVA sent me these great photos of his dad Bills 1960 Maico Blizzard 250 motocrosser...photographed when new in 1960. Bill didn't like the forks so he manufactured a set of leading link items similar in design to a Greeves of the period. The last three photos show the bike as it is today, still in Bill Watsons shed on the western side of the island. It looks to be in remarkably original condition although the frame appears to have been modified or changed at some stage in its life...Whatever has happened it looks good enough to just put the tank back on and enter the pre 60 class at this years Nats. ::). The bottom photo shows Bill in action (inside line) on the Maico at Herne Hill, WA circa 1960.
                                                                    
                                                                    
                                                                    
                                                                    
                                                                    
                                                                    
                                                                    
« Last Edit: April 04, 2013, 12:33:47 pm by firko »
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Re: MAICO Pre-60 Iron Barrel Blizzard Project.
« Reply #14 on: April 07, 2013, 09:30:00 pm »
Another shot of the little Maico ,found today at Bunburys Scrublands Park 50th Celebration.
Best is in the West !!