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Offline TooFastTim

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In 20 years time..
« on: December 22, 2012, 02:58:50 pm »
What with the end of the world being one big wet fart I shall make another prediction of doom: In 20 yrs VMX will be in trouble. OK here's why I think this: 20 years ago we began to see the first aluminum framed bikes and, I'd like you guys to discuss this, aluminum frames are not durable. They work harden, After 20-30 years of use, first in varying levels of competition and ultimately as field bikes the frames will be finished. So what bikes will we be riding in 20 years time?

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Re: In 20 years time..
« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2012, 03:03:25 pm »
Yeah, but in 20 years time you will be able to 'print' alloy frame at home...

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Won't be a problem...  ;D
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Re: In 20 years time..
« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2012, 04:54:38 pm »
in 20 years I won`t be riding bikes.

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Re: In 20 years time..
« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2012, 06:55:28 pm »
Electric motor, carbon fibre frame and computer controlled pneumatic suspension, plastic wheels and no need for brakes due to electric engine braking............the end of the world as we know it.
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Re: In 20 years time..
« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2012, 07:22:49 pm »
didnt poms have alloy M/x 2 stroke? to many pre xmas margareetas cant think of the name
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Re: In 20 years time..
« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2012, 07:27:00 pm »
Greeves Mikey.
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Re: In 20 years time..
« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2012, 07:56:56 pm »
I'd like you guys to discuss this, aluminum frames are not durable. They work harden, After 20-30 years of use, first in varying levels of competition and ultimately as field bikes the frames will be finished.
.....I don't think the frames will be your problem, it's the modern fourstroke engine that has longevity issues. ::)

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Re: In 20 years time..
« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2012, 09:34:21 pm »
...we will still be hearing Suzuki owners debating the eligibility of their swingarms. ::)
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Re: In 20 years time..
« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2012, 09:37:33 pm »
I will still be riding the ktm300, Cro mo frame, 2 stroke - maybe have a problem getting petrol..
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Re: In 20 years time..
« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2012, 09:43:56 pm »
Hopefully I'll still be riding my pre65 Dirttracker at 73, inspired by people like Col Metcher & Pancho Wally.
Or a zimmer frame.

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Re: In 20 years time..
« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2012, 11:28:38 pm »
In 20 years time we will really be struggling to find parts for our pre 85 bikes, so enjoy it while it lasts  ;D

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Re: In 20 years time..
« Reply #11 on: December 23, 2012, 09:56:37 am »
Imagin trying to explain to non Vmxers why we are trying to race 70 year old bikes (pre 60) 60 years (pre70) its hard enough now to explain why  we do it .
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Re: In 20 years time..
« Reply #12 on: December 23, 2012, 09:59:39 am »
In 20 years tie I'll be an even grumpier old man ! I love to think I'm still riding ! As for bikes there will be plenty of DR's, TTR.s Still going strong. Curly

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Re: In 20 years time..
« Reply #13 on: December 23, 2012, 10:24:02 am »
Gnnn.....I was trying to kick off a debate on the relative (un) merits of alu frames put into a VMX context. You mob go and hijack the thread. I'm going to sulk now...... 8)

I reckon alu frames suck. They're expensive, bulky and alu work hardens. I once saw a 15 yo Beta zero trials bike (first alu framed off road bike if you exclude Greeves) and it was rooted. Bits of the frame would crack and fall off with regularity. So how many alu framed bikes will be around in 20 years?

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Re: In 20 years time..
« Reply #14 on: December 23, 2012, 10:26:28 am »
I'd like you guys to discuss this, aluminum frames are not durable. They work harden, After 20-30 years of use, first in varying levels of competition and ultimately as field bikes the frames will be finished.
.....I don't think the frames will be your problem, it's the modern fourstroke engine that has longevity issues. ::)


Ain't that the truth and guys will still be bopping around on their standard bore XL/XR's
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