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Re: 2 stroke V's 4 Stroke- Lets thump it out??
« Reply #60 on: February 09, 2010, 08:25:14 am »


It's only because we don't have easy access to sheep!!!
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judging by how tight Aussie Rules players wear their shorts sheep are not your main interest ;D
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Re: 2 stroke V's 4 Stroke- Lets thump it out??
« Reply #61 on: February 09, 2010, 10:41:47 am »
The shorts have to be tight - obviously you don't know what its like to trip on your own tackle ;D
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Re: 2 stroke V's 4 Stroke- Lets thump it out??
« Reply #62 on: February 09, 2010, 11:44:03 am »
"2T OR 4T" What a load. I am an Australian! and when it comes to stroking, it will be as it has always been! horses for courses.

Yep certainly when it comes to stroking you Aussies are in a class of your own  ;D
Gees, what was I thinking? I should have seen that coming.
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Re: 2 stroke V's 4 Stroke- Lets thump it out??
« Reply #63 on: February 22, 2010, 11:06:33 pm »
Jesus only loves two strokes

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« Reply #64 on: February 23, 2010, 07:38:26 am »
Just caught up with my friend who bought the KTM450SX as mid life trail bike, he is not enjoying the experience, quite different from an XR600.  ::) If you came off 2 strokes easy to adapt to modern 4 stroke, but if you came off older 4 stroke it is probably a shock.
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Re: 2 stroke V's 4 Stroke- Lets thump it out??
« Reply #65 on: February 23, 2010, 07:56:34 am »
Just caught up with my friend who bought the KTM450SX as mid life trail bike, he is not enjoying the experience, quite different from an XR600.  ::) If you came off 2 strokes easy to adapt to modern 4 stroke, but if you came off older 4 stroke it is probably a shock.
I described my WR250F as a two stroke four stroke and as a four stroke two stroke 8) - meaning it had the characteristics of both depending on how you rode it ;); and I loved it 8).

If your friend is not enjoying his KTM450 I can only imagine he is trying to lug it along using the very bottom end power. It can be done but tell your friend to twitch his bum, move forward and 'give it the berries' ;D.

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Re: 2 stroke V's 4 Stroke- Lets thump it out??
« Reply #66 on: February 23, 2010, 08:05:16 am »
... KTM450SX as ... trail bike ....

That's most of his problem right there.
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Re: 2 stroke V's 4 Stroke- Lets thump it out??
« Reply #67 on: March 24, 2010, 04:15:19 pm »
Son knows his bike well and could tell something just wasn't right.
crf250  one stretched valve= new bits, piston and rings all for $650  :P  beat the $3500 bill  :P
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« Reply #68 on: June 08, 2010, 02:04:50 pm »
Just got off the phone to my mate with an 2010 KTM530,which he loves and has owned other 530,525 KTMs before this one and he just told me on his last ride smoke started billowing out big time out of the exhaust.
This bike has only done 20 hrs,3rd or 4th ride from memory and took it back to his dealer.
Apparently a ring tension problem on the 2010 models and covered under warranty.They replaced the piston as well.
All is good again.....for now ;D

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Re: 2 stroke V's 4 Stroke- Lets thump it out??
« Reply #69 on: July 07, 2010, 09:02:15 am »
I remember reading about the search for  Cubes  in Two strokes and the makings of the first  360cc husky engines. the 4 poke  guys didnt like it at all and kept raising the bar  as the much more agile smaller bore 2T  bikes were killing the 4T in open class racing.
 Two Stroke Tech is anything but at the  extent of its developement. the  calculations for  port  angle and designs have only been touched on . then there are the relatively new  power valves and associated  add on bits for  power delivery.
 The big Outboard  motor guys  have fuel injected 2T engines . Not that good for constantly  variable speed bike engines but  its only the beginning.
 Check the jetskis out for some damn finely designed 2T engines.
 Basic physics says an engine  will accellerate  faster  if it fires faster and at half the revolutions of a 4T to reach the power stroke that says a 2T will be first out of a corner everytime

Bump..the cost of the two stroke is by far better than 4 stroke.WE LOVE IT. ;D  Boy child(16yrs)is also stoked with the YZ.Don't mean to brag ,but he was running second on Sunday in the all in seniors class with the 4 stroke(21yrs) in first place.He was told to have more faith in his tread on the gravel track.He really has progressed with the 2 stroke in his racing-he say's its more fun  8)
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Re: 2 stroke V's 4 Stroke- Lets thump it out??
« Reply #70 on: July 07, 2010, 11:06:53 am »
Learn to ride on a 125 2/st.
Then swap to a 4/st and go fast. :)
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« Reply #71 on: July 07, 2010, 11:20:38 am »
Learn to ride on a 125 2/st.
Then swap to a 4/st and go fast. :)

True very true.
Based on first year apprenticeship wages the 2/st the way to go,at this point in time.
Mum and Dad ain't paying no more for dat 4/st  ;)  ;D cheers Mum
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« Reply #72 on: July 07, 2010, 01:22:43 pm »
Learn to ride on a 125 2/st.
Then swap to a 4/st and go fast. :)

In my case it was learn to ride on 2 strokes,buy a 4stroke 20 years later,learn that 4stokes are top heavy pigs that made me a worse rider and poorer for it,1 year later build a light 2stroke and realise that
i enjoy riding again ie fun and makes me look good....these are my opinions only but will NEVER go back to a 4 stroke again.

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Re: 2 stroke V's 4 Stroke- Lets thump it out??
« Reply #73 on: July 07, 2010, 01:32:53 pm »
Husaberg are going to release a couple of two stroke models next year.

http://www.husaberg.com/EVOLUTION-REVOLUTION.23.14.html?nodeID=1074&cHash=754978a5fa

They are just rebadged KTMs apparently!

Apologies if this has been posted somewhere already.

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« Reply #74 on: July 07, 2010, 01:34:19 pm »
You have a point Monaro but I was thinking of those new revvy, no power down low ones. :)
85/400WR,86/240WR,72/DKW125,Pe250c,TC90,TS100,XT250,86/SRX250,XR400r
Friend  struggling up a hill on a old bike at MTMee .http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjj6E2MP9xU.