Pre 78 Rule changes

[JohnnyO]

Good work Geoff, that sorts that issue out..

[maico police]

Gee. If I had a spare 20 odd G I could have a set on my 250 L....

[GMC]

Gee. If I had a spare 20 odd G I could have a set on my 250 L....

Where did you pull a figure of 20 G from?
They can be had for under $ 400.00

[maico police]

Yeah I know that's over the top. I do remember someone asking that much for a set however... :'(

[09.0]

Was the bike Belly rode really illegal though? Upside down WP forks were available in '84...

I'm not so sure that even WP had upside down forks in 1984. I don't recall the KTM's of the era having USD's and WP is KTM's fork as we all know.

The Honda Factory bikes didn't get upside down forks until 1987 so therefore Bells ride was illegal. And yes, the irony of it all is that Glen could win on a postie bike. Rules are rules. One in, all in. Regardless of whom you are or what you achieved in the past. I'm not labeling Glen as knowing his ride was illegal either.

Maybe the scrutineers will have an easier time of determining eligibility of a bike now that the Pre78 split has been proven a success. When all is said and done, it's a big ask of a scrutineer to be expected to know all the workings of all generations of bikes from the 60's to the 90's. Perhaps MA should look at providing a scrutineer for each era of bike at National level events to take some of the pressure off of the scrutineers?



 

gee mate you keep shooting from the hip. A few facts wouldnt go astray. This is how people are called cheats and it sticks, like it seems to have from last time Glens name was bought up. White power forks, legal. Wave disc, debatable but legal.

[bigk]

So the legal drum brake WP4054's are still legal when modified to take a disc wheel?
K

[Nathan S]

.... Glens name was bought up. White power forks, legal.

[JohnnyO]

.... Glens name was bought up. White power forks, legal.

No question about legality.. Lackey used the prototypes in '82 and you could buy them over the counter in '84!

[VMX Andrew]

Late last year a racer fronted up to the starting line right beside me on an 84 honda
just like Glens ride, soo bein the curious bastard that i am i started to have a quck
look over his bike before the gate drops.
Straight away i noticed that the disk and wheel were from a later model CR (disk had slots not holes and
the wheel was goldy coloured and i presume the forks were off the same model bike, just guessing
maybe 86 or 87. But do i give 2 hoots about using later model parts in the pre 85 class noo stinkin way
couldnt give a rats..
Im thinkin the reason he maybe using them is cause the originals might be stuffed  
Anyway it all boils down to one thing and that is we are not racing for sheep stations hey guys..  

[09.0]

.... Glens name was bought up. White power forks, legal.

Oops. Good one Nathan.

[DJVGXL]

Could you buy Woodstock bourbon in 1984? Maybe the stickers are not period correct.... ha ha

[VMX Andrew]

And you no what the latest mod is if you own a pre 89 bike thats doin the rounds.
Shoehorning a whole front end off a current model 2010-2012 and slippin it straight
into your CR KX 250-500
But thats opening up a whole new can of WORMS...

[Nathan S]

Late last year a racer fronted up to the starting line right beside me on an 84 honda
just like Glens ride, soo bein the curious bastard that i am i started to have a quck
look over his bike before the gate drops.
Straight away i noticed that the disk and wheel were from a later model CR (disk had slots not holes and
the wheel was goldy coloured and i presume the forks were off the same model bike, just guessing
maybe 86 or 87. But do i give 2 hoots about using later model parts in the pre 85 class noo stinkin way
couldnt give a rats..
Im thinkin the reason he maybe using them is cause the originals might be stuffed  
Anyway it all boils down to one thing and that is we are not racing for sheep stations hey guys..  

I totally agree with what you're saying. It's one of the good things about the RetroMX stuff - no rule-book warriors.

But because we're on the internet... :
Wheel rims are not "major components" and can be replaced with later parts.
Brake rotors are apparently the same.
'86/87/88/89 CR RWU cartridge forks are dead easy to pick compared to the earlier non-cartridge parts. I don't know enough about the differences between '84, 85 and 86 non-cartridge forks to comment there - maybe the '86 CR125 forks are a carry-over part?!

[albrid-3]

May be he just used later model parts to make the bike look trick, and thats the way he likes it, Its similiar to those people that put later era rims on pre 75 bikes and alloy wingarms to make the bike look trick and cool, gee don`t forget the hot later design pipes on 74 model husqvarna 250 mags, with 75 - 76 radial finned head, that wheren`t around in 74, and scrutineers let them through, WOW, its not what you know, its who you know, on race day.

[VMX247]

May be he just used later model parts to make the bike look trick, and thats the way he liked it, Its similiar to those people that put later era rims on pre 75 bikes and alloy wingarms to make the bike look trick and cool, gee don`t forget the hot later design pipes on 74 model husqvarna 250 mags, with 75 - 76 radial finned head, that wheren`t around in 74, and scrutineers let them through, WOW, its not what you know, its who you know, on race day.

  yep and its the National Titles where they'll get pinged.We cant expect every new member to know the very rule on every aspect of the era's at club level.just like the scrutineer at the Nats,some get past the loop hole.Take it or leave it too the Nats !