Pre 78 Rule changes

[oldfart]

I've put it down to cabin fever.

[albrid-3]

I  put it  down to the flu, that I am experiencing the last new days and getting worse. :'(

[211kawasaki]

This is not correct, I protested an illegal machine that happened to be in the race I was in. To do so I withdrew from the event - The below suggests that the protest was because I was in second - I was in 4th. After the protest I lost and then appealed and won. That was the correct result. The results that matter dont show me in them at all.
Can I say that after 20+ nationals as Chief Scruiteer you are going to miss a few; some guys are cunning and "select" their time to push through and I have pretty much seen it all however when you have to look at 100s of machines and make a call your never going to know everything and never going to get it 100% right every time.
Tanner


All this crap about protests and the like are bloody ridiculous. I was at Conondale in '09 and even the Chief Eligibility Scrutineer put in a protest because he was beaten to 2nd place! Fair enough the protest was correct as far as I understand but how does a bike that passes scrutineering end up being not eligible? I think this whole protest thing is getting out of hand.....and all for a $5 trophie! Yet not a single soul said anything about Glen Bell's '84 CR500 having upside down forks! WTF!
Even the protagonists on here have openly agreed that an extra inch of travel isn't going to make a bike/rider go that much faster. In many cases, it will hinder their cause.
Surely we (as a bunch of like minded riders) should be making things easy to get bums on seats. By asking everyone to go to the rule book everytime they buy a new bike is just plain ridiculous in my view. If the bike is stock and had the extra inch back in the day, so be it. No one complained or protested back then, they just raced and got on with it. Is it going to get the point where riders/owners of bikes are going to have to pull their bikes apart to prove they don't have modern valving or damping rods in their forks? Disassemble engines to prove they don't have later model gearboxes? I bet the guys at front have the best of everything inside their forks, shocks and motors.....
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[worms]

more power to those that are prepared to uphold the integrity of the sport at a national level. Dont second guess yourself Dave for those who cant be bothered to display the courage to question the eligability of bikes, the rules and other attempts at flaunting them.

Cheers Worms

[Curly3]

Number 1 with a bullet.
C'mon, 13 pages in one week, really?
You guy's need to take up Dirt Track, 99% of the issues raised aren't an issue.
That was a generalization because I don't have the time or the patience to read all 13 pages.
VMX has a lot to answere for I reckon.

[JohnnyO]

Number 1 with a bullet.
C'mon, 13 pages in one week, really?
You guy's need to take up Dirt Track, 99% of the issues raised aren't an issue.
That was a generalization because I don't have the time or the patience to read all 13 pages.
VMX has a lot to answere for I reckon.

Speaking of dirt track.. I've never come across anything more ridiculous than the protest flag they now use at modern dirt tracks. Every couple of races some spoilt sook raises the protest flag at the end of the race cos he didn't like being beaten! What a load of shit! They need to watch a couple of AMA motocross races and harden up.

[JAP 454]

The purple flag is for ALL Junior disciplines

[JohnnyO]

The purple flag is for ALL Junior disciplines

Nice way to bring the Juniors up...

[firko]

Speaking of dirt track.. I've never come across anything more ridiculous than the protest flag they now use at modern dirt tracks. Every couple of races some spoilt sook raises the protest flag at the end of the race cos he didn't like being beaten! What a load of shit! They need to watch a couple of AMA motocross races and harden up.

I agree, it teaches the spoiled little pricks and their showbiz mums the easy way to get a trophy. They really do need to harden up.

[JAP 454]

Firko, since 1994 ,Ea and I have been the Starter, Announcer,Stewards, Clerks of Course or the Race Sec at a shitload of DT meetings at 5 different tracks and have never seen the Junior purple protest flag used at all.
Foss

[Curly3]

Not that I wanted to get involved in this shitfight but surely the purple flag is also applicable to Junior MX?I alway's thought the flags were the same across all disciplines, there are more protests in Speedway than any other type of motorcycle racing, that's because any single illegal action can & most often does have an outcome on a race result, DT is pretty much the same, in MX you have more time to recover.
Does that answere the question.
I agree it isn't really teaching the kid's much but they rarely know the rules, but MUM & DAD surely do and I would say that 90% of the time that's who would be protesting.

[JAP 454]

I agree it isn't really teaching the kid's much but they rarely know the rules, but MUM & DAD surely do and I would say that 90% of the time that's who would be protesting.

Yep !!

[JohnnyO]

I was at some dirt track meetings at Hatchers before it closed and the purple flag was up all the time.
There is no such thing as a purple flag in mx and i can't remember seeing a protest for years. A bit of bar banging is pretty normal in motocross but the dirt track juniors went for the flag every time there was a good close race.

[Curly3]

Doesn't mean there all like that.

[JohnnyO]

Doesn't mean there all like that.

I'd like to think they aren't..