VIPER: Take 2

[bigk]

I just had an idea concerning the flaggies emailed to me, it goes something like this:
Run the race program in quarters (like football) and era's, lets say pre'78 & evo, then pre'85 & pre '90.
1st quater the pre'85/pre'90 riders flag for the pre'78/evo, then vice versa, then do it all again. Sounds fair and could work, needs to be looked at. There are heaps of idea's and observations from this person (a VIPER rider) and it's good input. Don't be shy, keep the ideas coming.
K

[John Orchard]

Some good idea's there, I agree with combining classes by engine size (eg: Pre 78 125, Evo 125 & Pre 90 125).

I've been drawing up some idea's for a Vet's Championship, in that I was thinking that 'over 30' and 'over 40' could have all their races in the morning or Saturday and 'over 50' and 'over 60' could have all their races in the arvo or on Sunday, the day or half-day that you're not racing you are working as an official; whether it's flag-marshal, start-gate, commentator or scruntineer.

[paul]

what about prize money instead of trophys

[John Orchard]

I am also the President of Mitchell Recreation Motorcycle Club (the old Broadford Motorcycle Club), I send out an email to all financial & unfinacial members each week, apart from keep current members being updated with relevent stuff, it also keeps the old members interested and will hopefully bring them back.

[gdr]

K what happens if you ride in evo and pre85

[BAHNZY]

Mandate timing & lap scoring transponders

[John Orchard]

K what happens if you ride in evo and pre85

Maybe they could score points in both classes?..... makes sense.

You got any idea's on how classes can be combined without anyone missing out on a ride?

Personally I think "ten starters in the class or no-go", if you only have five 'Pre 75's' then they will have to run with 'Pre 85' or Evo.

This is a big problem in Victorian roadracing at the moment; giving a trophy for winning the BEARS (British, European & American) class when only one bike shows.

[gdr]

I just had an idea concerning the flaggies emailed to me, it goes something like this:
Run the race program in quarters (like football) and era's, lets say pre'78 & evo, then pre'85 & pre '90.
1st quater the pre'85/pre'90 riders flag for the pre'78/evo, then vice versa, then do it all again. Sounds fair and could work, needs to be looked at. There are heaps of idea's and observations from this person (a VIPER rider) and it's good input. Don't be shy, keep the ideas coming.
K
I think i have been misunderstood.What happens if you ride evo and pre85?

[BAHNZY]

You got any idea's on how classes can be combined without anyone missing out on a ride?

Not possible when you have a legacy group of riders. The most important thing to be aware of is that you do it for the majority of the riding group, not the minority, which has been the case in recent years.

[marshallmech]

Viper members in 2010 103 2011 78 according to the member data base
I tryed to do a newsletter and emailed it out but in the end with all other things just didnt have the time.
I agree a newsletter is a great idea but you need a dedicated person to produce it and we just didnt have the manpower.

Andy

[motomaniac]

Seeing that Ross has taken his bat & ball & gone home just when the coversation was getting constructive, lets have another go. Anyone with some constructive idea's on how to improve the VIPER series & bring it back to the days when 120 riders was normal, post them here, send me a PM or email [email protected] and I will compile them and get them to the relevant people. I have already voiced what I think are the main issues, but to take a different approach here's a few more ways to help IMO, there's more than one way to skin a cat, and we all agree the cat needs skinning. On a different note, I believe VIPER is running without a president at the moment, can anyone confirm this? If so, I think it's a mistake as every ship needs a captain. A president/go to person is vital if things are to improve. Now some ideas:
K

Good job Mick. One question .Who are the relevant people? and another one :- what are they planning and are they aware and involved in this discussion?

I would be happy if you were the president but I understand if you declined. Great that you have reopened the lines of communication.

[BEARVMX]

Please be advised that Bear has made a decision and officially retires from racing VMX.  My body no longer permits me to race.  After 17 years of viper/vmx, I now have to say enough is enough.  Furthermore, my work commitments to running the number 1 suzuki dealership in Victoria has taken all my energy. Tina & I formally resign from the Viper Committee (that only barely exists as of now).  As of tonight, due to heavy work commitments on both our behalfs we no longer have the time to spend organising our work with Viper. It is evident from all of the feedback and opinions that the task to overhaul Viper is extensive and will require some time and dedication to ensure its future existence.  It's time that someone else takes over the running of Viper, ie admin, race numbers, organising of tracks, trophies etc etc.  A big thanks to all that have helped us in the past especially Dawn & Ken for their input.  It is with great sadness that I have had to make this decision.  I will have a ride at the HBBB and possibly do the social side of things (non competitive).  This is Bear, over and out.

[bigk]

GDR: I don't know at this stage, it's just one idea put forward, the best idea for the majority should be adopted.
Brent: I only really know of one or two "relevant" people and as of this moment, none has had an input. I'm getting some direct emails with some really good ideas, but until a formal comittee is formed, it's probably all for nothing. Who to pass them on to is a very good question. A comittee needs to be formed starting with a president to steer the ship and tasks allocated to spread the load, rather than overloading a few people with everything. VIPER is a register I believe rather than a club, is this correct? I know how clubs run and been involved in many, do registers run differently? It needs to happen now or it will soon be too late. Can someone from the current VIPER organisation please respond and have some input. Tell us how we can be involved and help. I'll be off the air a bit for the next few days, but will check in when I can.
Cheers,
K

[maico police]

I was going to be on the committee for next year but after FDR's outstanding comment that I shouldn't, well then I wont.
I'm off to do moderns this year where you don't get a medal for coming last (and they don't spend all their time moaning about the tracks)

I'll give you my trophies k seeing as how he wants 'em so much.......


Fu@king tossers

[2 shocks]

After many years of being involved with Viper of which we have had some wonderful times with some great people, but the time has come to let the people with the new ideas take over.  

Thanks for the memories.

Ken & Dawn Baker