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Offline firko

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Re: Metisse selection
« Reply #45 on: June 15, 2012, 10:38:21 am »
How's this for a cheap little Rickman? It's in California too, making the shipping to Oz a whole lot easier.
                     
                     

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Ad # 3196351   June 13, 2012
1972 Rickman Zundapp 100/125 Frame.

This frame has been left to rot and time is winning. Thi little frame needs a home. Tag #3/72 - 4168z

Asking price is $75 if interested please call Lance at 661-317-2371

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Re: Metisse selection
« Reply #46 on: June 15, 2012, 02:56:44 pm »
can you use these mitesse and rickman frames in pre 70 ??
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Re: Metisse selection
« Reply #47 on: June 15, 2012, 05:01:28 pm »
You can use certain Rickman Metisse frames but not the Zundapp or Montesa versions. like the one pictured.
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Re: Metisse selection
« Reply #48 on: June 15, 2012, 11:44:28 pm »
Firko, there may not be a swing arm with this frame, do you know if the Rickman Montesa one fits?
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Re: Metisse selection
« Reply #49 on: June 16, 2012, 12:59:15 pm »
Not too sure Monte but there's a couple for sale on eBay right now. Or...the bloke selling the Zundapp frame also has a basket case earlyMonty version for sale which looks almost beyond repair. Ask him if the swingarm measures up and if it does buy both frames but ask him to remove the swingarm from the basketcase Monty version and include it with the Zundapp. It's a thought ;D   http://www.vintagemx.us/cgi-bin/largephoto.cgi?C=QM2mAYF5Edh9K9TM

http://www.ebay.com/itm/AHRMA-1972-Rickman-Zundapp-125cc-MX-SWING-ARM-/230405501777?hash=item35a53cf351&item=230405501777&pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1972-ZUNDAPP-125-RICKMAN-SWINGARM-/230729083966?hash=item35b8866c3e&item=230729083966&pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr
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Re: Metisse selection
« Reply #50 on: June 19, 2012, 10:59:33 am »
Here's yet another Micro Metisse engine swap bike, this one fitted with a DT1 Yamaha motor. You couldn't buy a roller and build it yourself for twice the asking price. It's the desirable 1" tubing '73/74 model too. The discs would have to go but the restis already up and running.


Rickman framed with a 1973 Yamaha 250 engine.  Originally housed a Penton.  Yamaha engine completely rebuilt, New body paint, bars, grips, and rear tire.  Unique bike with front and rear disc brakes.
 $900  Would considertrade for small cc titled street or enduro bike.
Bob 231-750-5054 days or 21-893-9039 evenings and weekends.
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Re: Metisse selection
« Reply #51 on: June 19, 2012, 12:36:38 pm »
Wow!that's cheap,interesting choice of brakes.Also a nice Montesa version on Mark's for $1600.
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Re: Metisse selection
« Reply #52 on: June 19, 2012, 01:41:50 pm »

http://www.vintagemx.us/cgi-bin/largephoto.cgi?C=EE2vQD4HcTUuKWt8
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Ad # 3196521   June 17, 2012
This is a 1974 Rickman VB250. It has Progessive shocks, tires are in good condition, fenders, side panels are original. Runs good. Asking $1.600

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Re: Metisse selection
« Reply #53 on: June 19, 2012, 02:12:58 pm »
That dt1 sold cause i emailed the guy.  but my question is regarding the frames, when are they first made ? cause surely its the concept rather then the production date.

NEw rules say any frame so long as it period empathetic, so unless its got a third wheel, surely if the lines are the same ish.... you can use them.

So how do you find out what frames are pre 70 construction so you can follow them on. ?  im a noob on the A/M motorcross stuff.  Nad to my eye they prity much look the same ba a few changes to tank mounts etc.

please school me up on these frame someone
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Re: Metisse selection
« Reply #54 on: June 19, 2012, 02:24:20 pm »
Quote from: Freakshow on June 19, 2012, 02:12:58 pm
That dt1 sold cause i emailed the guy.  but my question is regarding the frames, when are they first made ? cause surely its the concept rather then the production date.

Dammit I was going to call the seller when I got home.  That looked like a ripper deal to me.

Quote from: Freakshow on June 19, 2012, 02:12:58 pm
NEw rules say any frame so long as it period empathetic, so unless its got a third wheel, surely if the lines are the same ish.... you can use them.

Hey maybe there's hope for my TM frame after all  ;D
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Re: Metisse selection
« Reply #55 on: June 19, 2012, 03:03:37 pm »
The Rickman Zundapp and Montesa Micro Metisse frames have very little in common with the pre 70 legal MK4 Metisse and the pre 65 MK3, 3a and Petite frames are different again. I questioned Dave Tanner as to whether a Mk4 Metisse from 1968 would be legal under the new pre 65 frame interpretation and he replied with a definite NO. So, if the similar to a Mk3, Mk 4 is a no-no, the very different Rickman Zundapp and Montesa Micro's would be a definite no-no too.

Trust me Freaky, if I could get my Maico squarie powered Micro Metisse into my beloved pre 70 class I'd be bloody well doing it because I have a sneaking feeling that it's going to be a ripper of a bike. Unfortunately as the current rules stand, I'm building it purely as a Classic Dirt/HBBB fun bike and occasional pre 75 racer.
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Re: Metisse selection
« Reply #56 on: June 19, 2012, 04:19:46 pm »
OK so wise me up, if i want a PRe 70 frame what am i looking for ? any metisee frame thats pre MK 5 and are they stamped as such or is it just a date clue on a headset plate ?

and casue im stupid can i ask the obvious.  is a Rickman metisse the same frame as a metisse, or is that a licening thing from the rickman or dunstall factorys
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Re: Metisse selection
« Reply #57 on: June 19, 2012, 05:30:59 pm »
Your giving me a headache Kerry.....just buy a CeeZee sidepiper and ride it....you've got too many projects now allready.....or a CR400 Husky....you could do your Steve McQueen impersonation.
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Re: Metisse selection
« Reply #58 on: June 19, 2012, 06:30:04 pm »
Quote from: Freakshow on June 19, 2012, 04:19:46 pm

and casue im stupid can i ask the obvious.  is a Rickman metisse the same frame as a metisse, or is that a licening thing from the rickman or dunstall factorys
The original makers of the metisse are the Rickman brothers so any bike with Rickman in the name should be a period frame
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Re: Metisse selection
« Reply #59 on: June 19, 2012, 08:08:20 pm »
i could be wrong but i thought that
all the micro eg montesa zundap sachs b50 ect are pre75
all the triumph and other english motored frames that are mk3 are pre65
bultaco frames are pre 70
firko pls explain
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