Metisse selection

[firko]

That alloy tank on 31 is my pick of the pack

That bike's owned by Klub Kevlar good 'ol boy Edgar Phipps. It's one of three he owns, the others are a pre unit Mk3 500 Triumph and a Triumph 650 unit Mk3a.

I like the black ESO 

Another Klub Kevlar good 'ol boy.....Alan Jones infamous Black Betty unit ESO. Al's also got a MK4 Weslake/B44 and Ugly Betty, the little purple SL125 Honda powered Micro Metisse (formerly a Zundapp)

Yeah when is Black Hinemoa turning up in Torpo Bill.

That's one sweet little Metisse Bill, I look forward to seeing it.

Firko you bastard, youve eally got me thinking now!!  those bully's look so good, if i can't find a zundapp that would be the way I go.  they look so right!!! 
Barry

Barry, I reckon the Zundapp's probably a lost cause...you'll be so much happier with something a tad bigger in the cradle. I had intended on fitting the Maico square barrel 250 to mine but it's just a smidgey too long and I don't want to have to modify the cases so in a drastic but fun change in direction I'm now fitting a Cooper (Moto Islo) 250 which I reckon would be the worlds only Cooper Metisse  Damn I love this shit
Incidentally those Bultaco Petite Metisses are a different frame to that of the Zundapp Micro Metisse although the Bully engine fits in both. The Rickman Montesa Dave talks of is a different frame again, a single downtube frame that suits sideport engines like VMX60's CZ or a well known VMX media mogul's proposed TM400 powered unit.

I like the DT-1 

Jay I originally purchased my Zundapp Metisse frame to build a DT1 powered bike identical to the British Racing Green bike you're referring to but when I stuck the Maico engine in there for a bit of a beer fueled joke, the Dr Frankenstein gene in my DNA erupted and now this little bike is going to be a class legal but politically incorrect little Moto Islo Metisse fun bike that will also act as a metaphorically erect middle digit to the Metisse snobs.

[Freakshow]

HOW easily does the DT1 fit in the Zundapp 125 mettisse frame ?

[Marc.com]

Can't be Hinemoa Marc, the bore is only 84mm 

You just need a bigger rod kit to go with the oversize mate 

Anyway looking forward to getting my twin together so Bill and I can have a session

[EML]

You and Bill and Your 'Twin' sounds like a threesome I don't want to see!!!!

[tony27]

 

[flower pot racing]

#216 is the best Metisse you will ever see.  The Late Great Alan Brown built that bike and every detail on it is crafted engineering brilliance.  Dave Bell does the riding and always leads from the front.

A Starmaker will go in the Zundapp frame with very little effort, just cut the cradle where the gearbox drops below the line.  An XL250 will also go in there, plus countless others.  There are quite a few 250 Beezas beeing built using this frame and they can be made to go stupidly fast.

Some those bikes look aweful (in my opionion).  I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder and that is half the fun of building your special and doing it your way.  But please tell me what was the mandoing when he fitted the exhaust to that Goldie?  My eyes hurt.

[firko]

This was the bargain Metisse of the year....$1800 us for a very clean looking Mk4 500 Triumph Metisse. It wouldn't have cost much at all to get it back in proper Metisse livery and on the track OR, it'd be the perfect little Cafe racer/Street tracker as is.....albeit with a tank that fits properly!
I'm going to have to check out Craig List more often. 

http://throttleyard.com/2011/12/01/1970-rickman-triumph-500-httptampa-craigslist-orgpnlmcy2714269224-html/

[AL161]

Can any of you blokes answer what is probably a dumb question about Metisse frame kits? Are all Mk3 kits the same? That is, are different motor/gearbox cobinations fitted using different engine plates or are specific engine mounts welded to the frame for the selected engine/gearbox? In other words ... if I were to order a frame for, say a B40, would i be able to install a Jawa engine and Norton gearbox at a later date without mucking up the nickel coating?

[firko]

Can any of you blokes answer what is probably a dumb question about Metisse frame kits? Are all Mk3 kits the same?

In a nutshell Rodger....No. In the case you mentioned, the Mk3A B40 kit would be for small unit construction engines (B40/44/50,T100R) whilst the Jawa speedway engine / Norton box combo would require a larger frame cradle for the more bulky pre unit engine/ box and associated engine plates. I found from experience with my own MK4 500 Triumph Metisse that the bigger 650 unit engine wouldn't fit. I know that the Mk4 frame is physically smaller than the Mk3a so perhaps that particular 500-650 jump would work on a Mk3a. Alan Jones Black Betty unit ESO Metisse frame was custom made (along with Dean Rowe's Red Betty) because the engine wouldn't fit in any of the existing jigged frames.
That's my simplified take on it but I'm sure Flower Pot Ben, Jikov  or some of our other forum Rickman experts can enlarge on my ramblings.

[ola_martin]

For Firko:

[Stan S]

Gee ola, I really like the look of that. is it for sale?

Stan.

[ola_martin]

Yes it is, but it's not mine, it's french, ad is here: http://www.leguidevert.com/_V6/annonce.php?numero=32318&titre=MAICO-360--1965

[firko]

For Firko:

Thanks Martin, I missed this while I was away. What a cool little bike, obviously built using a Bultaco Petite Metisse or Bultaco M11 roller and a 250 alloy oval Maico motor. For 6000 euros the frame would want to be a genuine Rickman item and not one of those water pipe Bultaco M11 fatigue magnets.

Seein it makes me anxious to get back into my own little Maico Metisse project....as soon as my Yamaha side track is completed .

[shortshifter]

Really nice victor Metisse blue on US ebay at moment.Do you know the bike Firko???

[firko]

I spotted it too Paul...a good price too. I'm not familiar with the bike but it's pretty similar to Jonesy's except for Alan's having the Weslake conversion. Maybe Tahitian Red might know a bit about it.

It looks like there's a bidding war going on between two or three bidders. There's a good chance it may end up here in Oz.