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Offline colmoody

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Re: the new look VMX rule book
« Reply #120 on: September 22, 2011, 09:37:08 pm »
Pretty hard to argue with GD66 on that one.

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Re: the new look VMX rule book
« Reply #121 on: September 22, 2011, 09:46:37 pm »
That's pretty much it in a nutshell.

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Re: the new look VMX rule book
« Reply #122 on: September 22, 2011, 09:51:49 pm »
We put a lot of time into selecting the right year cutoffs back in the late 80's and I think we've got it pretty right. Even Evo makes more sense to me as the years move along. At the time I'd have preferred a pre '80 class (there was no pre '78 class at that stage) instead of Evo but it's worked out pretty well in the end. If it ain't broke, don't fix it ;).
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Re: the new look VMX rule book
« Reply #123 on: September 22, 2011, 10:19:05 pm »
At last !! FFS lads, the main issue in historic roadracing is well-intentioned blokes building machines that to them represent their past, or a favourite era...then turning up, discovering they're outside the parameters of the MA rulebook, packing the sh*ts and disappearing, to never be seen again.

You Aussie are always throwing your toys in the corner, bunch of bloody shirt lifters.... first rule of NZ Historic Racing is if it is made in Japan it is not eligible  ;D ;D ;D ;D .... once you get that out of the way then it is pre 63 and class is decided on what performance mods you have made and if you can afford a Manx
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Re: the new look VMX rule book
« Reply #124 on: September 22, 2011, 11:20:25 pm »
Changing to pre '79 wouldn't be a smart idea.. The '78 CR250RZ will stomp the rest of the field with it's 12'' of suspension and rocketship engine, it's one of the best Evo bikes around.
Leave it like it is.. no matter what you do some models will suffer.

RZ is 79?

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Re: the new look VMX rule book
« Reply #125 on: September 22, 2011, 11:56:39 pm »

You Aussie are always throwing your toys in the corner, bunch of bloody shirt lifters.... first rule of NZ Historic Racing is if it is made in Japan it is not eligible  ;D ;D ;D ;D .... once you get that out of the way then it is pre 63 and class is decided on what performance mods you have made and if you can afford a Manx

Only problem with the NZCMRR "No Jap Crap" rule Marc, is when they run out of ideas/money every few years, and make an exception to top the coffers up at their  annual Pukekohe festival : I refer to the Post-Classic display they ran a few years ago that featured the Robert Holden-ridden Plastic Fantastic Roberts Suzukis, the Croz XR69, a couple of TZ750s, Mike Pero's TZ350 etc : the Virgil Ehlings-owned ex-Hailwood Lyster-framed 500 Honda on another occasion : the 125cc Yamaha V4 owned by Ferri Brouwer and ridden by Hugh Anderson couple of years back, and so on : if you're a racer with a Japper, piss off...but if you're a legend with a Japper, enter and sign in please.... ::)...pretty ironic when you consider that founder NZCMRR member Hugh Anderson won four world titles and 25 Grands Prix on SUZUKI, and Ken McIntosh made a career and a breadline based on the success of his Rodger Freeth-ridden McIntosh SUZUKI... ::)
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Re: the new look VMX rule book
« Reply #126 on: September 23, 2011, 04:58:34 am »
Doc, youth was on Young Adrians side ( 18 YO  from memory ) and yes he was quick.   does he still ride ?????

Stew, yes he still rides, has 2 RM-Z's now and he moved to Karratha, West Australia. If you remember he didn't fair so well in the pre'78 races as he was riding a slightly sub-standard RM125S. When he was put on Wayne's bike, which I had raced, at the end of the day he blitzed. The races were very short, to me it wasn't so much youth being on his side but more-so it was his home track and he applied the modern style of riding to the old bikes, it worked perfectly. Reckons he'd love to do another vintage event ;)

 
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Re: the new look VMX rule book
« Reply #127 on: September 23, 2011, 07:37:10 am »

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Re: the new look VMX rule book
« Reply #128 on: September 23, 2011, 08:58:01 am »
CR250R/RZ essentially the same and the major reason why it shouldn't be pre79 or 80 - you could then call it the CR250 class.

Freaky - thats it mate - we were all wrong, you were always right and now we have come around  ;D  Luv your work!
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Re: the new look VMX rule book
« Reply #129 on: September 23, 2011, 09:38:02 am »
At last !! FFS lads, the main issue in historic roadracing is well-intentioned blokes building machines that to them represent their past, or a favourite era...then turning up, discovering they're outside the parameters of the MA rulebook, packing the sh*ts and disappearing, to never be seen again.
The vmx guidelines are not only pretty simple and straight-forward, but have been tuned by patient, intelligent men : bottom line is, if you wanna race vmx, study the rulebook first, THEN AND ONLY THEN make your decisions about what you wanna race...
And go your hardest... :)

I hate it when glen says something I actually have to agree with!!!  damn
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Re: the new look VMX rule book
« Reply #130 on: September 23, 2011, 10:17:00 am »

RZ is 79?

'78/'79


CR-RZ is78 build, 79 model. It would not be eligible for a pre-79 class.
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Re: the new look VMX rule book
« Reply #131 on: September 23, 2011, 10:39:37 am »
CR250R/RZ essentially the same and the major reason why it shouldn't be pre79 or 80 - you could then call it the CR250 class.

Freaky - thats it mate - we were all wrong, you were always right and now we have come around  ;D  Luv your work!

See and i knew you too would come around.......  ps the clubman awards looking prity good on the wall, i can even tell if its going to rain !
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Re: the new look VMX rule book
« Reply #132 on: September 23, 2011, 02:52:49 pm »
you deserved it buddy - some mighty good competition for the award also I must admit.
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