Watta Ya Reckon Lozza

[Mick D]

I know its hard to hear things when you are traveling at light speed with a helmet on.

But did it rattle more when it was under load, acceleration up hills? or did it rattle just as much when you were of the gas, closed throttle?

[DR]

They don't call it death rattles for nothing. No offence to anyone as some may not know what it sounds like but if you can't hear detonation then you'd have to stone deaf even under full noise with ear plugs and helmet you can't miss it nor could anyone standing trackside within any sort of earshot. I've seen quite a few smaller capacity engines with exactly the symptoms as shown and whilst I'm not saying there isn't something foreign I still say main problem in the first instance is detonation. I'll zip it now and wait for the verdict

[Mick D]

No shit, Sherlock. But there is a difference. Was the bulk of the noise when on the gas or off it?

And there is such a thing as dignity and grace when not trying to offend.

Noise would have started at the beginning of its demise. If the noise was just as great when off load and without the song of the exhaust, it definitely started mechanical intrusion or failure.

If basically the bulk of the noise started when under the load of acceleration only, well then it definitely started as a detonation problem.

I was politely trying to pick Turtles mind for the facts.

[VMX247]

The fragments are bits and pieces of molten metal from the piston crown and cylinder head.

Yes 17 yr old said the top disintergrates.Too lean  :'(
I'm still with mx250 some other item.

I know its hard to hear things when you are traveling at light speed with a helmet on.

Don't hear a thing-its all in the eye's     
cheers A

[VMX247]

Was the noise when on the gas or off it?

It took 17yr old three laps to work out "it aint right" and three pistons later to get it all good.
cheers A

a snippet found from superhunky;
Turning and roosting in the widening gyre
The rider cannot hear the camshaft chain;
Things fall apart; the crankshaft cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The oil-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of inexpensive repair is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst mechanics
are full of passionate intensity, and drunk. 

[Mick D]

Was the noise when on the gas or off it?

while the worst mechanics
are full of passionate intensity, and drunk. 

Well I haven't been drinking, so I can't be Drunk.

Passionate,,,,always.

Half of this working life as an engine builder all around Oz, from formula Cos-worth two stroke outboard blocks and up to engines larger that most peoples bedrooms with never a failure and optimum log bog entries. But don't forget all the tech of those space shuttles and one only lasted seven seconds.
Well I have lasted three days. Maybe Its time to get three largies instead. Yeap, thats whats wrong with it, signing out.

[JohnnyO]

I doubt that thing blew up through detonation, the piston and cylinder head are embedded with little pieces of steel not alluminium.

[Turtle.Inc]

Have a look at piston pin C clip is there a piece missing ??     Bet 2 f

Nah but i have found out so will upload a few pics, still taking bets MX250

I Reckon I may not have to race against the big girl on the weekend .

I wasn't talking about his bikes Snowy

You guys crack me up dudes.
17 year olds "A" they think they know everything but how often are they actually right

They don't call it death rattles for nothing. No offence to anyone as some may not know what it sounds like but if you can't hear detonation then you'd have to stone deaf even under full noise with ear plugs and helmet you can't miss it nor could anyone standing trackside within any sort of earshot. I've seen quite a few smaller capacity engines with exactly the symptoms as shown and whilst I'm not saying there isn't something foreign I still say main problem in the first instance is detonation. I'll zip it now and wait for the verdict

Doc I am profoundly deaf in the high end scale but no indication prior to nipping up, death rattles I am familiar with after all it is a maico

[VMX247]

17 year olds "A" they think they know everything but how often are they actually right
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They are like a Lotto tickets.You just never know,if they will hit the jackpot     
cheers

[Turtle.Inc]

Johnny O closely followed by Head By a short neck to Hoony for the betting man

Love the repies though, Tamika big end kit fitted approx 12 months ago bit sus, wont be going down that path again


Now ya seen em




Now ya dont


Forgot to add running at 33:1 Maxima 927 which has always been good thing

[Lozza]

I think me and Hoony will have to split that big novelty cheque   More importantly why has the cage gone south ?

[Turtle.Inc]

I think me and Hoony will have to split that big novelty cheque   More importantly why has the cage gone south ?

I was hoping someone could tell me

[Nathan S]

I think me and Hoony will have to split that big novelty cheque   More importantly why has the cage gone south ?

Oi - thirds, I think! 

[Lozza]

I was hoping someone could tell me

It's right there, or rather what's not there. 'Outskips' should have to answer some hard questions.


Nathan 1/3 of some IOU's is still nuffin

[GD66]

Graham picked it, too. We're all winners here !! 





Oh.....sorry about your bike, Turtle... :'(