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« Reply #150 on: March 19, 2011, 06:28:33 pm »
The moon affects the tides, thats accepted so how is it not accepted that it affects the Earths solids masses in the similar fashion?

Ah but remember that the earths crust is a thin layer floating on a liquid.

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« Reply #151 on: March 19, 2011, 06:32:54 pm »
 
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The moon affects the tides, thats accepted so how is it not accepted that it affects the Earths solids masses in the similar fashion?
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Bit of sarcasim on my behalf-sorry..I'm all for the moon and her movements- half my pantry cupboard is full of presevatives from our vegie garden and orchard thanks to the Moon. Its all a balance  8)
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Alls cool Alison. I was questioning all these commentators who says its all B.S even though certain astro and geophysicists warned of the possiblity of what happened in Japan , very accurately.

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« Reply #152 on: March 19, 2011, 08:05:09 pm »
Romantics, werewolves and other moon-gazers are in for a treat this weekend as they witness the biggest full moon seen in nearly 20 years.
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« Reply #153 on: March 19, 2011, 09:13:18 pm »
The moon affects the tides, thats accepted so how is it not accepted that it affects the Earths solids masses in the similar fashion?

Ah but remember that the earths crust is a thin layer floating on a liquid.

Exactly.


The moon theory seems feasible to me too.
That’s not to say that the moon causes this shit but if the moons pull causes our tides and this faze of the moon being closer is supposed to be creating higher tides, even if only 1 % higher then it could also have an effect on the earths crust.
While it won’t cause an earthquake in itself, but in an area where these inner plates have built up overdue stress it could be the final straw for the big Heave -Ho.
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« Reply #154 on: March 19, 2011, 09:32:39 pm »
Romantics, werewolves and other moon-gazers are in for a treat this weekend as they witness the biggest full moon seen in nearly 20 years.


Ummmm... correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't that mean there was a full moon this size or bigger about 20 years ago.  From memory the world didn't end that time either  ::) ::)
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« Reply #155 on: March 19, 2011, 09:56:32 pm »
Romantics, werewolves and other moon-gazers are in for a treat this weekend as they witness the biggest full moon seen in nearly 20 years.
Ummmm... correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't that mean there was a full moon this size or bigger about 20 years ago.  From memory the world didn't end that time either  ::) ::)

oh heck yes... it was someone else's theory on the earths moves..we've talked about everything else,but the moon  ;D
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« Reply #157 on: March 22, 2011, 08:04:37 pm »
Rehashing this thread, see below. What gets me is the maximum dose for a US radiation worker (50 microSv). In Aus it's 18 microSv. For a better look see: http://xkcd.com/radiation/

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« Reply #158 on: March 22, 2011, 08:19:06 pm »
Yes well the Japanese have a little more than daily dose to deal with. They have raised their exposure limit accordingly , but seem to be working in +/- 300  MicroSv range, when it gets above that they are out of there.

As I mentioned earlier however, never under estimate the Japanese capacity for self sacrifice, they know they are getting damaging amounts of radiation but the courageous little bastards are still going in.... with their union leaders out front I might add. 

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« Reply #159 on: March 22, 2011, 08:49:44 pm »
300 uSv/h is a helluva dose rate Marc. 24 hours and you have a (certain) lethal dose, 15 hours and you're going to be very ill indeed (skin sloughing, hair falling out, vomitting etc). I assume they're running a rota. Self sacrifice although noble is actually a pointless excercise as your hosts discovered during the war. I would think that 1-2 hours on then off for a few weeks. I'm not sure of the fractionation details but the health phycisists, med phycisists and rad-ocologists would have it dialled.

I think I mentioned I have worked on devices that were in that range but for 5 minutes and then no exposure for a month. If you're interested the device was a berylium target. We started with two but because of sanctions reverse-engineered another two to reduce our exposure.

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« Reply #160 on: March 22, 2011, 08:50:57 pm »
One thing is certain - we never gave them credit for their unbelievable bravery in WWII. We called it anything and everything else. But it was awesome.

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« Reply #161 on: March 22, 2011, 10:50:45 pm »
Those of us whose uncles spent three years in their tender care in Changi some 60 years ago might see things differently. "Awesome"? Jeez... to be charitable, perhaps you are too young to have such a close connection. Or are we meant to hold hands and sing Kumbaya?

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« Reply #162 on: March 22, 2011, 11:15:49 pm »
Unbelievable bravery Luke?....or just another form of terrorisim......best do a Vwalter on that one sonny....make it go poof.
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« Reply #163 on: March 22, 2011, 11:41:11 pm »
Those of us whose uncles spent three years in their tender care in Changi some 60 years ago might see things differently. "Awesome"? Jeez... to be charitable, perhaps you are too young to have such a close connection. Or are we meant to hold hands and sing Kumbaya?

So would the 150,000 civillians(mainly children, women and elderly) that were vaporised in Nagasaki and Hiroshima?
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« Reply #164 on: March 22, 2011, 11:42:00 pm »
I can see this thread going the way alot of others do.

Noting that the news has swung across to Libya for a few days now I am wondering why the Australians so generously sent a huge water cannon to Japan to help with the cooling ,isnt a bit late for that ? Last I heard two reactors had power restored , I had thought that the other two would have also by now. If not then at least there is only two reactors to pump water onto instaed of four , so haven't they got enough water cannons? Don't get it .