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Offline lukeb1961

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Re: Pe400 Spark Problems
« Reply #30 on: January 23, 2011, 01:41:56 pm »
That's true and the 400 probably used more electrolytics than the earlier versions. They also tend to die faster if left unused, I read somewhere! Have not dissected a 400 CDI yet.

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Re: Pe400 Spark Problems
« Reply #31 on: January 23, 2011, 02:09:50 pm »
Buy a chinese CDI on ebay and try it.
Nothing to loose.
Max price is $18 although some are $8.
Was mucking around and plugged one into a MSD Husky ignition as a matter of interest and guess what.
Also have tried a DT CDI with the same result.
Also bought a ALTRONICS kit CDI and it worked too. ( $18+postage and a bit of assembly)
The hardest part was finding a plug to suit the Chinese CDI.
Should also be able to rewind the PE pulsar/trigger coil with a bit of patience.
These things appear to be magic but are reasonably simple .
Genuine is good but cheap also cuts it.
Mike :)
UPDATE --->  NA the chinese ones DON,T work on PE,s bummer.
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Re: Pe400 Spark Problems
« Reply #32 on: January 23, 2011, 02:16:05 pm »
You can get them through suzuki for $360 :o I need one if not two.
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Re: Pe400 Spark Problems
« Reply #33 on: January 23, 2011, 04:34:39 pm »
The CDI off one of these sorta works on a PE sorta.
Sparks good but seems a bit erattic.
Wierd sometimes sparks real good sometimes not at all.
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Re: Pe400 Spark Problems
« Reply #34 on: January 23, 2011, 04:35:27 pm »
The future is here. That's the my new stator/rotor assemby not a pit bike model Mike. Fully programmable, runs clock or anti clock, 35W output etc etc etc
« Last Edit: January 23, 2011, 04:37:38 pm by Lozza »
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Re: Pe400 Spark Problems
« Reply #35 on: January 23, 2011, 04:40:50 pm »
The future is here. That's the my new stator/rotor assemby not a pit bike model Mike. Fully programmable, runs clock or anti clock, 35W output etc etc etc

Sweet Lozza.
Get back onto the guy and get a Husky taper machined into the flywheel and a Husky fitting backing plate and make a FORTUNE.
Just remember me when you do. :)
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Re: Pe400 Spark Problems
« Reply #36 on: January 23, 2011, 05:41:13 pm »
All tapers are pretty much the same, just the size varies, which is why it's better to machine it to the crank. Same goes for the backing plate making adaptor plates is far easier.
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Re: Pe400 Spark Problems
« Reply #37 on: January 24, 2011, 06:48:44 pm »
how much

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Re: Pe400 Spark Problems
« Reply #38 on: January 24, 2011, 07:04:19 pm »
Can i see a picture with the flywheel off the stator so i can see the coils?

There is a guy in Canada on the PE forum running one of those German Power Dynamos specifically made for the PE and puts out about 100watts. Said its heaps better that the original magneto. He runs all 12volt lights and one of those digital trail tech computers too on his PE400.



« Last Edit: January 24, 2011, 07:11:30 pm by LWC82PE »
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Re: Pe400 Spark Problems
« Reply #39 on: January 24, 2011, 07:20:53 pm »
Leith,is that the original PE250 flywheel?
That does look good for running strong lighting....any idea on cost?
cheers..mario

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Re: Pe400 Spark Problems
« Reply #40 on: January 24, 2011, 09:06:32 pm »
circa €250 euro by the looks of it.
http://www.powerdynamo.biz/deu/systems/lists/suzuki.php

there is a guy in NSW listed as having PowerDynamo stuff.
http://www.powerdynamo.biz/eng/partner.htm


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Re: Pe400 Spark Problems
« Reply #41 on: January 24, 2011, 09:35:38 pm »
Mario, its a complete kit, all new parts. They say one is 70w AC and one is 100W DC, but i think they are only saying that because thats what the requlators are. The stators would be the same i reckon, but to be on then safe side i would get the DC one then you know you have the option. If that stators putting out 100W DC then it will easily put out more than that in AC before rectification, probably closer to 150W AC if you use your own AC regulator. A 225W Tymapanium reg are the go and will easily handle it, Baja 1000 proven since the 70's :). It really depend on what you want to run as to what regulator you use or if you want DC or AC or a circuit of each. I Probably will eventually get one of these kits for myself, i just wish there was more flexibility with the CDI unit, but the guy who has one of them on a 400 reckons its good as it is. You have the option to request the amount of advance you want if you tell them before ordering. The electrical parts are made by http://www.vape.cz and Power Dynamo designs the kits from Vape components. Ive used a few of them but not on PE's. I will be ordering one for an Adler soon.
Will be cheaper if you just order it your self.
There is a UK dealer for them too.
Most people will recognise these units as the 'MZB' ignitions which they are. Re-shuffling of companies now see them being called 'Power  Dynamos'. A lot of Husky guys use them too.

« Last Edit: January 24, 2011, 09:41:55 pm by LWC82PE »
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Re: Pe400 Spark Problems
« Reply #42 on: January 24, 2011, 10:31:53 pm »
Thanks Leith,that is a very nice looking unit and something to consider if i ever wanted to rego the PE250T.
I used to ride my 175 everywhere on the road,knobbies and all and the lighting was more "to be seen" than "to see"  :D
cheers...mario

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Re: Pe400 Spark Problems
« Reply #43 on: January 24, 2011, 11:47:19 pm »
how much


Depends on exchange rate but around the $550 mark machined to suit your flywheel. USB interface cable for programming(there is also a handheld programmer) is about $60 and software is free.
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Re: Pe400 Spark Problems
« Reply #44 on: January 25, 2011, 08:51:25 pm »
USB interface cable for programming(there is also a handheld programmer) is about $60
WTF! a USB cable for $60? What on earth is it made from? platinum coated with gold?