Check out my new ride. Worth the money????

[Slakewell]

the motor has been gone through (about 8 years ago) and it has been
ridden once since ,it is ok to ride but if you were going to race it hard it
may need more work .

After seeing the photo's of the engine I cant possible see how that engine would have started and ran the seal on the head cant have held compression.

[DP]

Well belive it or not the motor ran fine. I only rode it in about 2 races but preferred to ride my other bikes. I did not go through the motor myself & I was not aware the head had been repaired. I am not a CZ expert. I acquired as a family bike   

 DP

[Slakewell]

Well belive it or not the motor ran fine. I only rode it in about 2 races but preferred to ride my other bikes. I did not go through the motor myself & I was not aware the head had been repaired. I am not a CZ expert. I acquired as a family bike   

 DP

You now have the benefit of knowing what the engine condition really is as you clearly see in the photos. Now with the benefit of hindsight you could opt to reimburse for some of the repair costs?

[DP]

Brad new the engine was going to need work. Did he think he was buying a new bike. At the end of the day he paid me 8K for a very rear CZ that someone has said is worth about 15K when it is restored. Maybe he should have asked more questions or got me to take more pics of the bike before he brought it.
 

[DP]

If I had of known the head had a repair I would have replaced it with a spare head I had at that time. The spare head & cylinder were swapped for a set of new pipes about 12 years ago with a well known collector in Auckland. We never recieved the pipes & could not get back the cylinder or head so I had to get another set of pipes made   

[Marc.com]

You now have the benefit of knowing what the engine condition really is as you clearly see in the photos. Now with the benefit of hindsight you could opt to reimburse for some of the repair costs?
[/quote]

Good try .... go get that deal on anything ..... hell its not like you can get that deal on a brand new competition bike let alone a 45 year old one/

I usually buy in Aussie or the States, Kiwi bikes tend to have finally ended up down on the farm until they rot out. I also find the NZ stuff gets more buggered and shonky the further South you get.

[Davey Crocket]

One way to look at this problem...and it is a problem....the bike was sold in good faith knowing that it would require SOME repairs, as it turned out the bike, is a shitbox (to put it mildly), in particular the engine has had some very sub-standard repairs (it's a shame to be a kiwi when you see work like that). There are in fact alot more repairs required than Brad has stated, now wether DP new this we dont know and the fact is who ever dodgeed up the the engine would have told the owner wether it was DP at the time or his "relative" he got it off.  Now DP, your not a wobbler and have been around bikes along time, you would have known that bike was a dunger when you rode it so dont try to pull the wool over everyone's eyes. Now that you have seen the inside of the engine and it's sad state how about in good faith you give Brad what he's asking? If the fact that the engine has been "dodgeed" up is a surprise to you, why dont you go back to your "relative" and get a "please explain"....We all make mistakes and some are not our fault, sometimes we have to compromise, sometimes we have to put it down to bad experiance, but in this case I think a wrongs been done and needs to be rectified....the balls totaly in your court DP.

[Davey Crocket]

Another question DP, can you answer your email where you stated "bike will require more TIME than MONEY spent on it"......you wrote it!!

[DP]

Davey

This thing could go forward & back for weeks. I see in a one of your posts you wanted to know where I was from, I have put my name on here so everyone knows who I am. Since I am new to this forum you may want to make yourself known & where you are from to me so I know who I am dealing with, or are you someone that hides behind a false name but makes lots of comments     

[DP]

The engine work was not carried out by my father, it was by a retired motorcycle mechanic.
Since the bike has been in my family (about 17- 19 years) it would not have done more than 1 hours work. It broke a gear lever or kickstart shaft the second time my father tried to ride it & sat in the shed for the next 10 - 12 years
I rode the bike for 2 races at a flattrack(grasstarck) meeting a long time ago & I decided I would rather ride my other bikes.
It ran fine, as far as power goes ,it was the first time I had rode a CZ & a 1965 one at that, so I had nothing else to compare it to ( they are not that common)

[DP]

I said it would take more time than $$ to get the bike running as I had rode the bike before it was pulled to bits

There is a big difference between getting the bike running and making it race ready 

Like I said in a eairler post I do not have time to sit in front of a computer answering questions on a forum all day

Cheers DP
 

[paul]

Thanks Marc
The shipping & paper work was all ok on this side. It was in Australia where the problems started.
It is a shame things like this happen as it leaves a sour taste in everyones mouth.
DP

Then it becomes the importers issue and cost for not doing their  homework on how to carry out the clearance.

This part has nothing at all to do with the misreprentation of the bikes condition during the sale process and brad realization upon inspection that the bike wasnt to the standard that was agreed upon at purchase
and btw mark werent you recently sooking about being ripped off for a frame that didnt arrive and give the seller a burn in public .in this thread theres a copy off the email that was sent and its obvious that darrell is just pussy footing around the truth
read it again
 Hi Brad



Here are some pics of the CZ, sorry they are not that good & it is also
covered in dust from sitting in the garage for a few years.
Like I said eairler the wheels have been rebuilt with new alloy rims &
spokes , the motor has been gone through (about 8 years ago) and it has been
ridden once since ,it is ok to ride but if you were going to race it hard it
may need more work .
Tanks & frame have been repainted as have the guards alough they do have
some scratches on them fron being in the garage . It has new pipes on & also
the old ones are there & it looks like the original carb is in the parts box

The bike will need the ignition put back on as it was removed to get another
360 going & then I have never got round to putting it back on the bike
The bike will also need assembleing better as I have only placed alot on
parts on the bike to take the pics

Spare parts include a clutch, crank cases, gear box parts old cables ,ect

To get the bike up & running it will take more time than $$

$ 8000 AU

I can arrange shipping or deliver the bike to anywhere in Christchurch as
long as you pay for the shipping

Cheers Daryl

[Marc.com]

and btw mark werent you recently sooking about being ripped off for a frame that didnt arrive and give the seller a burn in public [/quote]

There was no sooking about it you pillow biter, I paid for frame from C&J and they made blatant rip off not just on me but other people trading on Jeff Coles good name. So blatant rip off versus various interpretations of the description.... goods still arrived so I would rather the NZ deal any time.

[090]

The engine work was not carried out by my father, it was by a retired motorcycle mechanic.
Since the bike has been in my family (about 17- 19 years) it would not have done more than 1 hours work. It broke a gear lever or kickstart shaft the second time my father tried to ride it & sat in the shed for the next 10 - 12 years
I rode the bike for 2 races at a flattrack(grasstarck) meeting a long time ago & I decided I would rather ride my other bikes.
It ran fine, as far as power goes ,it was the first time I had rode a CZ & a 1965 one at that, so I had nothing else to compare it to ( they are not that common)

It's amazing how much you can/ can't recall depending on the argument regarding the engine rebuild etc. A mechanic did not "go through" that motor. No way. Two crank seals, not even new gaskets were used.
As far as saying you don't have anything to compare it to , what a crock. Compare it to any big bore bike.

hey Daryl,

you are dead right, any 45 year old bike is going to need going over and you said that. Key issue is did you misrepresent it as immaculate and it appears not.

As a buyer you expect that when you buy, sometimes you get lucky when you open them up and others not. Pony up cost of doing business.

As for the importation costs that is down to the importer to have their paperwork sorted. Unless for some reason you with held the commercial invoice and delayed clearance form your side.

Great post, except that the facts seem to have been missed completely.
Not any 45 year old bike needs to be gone over. The other bike in Holland was perfect. So to, other bikes no matter what age, some are junk, some are fair and others are pristine.
I expected to spend money on this bike. I expected some work to be done on the motor but also expected it to be in reasonable condition due to being told that the motor has been gone through.
I also expected not to have to fork out so much more money when I was told it needs more time than dollars to get it running.
I see your play on words too Daryl by saying that by what you were saying, just to get it to start rather than to finish the bike. Nice. Took a few weeks to think that one up but well done. I know I always want a bike to just fire and er job done.

[paul]

and btw mark werent you recently sooking about being ripped off for a frame that didnt arrive and give the seller a burn in public

There was no sooking about it you pillow biter, I paid for frame from C&J and they made blatant rip off not just on me but other people trading on Jeff Coles good name. So blatant rip off versus various interpretations of the description.... goods still arrived so I would rather the NZ deal any time.
[/quote]
your sooking went on for months so brad not allowed to complain about something he bought in good faith just the same as you did


whats a pillow biter  btw is that what you say to your boy friend