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Re: Pre 90/Pre 95 in Classic MX. An idea whose time has come?
« Reply #195 on: September 22, 2010, 10:38:09 AM »
when i was pres of QVMX we ran a meeting at FORT LYTTON MX CLUB due to the drought.table tops,stutters doubles etc,very unhealthy for the older bikes -couple of them broke frames,exhausts .the funniest thing of the day was a 43 yr old -this was around 6-7 yrs ago,took his 81 yz 250 out with the moderns( this was a combined meeting) got a 3rd place up against the open moderns -450,525cc bikes ,funny thing was watching all the modern heros with all the bling getting beaten by an old man on an old bike on there home track-the old bloke was /is inclined to indulge in all things bad for you so saying a pre 95 wont be competitive against moderns dosnt hold water wouldnt do it at national level but club level fine

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Re: Pre 90/Pre 95 in Classic MX. An idea whose time has come?
« Reply #196 on: September 22, 2010, 10:39:59 AM »
Hey Shoey

you said that 15 pages ago



stop repeating yourself



Cheers Worms

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« Reply #197 on: September 22, 2010, 10:50:27 AM »
Dont get me started Trev.

Like alot of us , this shit makes me sick



Meaning the inactive nature of the thing , this discussion and the shove for pre-90 is more than two years old .

And still '' zippo ''
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Re: Pre 90/Pre 95 in Classic MX. An idea whose time has come?
« Reply #198 on: September 22, 2010, 11:01:44 AM »
Shoey,

You get a bad prawn at Marouba this morning ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Pre 90/Pre 95 in Classic MX. An idea whose time has come?
« Reply #199 on: September 22, 2010, 11:04:59 AM »
Yeh Pete

Got sick last nite.

Went out to see a cover band , that I thought was a  Gun's and Roses cover

But it turned out to be the Gunna's and No doers


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« Reply #200 on: September 22, 2010, 11:20:34 AM »
Yeh Pete

Got sick last nite.

Went out to see a cover band , that I thought was a  Gun's and Roses cover

But it turned out to be the Gunna's and No doers



 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Pre 90/Pre 95 in Classic MX. An idea whose time has come?
« Reply #201 on: September 22, 2010, 11:49:53 AM »
For the people saying that pre 90 and pre 95 are competitive against moderns, Ok well maybe yes thay can be slightly competitive, but its just the same as saying a 1964 BSA is competive against a 74 CR or TM or something, but we dont expect that just because a pre 65 is capable against a pre 75 bike that they should be just lumped in with pre 75's. Pre 65 bikes belong in 'their era/class' just as much as pre 90/95 belong in their era racing against bikes their same age and NOT against modern 2000+ bikes. The whole point is about show casing different eras isnt it?
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Re: Pre 90/Pre 95 in Classic MX. An idea whose time has come?
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Re: Pre 90/Pre 95 in Classic MX. An idea whose time has come?
« Reply #203 on: September 22, 2010, 12:31:26 PM »
flogging a dead cow.................. ::)or is it flogging a dead horse?

i reckon after 20 more pages we will come up with the same anwser.                                              maybe!

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« Reply #204 on: September 22, 2010, 12:42:41 PM »
holy heck :o :o :o  I though you were kicking me off big time when I read that  :-X  :'(    :D
 I saw redder than a 490 Maico   :P

 ;D  One of my favourite images....  :P

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Re: Pre 90/Pre 95 in Classic MX. An idea whose time has come?
« Reply #206 on: September 22, 2010, 01:08:42 PM »

My opinion therefore is that Heaven needs to focus back on the Vintage classes (i.e. pre 78 in my definition) and not try to dilute itself into a "keep everyone happy" at its race days. 


HEAVEN's original focus was the Evo+ classes - they've 'diluted' to embrace the earlier eras when Penrith lost momentum.

Otherwise, I agree totally with your sentiment. My only concern is whether the seperate eras could sustain themselves, particularly as so many of the old guard have stormed off in a huff and seem very reluctant to return to active racing.

Shoey, try this:
Proposal for HEAVEN to incorporate pre-90 racing.
Capital outlay: $0.
On going costs: $0.
Additional labour outlay: <1%*.

Expected additional membership: 10.
Income from additional memberships: $500.
Expected additional entries/round: 5 additional riders in the first year, increasing in subsequent years.

Of course, I could pad it out to make it look like a serious business proposal, but the basic gist is obvious.


*Based on one 'all-in' class for pre-90s. Given the time and effort required to run the club: manage memberships, run the website, conduct race meetings (MA paperwork, track hire, track maintanence, having officials, producing race programmes, and actually running the meeting), then one additional race/round represents a tiny increase in the total workload.


Bill, Alison, No single era club would survive in NSW. Its completely unrealistic to ask a new era of racing to survive alone, when none of the established eras can.
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« Reply #207 on: September 22, 2010, 01:26:57 PM »
There ya go Nathan

Now your starting to make some sense.

Now , if you want it at Heaven, start to lobby your fellow members , you may not get it over the line this year , but may-be next year , only due to the late stage of the season.

Or trial it with another club , say mid year next , (1 event) to allow enough time to get it organised.

I think if time and circumstances allowed it , you have the capacity  to be the one to do it

"old guard have stormed off in a huff and seem very reluctant to return to active racing". As for this , i think this comment is  a general figment of over active imaginations.

People like to do other things and there is natural attrition of the older body set, personally given the opportunity , i would like to race again oneday , so watch out you could get roosted.

PS:Nat . can't give you a gold star for that , best i can do is


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Re: Pre 90/Pre 95 in Classic MX. An idea whose time has come?
« Reply #208 on: September 22, 2010, 01:30:53 PM »

In the past someone in Victoria had the idea of running vinduros down there, so we thought it would be a great idea to run something similar here in NSW.

So we got together and put a proposal together to put to the guys at Manly Motorcycle Club to see if it was viable to run a Vinduro. They were wrapped with the idea.

So with the wheels in motion the three of us started to formulate a layout and place to run a Vinduro. It took at least 10 weekends of OUR TIME to set out the loop, logistics and sponsors but in the end it all worked out and we were off and running.

Pre 90 it’s not that hard to do, if you have to balls to DO it.
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Re: Pre 90/Pre 95 in Classic MX. An idea whose time has come?
« Reply #209 on: September 22, 2010, 01:34:23 PM »
Hi Nathan and others,
As a friendly suggestion from a NZ based Pre 90 fan.Until you are successful with your efforts with Heaven,I reckon you NSW/ACT guys with Pre 90 bikes should front at a Heaven 2 day event and ride your Pre 90 bikes during Saturday practice, as a sign of solidarity/help entice some new punters.
Just a friendly suggestion.
Good luck with your efforts.

Peace out ;D

PS Come on TMBill, admit you want to buy a 1988 RM250,come out of the closet!!