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Victorian Scramble Championships program. Wallan 1973.
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Re: Victorian Scramble Championships program. Wallan 1973.
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2010, 06:11:44 pm »
Thanks Stan,
Good to see what bikes are running,  8)  like the Alron over 300cc.
#53 maybe the one GKD is selling in Vic. ?
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Re: Victorian Scramble Championships program. Wallan 1973.
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2010, 06:38:20 pm »
Hell a Alron 400 racing in Victoria in 73 Wonder if there was a Victoria Dealer selling Alrons :o

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Re: Victorian Scramble Championships program. Wallan 1973.
« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2010, 06:51:59 pm »
Yeah the dealer ad is in the program

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« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2010, 06:53:11 pm »
That Baker bloke was popping up all over the place then! :D
I see Fr Noel Heenan was running a pretty low number then as well (6). Must have been before he entered the semenary........ 8)

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Re: Victorian Scramble Championships program. Wallan 1973.
« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2010, 07:04:54 pm »
Yeah the dealer ad is in the program
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Who was the dealer please ?
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Re: Victorian Scramble Championships program. Wallan 1973.
« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2010, 07:10:51 pm »
It was B.D.G.  Enduro and Motocross Equipment. 24 Radford rd. Reservoir (Don Stafford)
If you just scroll up the ad is in this program that I have posted on this page.

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Re: Victorian Scramble Championships program. Wallan 1973.
« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2010, 09:17:42 am »
Have the 500 JAP motor Ron Bergmier used in the Open Sidecar car event, now housed in my Hagon, actually is a 600, he liked to try and keep them guessing.
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Re: Victorian Scramble Championships program. Wallan 1973.
« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2010, 09:46:34 am »
Great programs Stan, we seemed to have been around the same places at the same time and I'm wondering if our paths crossed? I rode with the Oaklieigh then Hartwell clubs from 71-80 in MX, short circuit and finally speedway. Used to muck around with Andrew Horne, Grant Cramer, Russ Bergmier, Ronnie Dindale, Steven Ireland, Ron Chasemore and others as we progressed from Sub juniors to seniors. Lived in Bentleigh until 1990.

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Re: Victorian Scramble Championships program. Wallan 1973.
« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2010, 09:52:11 am »
Would be interesting to know if he won that day and who was second then as well.

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Re: Victorian Scramble Championships program. Wallan 1973.
« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2010, 10:28:00 am »
Would be interesting to know if he won that day and who was second then as well.


I will have a look tonight at the results. Was it just the sidecars you were curios about?

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Re: Victorian Scramble Championships program. Wallan 1973.
« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2010, 10:40:25 am »
A little tongue in check Stan. I raced against Russell in Toowoomba in '82, we on the Dr500 and he on the JAP and he beat us by 100 yards.  Just interested to know.
I have great admiration for his talents on a sidecar but always wondered about how big the motors were.
So, short answer, just the sidecars please. 

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Re: Victorian Scramble Championships program. Wallan 1973.
« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2010, 11:50:47 am »
EML, I would have thought that Russel wouldn't have been riding the Jap in 82 unless it was in the ARAB dirt track frame. Russel first raced at Ballarto Rd Frankston in 74 when we both turned 16 and we borrowed his dad's (Ron's) junior sidecar that was running a T100 500cc Triumph motor while Ron ran the 850 norton. The Jap was kept from 72 onwards in the dirt track frame. Russel's older brother Daryl was in Europe campaigning a norton while his other brother Neil sometimes swung for his Dad if Ivor Awarty wasn't available. Russel went on to use the CCMs for Juniors and the Wessies for Seniors and I ventured into speedway solos and sidecars. When Ron took very ill in 1992 I bought out all his stuff, CCM engines, the Jap dirt tracker and the Lindsay Urquart designed centre hub steering road racer with a CB750 on which Ron broke his back at the Lavington Air base International Road Rce meeting. It is pretty easy to see the JAP is "big" as it has about a one inch steel spacer under the barrel (looks pretty agricultural) to extend the stroke, which means in the hagon the rocker cover has paper thin clearance to the rear tank mount. Both sidecar frames went to the boys who ran Beaudesert Motorcycles in 1993 when I got transferred to Mount Isa. Their partnership split and I am now unsure where they ended up. All the Bergmiers were in the earthmoving/roadbuilding game and I thought that some of their own handy work was a bit rough. When they used Frank Musset and other engine builders, that is when they really were on song. Nowing the Bergies for 40 years I know that they would push any rule in the book if the could, but with every championship they won, when the bikes were pulled down they were always legal. I would not like my previous post to be interpretted in any way. They are a rough, tough set of country boys but fair, but also never adverse to a bit of gamesmanship. Do you know of many notable sidecar boys who aren't? Russel and I raced VMX solos in Vic in 92 and 93 and keep in contact with him every now and then. If the chance comes along I'm keen to acquire a sidecar and Russel is happy to come out for a ride or 2 each year, I eckon that be great.
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Re: Victorian Scramble Championships program. Wallan 1973.
« Reply #13 on: February 08, 2010, 03:13:26 pm »
Yes, I reckon it was the CCM he rode at Toowoomba. And I agree that they were always fair and fast and I have no beef with that. I was just being pokey when I asked about the 'Big' engine as we were beaten at the Nats last year by a monster engine that pulled away fro mus whenever we got close enough for a pass.
How about I offer my Wasp to you guys for a ride at Broadford?? It will be on the trailer and I haven't heard from Jimmy Ellis and co. yet to see if they want it/lol

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« Reply #14 on: February 08, 2010, 03:45:54 pm »
Thanks for your update Rosscoe , that is how I remembred it too .  Now EML , if you are refering to the " monster engine" that pulled away from you. Isnt that motorracing ?  That engine is 100% legal , you have placed a few jibs about that particular race on this forum  before . If you have something to say about the legality about my engines , please spit it out and share it with us . Its as legal and unchanged  as Emil Bollhalder won 2 worldchamion ships with it in 82 and 83 .Just so you know , it actually run with a faulty ignation that is now getting fixed for Broadford . So in fact, with a pre85 bike you chased an injured pre75 "monster"  in Connendale  ;D. The new frame 84 EML is nearly ready and waiting for the maiden run. So this year we should nt be in your way  , having now equal maschinery .  8)
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