The Nats

[paul]

create a monopoly and stick it too the small fry

[holeshot buddy]

ther were enough riders at conondale nats
to run over 50s  125/250/open classes
dont they have the numbers down there
didnt they drop the amount of riders in pre65
to constitute a class
seems strange they combine age group capacitys
never been done before from what i can remember
at conondale we accepted entries up to 2 weeks prior
to fill those classes which it did
so if i entered over 50 125/250/ 0pen
and cart three bikes down does this mean i race one

[JohnnyO]

so if i entered over 50 125/250/ 0pen
and cart three bikes down does this mean i race one

Didn't you cart 5 bikes to conondale and just race one??
You'll have a spare for each moto..

[090]

and cart three bikes down does this mean i race one Huh

No it just means only one age group race and the others are all in's.

Didn't you cart 5 bikes to conondale and just race one?? Grin
You'll have a spare for each moto..

And that wasn't even his bike 

[Davey Crocket]

I think it sucks as they have allways had the age group races. I feel for the over 60's guy's as most of them have pre 75 125/250/open class bikes and they DONT want to be racing against 20/30/40 year olds. Not many people are going to travel 1000, 2000 or whatever km's to ride 1 bike. Remember this is Vintage Motocross and these guys are the original's, we should be so lucky that they can still compete AND are still around/ interested in our sport. How many of you out there watch these guys and go "gee, I hope I can still ride when I'm that age"?. These people have been in this sport for 30,40,50 or so years and I think that the organisers of this event should hold there heads in SHAME for basically saying "well you've had your turn, now f--k off and go back to your nurseing home". As far as I understand the age group races have been there from day dot (I'm not having a go at you Dave), EVO and Pre 85 have not and the reason given by Mr Drakeford as for dropping the age group racing was to accomodate  these 2 classes. WELL, as far as I'm concerned you can f--k them off . I know you have to move with the times but Conondale proved that there are plenty of people who want to race in the age groups. The organisers should have taken a leaf out of the Sunshine State clubs " best ever Nat's". The Nats have allways? been on a long weekend to help people with travel time (contrarry to belief nobody makes a living racing VMX in Australia) etc as we know we live in a rather large Island and I think MA and MVIC are just out for a money grab with 2 big events after each other. I'll add to this later as I've got to go do some work now.

[AjayVMX]

[Bamford#69]

Hi
I was going to race in the over 60 pre75 125 race but it seems to be that we are not worthy of consideration in the grand plan,the over 60 pre 75 250 racers are deemed of no concern either ,we have to compete against the open class bikes, or race against the young punks in the all age pre 75 125, 250 class,
W T F,is going on
We need to separate the "Vintage/Classic" Titles from the "Modern" Vintage Titles, that is, have a title meeting on an appropriate track for Pre75 or pre78 bikes and riders and have a meeting for the "modern" vintage bikes and riders at a different time and track, it will solve a lot a problems trying to accomodate both groups of different bikes on the same race program.
 

[Bamford#69]

Hi Walter,
just because a younger faster rider can beat me doesn't mean I'll stop riding Vintage MX, when I can't ride a bike  by myself,  I'll just get one of those bikes that needs trainer wheels, and  a passenger to help me .
L O L 

[Mick22]

. Imagine Michael Schuhmacher  pushing for an age class this year  .

Imagine Michael Schumacher turning up at a Classic Grand Prix and acting it like it was a real world championship   I agree with you Walter to a point about "made up" classes but doesn't the whole Vintage scene really fit into that catergorie?

We all won't to win but lets face it we are racing VMX not current modern Championship racing.

I think in Vintage racing there need to be room for words like fun, participation etc which are out of place in modern racing. These old guys deserve their race

I'm only interested in Pre 85 and Pre 90 (sorry to mention the unmentionable) but I think when these extra classes start to impact on the age group classes its time to make a change, it has to be better for everyone if the Championships get split next year

[Tossa]

Doesn't matter in which event I ride, will always finish at the back, but you can't take the smile from my face!!

[shoey]

It is a bit ordinary

Granted , Coffs , Tassie and especially Connodale will be hard to beat , but hey its a new year with new challenges

Just enter (Support your sport)

Whats the problem guy's or is this just the the usual pre-nationals moan.

People moaned about going to Coffs , people moaned about going to Tassie , people moaned about going to Connondale , thats just natural.

Here's a challenge , new every year for this hardcore mob ,Spare a thought for the West Australians , they had a great turn out at Coffs , Tassie and Conondale , lets stay focused on the goal. Support for the ongoing running of this always fabulous event.

[firko]

Good one Rob. This pre nats negativity arcs up every year and while there are some relevent points being made, why is it that the negatives always overshadow the positive aspects?

While I disagree with the lack of capacity age groups and have voiced my opinion directly to Drakie, in the end this is how it is and all of the whingeing isn't going to change one thing. Let's support the event as our sports premier competition event and worry about any consequences of the changes in the post event wrap up. Drakies been around this sport since man evolved from the ape and knows the ropes. Give him and the event a fair go.

Perhaps it is time to split the Nats into two seperate events but let's debate it after the Broadford Nats.

[Rossvickicampbell]

but lets debate it, come up with a plan and put it to MA.  It seems to be the one idea continually coming up which a significant majority agree with?

I hope Broadford goes well and everybody has a blast

Rossco

[VMX247]

but lets debate it, come up with a plan and put it to MA. 
Rossco

Rosco this is not a personal dig at you.
I'm trying real hard not to get into club politics here,but    its been done before and now the GCR's have changed again with words like run independently   18.13.1.2..
Until the club secretaries from every Ozvmx club can get together and collate a letter and present it to MA ,nothing ain't ever gonna get done to the sup regs of Classic Nationals. Of course not every man and his dog will be happy with the collated letter,but hey at least they/we tried.
You as club members need to ask/request of your club secretary and committee to support what you want 
cheers

[VMX247]

Back to Nats & Bikes,spotted this beauty in Tasmania Nationals 2007,,,Is this one still racing around some where 
cheers