The Nats

[GMC]

I've been reading this thread for a few days now ad it's not going anywhere(go back to the start and read it again and you'll get what I mean)

You nailed that in one.
And now we're turning our attention to bagging Pre 90 & Pre 98.
There always seems to be some sort of paranoia about later classes coming in.
There was no Pre 90 at Connondale.
Their will be no Pre 90 at Broadford.
I don't know of any push to bring Pre 90 to the Nationals.
Pre 90 is only at club levels.


Focus guys, focus

[NSR]

tractor with a smugger

Whats a Smugger? interested is all. 
As for water dammed if do, dammed if ya don't.

[Davey Crocket]

I would rather ride on an over watered track that will dry out than dust that just gets worse!!!..... it's a lot safer too.

[Nathan S]

How far off topic are we now?

Most tracks will water during the day, particularly during breaks in sessions and particularly the problem areas. I didnt see this happen at Connondale - but considering how well the event was run, I assume that there's a reason beyond "We didn't think of that!"...

[EML]

I think he means a Smudger, to smudge or flatten the surface-or he might mean a smuggler, to get some extra groog into the pits/lol. OR to smuggle an evo bike into the flammin' pre 65 250 class-fugged if I know.
Look, as long as our collective bums point south, we will have these arguments-in 20 yrs they will want to add CRF's et al to the evo class for christ sake!!!
Aust. is far too large and under populated to do what they do in other countries-that is have 6 round comps travelling from state to state. It's hard enough in Europe were they do pay start monies, to scrape enough to get from country to country.
''As I have said before and I'll say it again''- Until we find a promoter to pay us to race(or show up) and collect the gate fee (from the spectators) to pay us, we will just go round and round until we're dizzy and fall off.(some don't even wait to get dizzy)

[Davey Crocket]

I reckon you could double that first bit Vwalter and tripple the second bit and when you get the hang of it maybe start doing some tricks......superman....nac nac (or in your case knacka knacka).....and maybe the worlds first backflip on a 95hp shopping trolley? , I can see it now- full sponsership from red bull, them little pitty girls walking around, what do ya reckon? Seriously though, there not all dingbats in Mexico, the track will be changed and it will be awesome just you wait and see!!!. Vwalter, do you want me to get Mr Morris to make some ramps up for you?

[EML]

''How far off topic are we now??"
Well, it is raining here in Qld and we wont need to water between races if it keeps up. But if it keeps up, we'll have to send the dog around the sheep-speaking of sheep-which we weren't, but now are,Alison is right- get some yourselves and some helpers out to prep the track and help out on the day with promises of a trip to Bali for the best flag waver etc... etc... and make it happen.

[paul]

 

[Davey Crocket]

You've just got the wrong glasses on Vwalter, go find em.

[Davey Crocket]

Brad can explain the technik to you.

[Tossa]

( Perth is grassy tracks and NSW and ACT are... lets say, a bit more demanding, to be polite. 

Never seen a grassy track in Perth or should i say WA they are either gravel or sand.  Manjimup is gravel and sand and damn hard.  The home track at narrogin for the VMX club is extremely hard gravel.  Bit concieted saying the tracks in NSW and ACT arr more demanding.  To be polite i would just say all tracks are different, and when you can find a nice grassy track in the dry state of WA let me know.  No offence meant in my reply

[gdr]

get over it boys to late to change the venue now,make the most of it.

[Tossa]

Sorry Tossa, my description of tracks was abit vague and inaccurate ,  Grassy  and your description  means all the things what you said .   Different set ups are needed for sky jumps , 30 " studders , stop -go  corners , bone braker jumps and similar  so called " modern " tracks .  In my application list there is a subtitle covering the two applications . 1) VMX application  2)VSX  application ( Vintage super cross)

I see where you are now coming from.  Honestly without having to do any work to change anything.  One of the hardest and fairest tracks around the country, whether vintage or modern would have to be manjimup.  Rode the support class (pre85) at the manjimup 15000, on a 1974 Yamaha MX360A.  track was absolutely brilliantly prepared.  Is used on the Saturday for a junior (all day) race day..  No doubles, stutters, some jumps not suited (bull) just ridden differently to later model bikes.  Great course, hopefully one day you'll get a Vintage Nats on it

[Rossvickicampbell]

see - one of the reasons why this should be a different thread - I think (?) the topic of conversation has moved onto the fact that tracks and eras should be different (or whatever) - No intent to shit bag this years or last years events - both tracks work with what is allowed by MA - however some people are saying MA is it time to split and because of this this and this......

I don't read any of this as having a go at Conondale or Bradford - just something for consideration maybe

Rossco

[Rossvickicampbell]

and that would be Broadford - if anyone knows where Bradford is could they please point me in the right direction