Tim, saw your comment re the Wallan and the Cheney Patterson Honda Mini bike rallies. We must have been riding there at about the same time as I rode Honda Dax and Honda SL70, Wallan property was owned by Ray Owen, great Victorian short circuit rider (read Dirt track). Russel Bergmier used to date one of his three daughters when I was swinging for him. Ray sold up in the 90s and moved to the Gold Coast with about 30 hagon Japs, bullies etc. Lost contact with him as I went to Mt Isa for a few years. Great track with thatb firts uphill drag race to the top after rounding the end of the straight corner. Loved the downhills, if you were game you could pick up heaps of ground as long as you could handle the off camber corners. Was a great breeding ground for future stars as I raced with the Bailey boys and both of the Cramers. Can remember Malcolm Fraser turning up to a senior meeting there once when he was matey with Bert Flood and had a couple of enduro models. Thats what we need know, a few pollies in VMX. Catchya.