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Clubroom => General Discussion => Topic started by: albrid-3 on September 28, 2009, 08:53:20 pm
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Heard on the grape vine that MA has bought Barrabool True or False and lf they had l hope that next year Australian Vintage Nationals will be hosted by the sporting club at Barrabool :)
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Negative as far as I have read...plenty of Barrabool or the Bool for short in Vic ;) ) if you do a search on here and the MA website. 8)
http://ozvmx.com/community/index.php?topic=9544.0
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Was printed in Cycle Torque MA stumped up $1.1M to buy Barrabool. So that answers the question where do licence fees go once and for all. ::)
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From the sums I've done Lozza, they could have bought it with their tea money. They must have a fund as big as Wall st -oops probabley not a good comparison- but you get what I mean.
In Qld they quote 200K members at at least $50 each per yr-you work it out. And what do we get-it's money for jam. This is my 'Old Chestnut' and it really gets on my wick.
We need to ask more about where it goes and how come if we are the entertainment, why do we pay to get in as well. I'm damn sure no other enterainers have to pay to enter.
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Conondale Nats riders had 2 free tickets each. Then again, some of us weren't too entertaining, either!
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I think every rider should spend at least 3 years involved in running a club and attending to LCB issues, and hopefully, having involvement at a national level. Then the discussions about where the money goes and whether or not riders are getting value for their dollar can be based on knowledge rather than perception.
If you want cheap riding, go for drive, find a paddock, unload the bike and go for it.......back of Bourke, probably.
If you want competition, pay for the privelege.....that is, pay for the infrastructure behind the scenes that sets up the insurances necessary these days, processes licences, sets up training schemes for officials (highly necessary within our litigious society), issues permits, organises track inspections and safety procedures etc etc etc.
If MA and its affiliate LCB's were doing such a bad job and wasting our money, there would be break-away groups galore and it would get swamped. There have always been black/grey meetings, and there always will be, but in the end, they cannot offer access to many tracks and can't offer the prestige of an Oz title. And just make sure you don't hurt yourself and have 5 weeks off work.
The choice is pretty simple, I think. And an MA license amounts to about 1 beer a week. In our condition, its probably a better thing to forego 1 beer a week and pay for the license.
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If MA have indeed bought Barrabool, I'd like to suggest to them (they do indeed read this forum)that it'd be a far more suitable venue for next years Vintage Nats than the universally unpopular Broadford track.
As much as I've had my 'moments' with MA over the years, I have to fully agree with Piries assessment of the system. The general belief that MA ripping us off and pissing our licence fees against the wall is way off the mark. Insurance companies override everything we do in the 21st century thanks to modern societies need to blame someone else for everything that happens to us. Litigation, lawyers and Insurance companies rule the roost so get used to paying.
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If MA have indeed bought Barrabool, I'd like to suggest to them (they do indeed read this forum)that it'd be a far more suitable venue for next years Vintage Nats than the universally unpopular Broadford track.
As much as I've had my 'moments' with MA over the years, I have to fully agree with Piries assessment of the system. The general belief that MA ripping us off and pissing our licence fees against the wall is way off the mark. Insurance companies override everything we do in the 21st century thanks to modern societies need to blame someone else for everything that happens to us. Litigation, lawyers and Insurance companies rule the roost so get used to paying.
I agree with this - on the Vintage Nats venue point, and on the licence fees. I've also been sceptical of MA's motives at various stages in the past, but this Barrabool move is without question a good one.
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From the sums I've done Lozza, they could have bought it with their tea money. They must have a fund as big as Wall st -oops probabley not a good comparison- but you get what I mean.
In Qld they quote 200K members at at least $50 each per yr-you work it out. And what do we get-it's money for jam. This is my 'Old Chestnut' and it really gets on my wick.
200,000 members in QLD?? Given that a K to me is 1000 are you kidding? hold on, just went and checked MAQ website and it says has over 7000 members so even at an average of 150 per member this is 1.05 million, from that comes the costs of staff, offices and general costs including insurance so not the cash cow you thought it was.
Think of MA what you like but the systems seams to work fine for me.
As for the Bool thing good on them and as I have heard the local government, for sticking their hands in the pockets and supporting our South counterparts and the sport in general.
Would be a top spot for the nationals not that I have anything against Broadford.
Shane
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If MA have indeed bought Barrabool, I'd like to suggest to them (they do indeed read this forum)that it'd be a far more suitable venue for next years Vintage Nats than the universally unpopular Broadford track.
I really like Barrabol but unfortunately Barrabol is no better suited to vintage racing than Broadford anymore, doubles triples and stutters, vertical ramps on the table tops etc. It comes down to which track are they willing to flatten and start again for the nats.
The surface is better at Broadford than it has ever been, they have put in a lot of effort to get it right, and a hell of o lot better than the Bool in the wet.
The biggest problem with Broadford seems to come down to how much time they put into preparing the track. When they put the time in, its great.
They have everything at Broadford to make it happen, plenty of machinery, watering systems, decent facilities and a good layout. We just have to hope the right people are involved in the trak prep for the nats
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A lot of people bash MA with very little knowledge about what goes on behind the scenes..I was on the board here at MWA for 4 years and it was a real eye opener...MAQ have the most money in the bank by along shot...and it is because of participation ..they get a lot of users...and users pay... insurance is impossible to get for our type of motorsport..so MA set "our" own insurance company..thanks for that ..now we can keep riding...as stated above ..get involved at SCB level and see where the money comes from and where it goes....how much does a transponder cost?....shit loads ...!!
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MA = Leech
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Geez- just as I thought-plenty of to's and fro's for old ACU (sorry MA) Democracy is always good for debate-or is that the other way around-I really should have listened back at Ngaruawahia High!!
Anyway, it still bothers me that in France they could pay us to race-no matter how many came through the gate-and yet even at our biggest event here we have to pay. Not even free entry for coming.
Bloody stock cars get start money for christ sake. But then again I 'spose someone thinks they're worth watching, where-as we can't buy a crowd.
On to Broadford, I can't comment on Barrabool as I've never been there, but as was commented broadford has the facilities but as to how they run a GP there is beyond me. In Europe the tracks must be 8 metres wide minimum and I think old Broady might just be that wide at the start and that's it.
There is plenty of scope though and I think it could be done but maybe we should revisit the argument that the older bikes race first and then as the track cuts up the more modern bikes get their go.
That way the bikes with suspension get to use it and those without get a smooth surface.
We spoke at length about this at Conondale but I have no idea what the outcome was.
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Somethings going on
Motorcycling Australia would like to advise that it has withdrawn the planning application it currently has before the Surf Coast Shire regarding McAdam Park, Barrabool.
The application has been withdrawn to allow MA some time to consider its plans in relation to the further development of McAdam Park.
The current application with the Surf Coast Shire was lodged prior to MA becoming involved in the acquisition of the facility.
MA’s CEO, David White, explained that more time is needed for consultation before making a decision with how best to progress with development at the complex.
“We need some time to consider all of the options for the property and will consult with the various stakeholders regarding plans moving forward,” he said.
“A new and revised plan will be lodged in the future – we are hoping this will be done throughout the first half of next year.”
As further information comes to hand regarding the future developments of McAdam Park, Barrabool, it will be posted on the MA website at www.ma.org.au.
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Interesting footnote here. A day or two after this thread was aired, I got an email from MA cautioning me about descent. Please tell me we all got one or was it just me and is big brother taking over. I thought this was an open forum. Was there anything I said that was not on anyone elses minds??
Just Checking.
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Interesting footnote here. A day or two after this thread was aired, I got an email from MA cautioning me about descent. Please tell me we all got one or was it just me and is big brother taking over. I thought this was an open forum. Was there anything I said that was not on anyone elses minds??
Just Checking.
:o You must be a powerful force ;D too many mates that's the problem :D ;D ;)
Don't ya love a democracy 8)
cheers
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I got an email from MA cautioning me about descent
EML, MA were just worried about how low you can go......... ;)
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Hi guys,
Broadford MX track will be perfect for VMX as it will be run in reverse (clockwise) from the usual start. A great idea (and not mine! - thanks Sean) for the following reasons.
What this achieves is that:
-the 'flat out in 3rd gear' charge into the suspension crunching gullies become a simple 'out of the corner and drive into them in 1st'.
-the 'kicker jumps' (anticlockwise) we will then just ride up the gradual ramps and just drop off them.
- the quads will be filled in between 1-2 and 3-4 and ramped.
-one tabletop will be a ride up and off proposition and the other will be cut down.
-the whoops will be flattened as per MA rules re: no indoor obstacles to be used on outdoor tracks.
Further, MV has mulched the entire track so it retains moisture and is as loamy as you will get.
There is a comprehensive automated watering system and dedicated maintenance staff to groom it.
Comprehensive first aid facilities, electronic scoring, office space and ablution blocks are in place as specified by MA National Title Guidelines. Pressure washing facilities are there too. The Presentation Dinner will be on site in the marquee. Full catering will be available as well.
You want practice? You got it. Ride the Honda Broadford Bike Bonanza the week before the ACMX Titles. We will also be having 'free' (not confined to classes bar sidecars) practice before the racing starts so there will be no excuses for not having your bike set up perfectly.
We are flagging the idea of a non championship 'Pre 1975 Interstate Challenge' for the 3 top riders from each state at the end of Sunday's racing; and hoping the Kiwis will be in it too.
Cheers, D.
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We are flagging the idea of a non championship 'Pre 1975 Interstate Challenge' for the 3 top riders from each state at the end of Sunday's racing; and hoping the Kiwis will be in it too.
Cheers, D.
wooohoooo - lookin good 8) let the games begin ;D ;D ;D
Brent J your the man for NT. ;) ;D
cheers
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Compliments of the day to you Mr Drakefjorde.(could be your cousin from Sweden on a Husky).
Good to see some early thought going in to Broadford. I have but 3 queries.
1; Does this mean the start straight will be slightly shorter and then turn left and join the track over a large jump down into a rather deep gully?
2; Are there any plans afoot to make the track wider anywhere as it is somewhat of a difficulty to make a passing manouvre stick on this circuit when mounted upon a sidecar outfit?
3; As for the 'Moto des State' is it out of the question to allow a member to be of the sidecar fraternity?
Cheers
p.s. this will be a fantastic event no doubt!!
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1; Does this mean the start straight will be slightly shorter and then turn left and join the track over a large jump down into a rather deep gully?
2; Are there any plans afoot to make the track wider anywhere as it is somewhat of a difficulty to make a passing manouvre stick on this circuit when mounted upon a sidecar outfit?
3; As for the 'Moto des State' is it out of the question to allow a member to be of the sidecar fraternity?
Cheers
p.s. this will be a fantastic event no doubt!!
Can I answer those :-X thanks I will anyway ;) ;D
Q1: Remembering Proserpine well. :P ;D
Q2: Holshot is Holshot-Have faith in your pilot. ;D
Q3: Perhaps those that have entered the Nationals and are competent or competitive enough could put there name in a hat for the State/Territory draw. :P
cheers
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I can probably answer #1 for you.
I attended the track a month or so back to join in discussions on what the plans were for the track & to add my 2c worth.
The start straight will be slightly longer than normal & then turn left into the track which will lead into a small gully with a left hand 180 deg. corner followed by a right hand 180 deg corner which brings you to the lowest part of the track. You then weave your way up to "Gators" tabletop, which of course will be in reverse. Hopefully if you can picture the track that description will make sense.
They were the plans last I heard.
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Spot on GMC, you must do a lot of thinking while torturing innocent bits of metal. Your direction was the one.
GMC, Sean and Dave H and I were with the MV track inspector Mark Willingham and manager Patrick Fletcher and signed off on the changes. All was sweetness and light.
If we can get 2 or 3 teams of sidecars from each state we will run a 'Sidecar MX des States' as well.
There, I've said it, lets see it happen guys.
Cheers, D.
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OK so the start straight is a we bit looonger -now that makes sense.
As for who's with what in the Moto des State, would they be too ashamed to have a selected sidecar entry in with their solo team?
No , seriously, what's to stop the organisers setting up a trophy and just awarding it to the top state at the end of the week end. Foreget about nominations and such. Unless a state wants to enter more than one team and then there's club teams- ah the list could go on!!
By the way when I was saying before that the MA had emailed me- that was in fact MAQ that sent me a note about decent- just to set the record straight.
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Hi Guys,
Had a club day at broadford ( east Malvern ) three weeks ago. It rained , In october , And the place turned into a nightmare. The place turnrd into an unrideable mud pit .Yes with all the the mulch. It just seems to me the wrong venue for classic motorcross in victoria when there are many other much suitable venues. Just my opinion.
Maico Stu
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It'll be great-besides I haven't had a nightmare in ages.
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WE WANT BARRABOOL, NATURAL TERRAIN, LEFT SIDE OF ENTRY POINT INTO BARRABOOL OVER ON THE HILL THAT LEADS DOWN THE GULLY, ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE VERY OLD BARRABOOL RACE TRACK OF THE SIXTIES , BUT ON THE SAME SIDE WHERE BARRABOOL IS NOW.
KEEP THE CURRANT MODEL TRACK FOR MODEL BIKES. VINTAGE NEEDS lONGER EUROPEAN STRAIGHT, FLOWING TRACKS. THEIR WILL BE PLENTY OF ROOM. WHEN WILL THESE PEOPLE LEARN AND LISTEN THEY HAVE TUNNEL VISION. Year ago the thumper Nats used the left high side of barrabool and they call it conrod straight at the time, that area could be used for the main straight for the vintage.
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EML, that descent is dissent, and yes, I got an email too. I think every licenced MAQ rider got one. We have been "naughty boys" making comments and airing personal opinions!
Mike
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I’m all for telling it like it is, but this talking down of Broadford is going to bring on that other much loved thread next year… “Why isn’t anyone entering the nationals?”
Yes it can turn into a bog hole if it rains enough, as does Barrabool if it rains enough & a few weeks ago Monza Park was touch & go as well.
Barrabools natural terrain??? Yeah, natural terrain plus manmade jumps & tabletops.
I never liked Broadford for it’s hardpack but the mulch seems to have transformed it. The mulch definitely helps it hold water to keep the dust down. Water used to run straight off in watering attempts before the mulch.
I doubt at this stage of the game that they will change venues. I’m sure the track will be way better than Coff’s Harbour (no offence to the Coff’s club)
The Bool is a good track, but not my idea of a top vintage track, & theirs not too many other tracks that are set up to handle a large crowd.
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i thought this was a land off free speech .not a communist regime were you cart say whats on you mind
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I like that geoff GATORS table top :D :D :o :o
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more like hospital drop off
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:'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( fork it hurt And i dont mean ross trying to root me on the track
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i thought this was a land off free speech .not a communist regime were you cart say whats on you mind
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It is free speech Paul,but its damn hard work for people to run/organize an event of this magnitude and even more hard work to please everyone at the same time. :P 8)
cheers
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it look like big brother to me/ shut up emails or else or we will %%%%%%%%%%
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Hi Peter.
Is it possible to run the early model bikes first and the later ones er...later?
It would be nice to ride the old girls when the track is fresh and great to ride one bike all day instead of one race per day. Not trying to tell you how to do your job, merely asking nicely! Certainly not whinging!
On a side note I took the pro taper bars off the '74 CZ ;)
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it look like big brother to me/ shut up emails or else or we will %%%%%%%%%%
Yes this is the land of free speech, that’s why I’m able to have my say.
Their was no threat from me so your conspiracy theory falls a bit flat.
You going to ride this event Paul?
Broadford has never been my favorite track, but that’s what has been chosen & I don’t believe that internet chants of we want the Bool is going to do anyone any good.
Brad, that has been talked about already, I think it will come down to how the classes need to be separated to keep everyone happy on the day. No doubt guys will also be complaining about back to back races.
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Is it possible to run the early model bikes first and the later ones er...later?
Now were talking .... ;D....this would also look encouraging for the pre65/pre68 to enter too. 8)
cheers
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Hi Brad,
Yep, we will run the program so the pre 60, 65, 70 & 75 run in the morning. More to come on this as we knock the Sup Regs together.
Believe-you-me, we want to make this event really vintage friendly. (We did abandon the idea of cardio, pinch and body/mass index tests at scruitineering. If you were TOO fit we were going to handicap you! Maybe the Horse Racing rule of weight for age handicapping might be a consideration.....)
CZ bars rule: nothing looks better in old photos of the holeshots than a heap of bikes you can identify from the shape of their bars.
Bonus points for a Brad Lackey 'Peace Dove' taped to your bars, Brad.
By the way, if anyone has an idea how you want to select your 3 man state team; let me know. I was thinking 3 best, last 3 standing, or just leave it to a nominated State Team Manager.
Cheers,
D.
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Broadford has never been my favorite track, but that’s what has been chosen & I don’t believe that internet chants of we want the Bool is going to do anyone any good.
Good call Geoff, I totally agree. I'd love to see it at Barrabool but that's quite simply not going to happen. Rather than loading this thread with conspiracy theories and anti MA rants, I feel we'd be better served if we accepted what we've got and worked together with the organisers to help make the event a success. The changed direction and revamped layout, the seperation of the pre and post 75 classes and the knowledge and understanding of the behind the scenes crew have changed my outlook on the event quite a bit.
Yep, we will run the program so the pre 60, 65, 70 & 75 run in the morning. More to come on this as we knock the Sup Regs together.
The inclusion of pre '60 in Drakies class list is interesting. I don't recall the pre '60 class being included in the sup regs at any Nats at least this century but I may be corrected by my WA friends. I'd love to see enough of these old buggers enter to at least warrant a class of their own. The two Ariels that were competing at Conondale are somewhere to start along with Johnny Selvas similar HS Ariel. If you add the smattering of Tribsas, BSA Goldstars, G80 Matchys, Greeves and maybe even Jonesys exotic Monark GP replica (if he pulls his finger out) there are most definitely enough starters. Getting them all there at the one time is the challenge. It's the same with pre '65. The roll up for the class at Conondale was pretty ordinary considering the large number of bikes in existence. Granted, many had their reasons for not attending, one being that many took the CD6 option when confronted with two long distance trips. With CD7 and the Nats being seperated by a few months the pre 65 grid will hopefully be a lot fuller this time around.
I respect the call for newer classes entering into our sport but I reckon we also need to maintain these historically significant classes. I'd like to see MA make some sort of effort to ensure these classes are not swept under the carpet and are presented as premier classes at the Nats.
Does MA have a game plan to encourage more pre 60/65 entries Peter?
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Yes Firko,
As you've probably seen from MA's collection of oldies; pre 60 bikes feature heavily (pun intended).
MA is accepting a minimum of 6 bikes to constitute an Australian CMX Championship class in both pre 60 and 65. I predict we will easily do that here in Vic.
As for getting them to come out and race; only good 'word of mouth' and direct encouragement will do that.
Thanks for your comments Firko, the sport appreciates it.
I'm a bit inconsistent with my posting as I'm only in MA 2 days a week and the rest of the time in an electronic black hole; so if I'm not prompt with my replies forgive me as I'll get around to it.
Cheers,
D.
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It can be very disappointing to travel year after year with a pre 60/pre65 bike and then to be placed in with the pre70 class, up against bikes that are ten years younger. :'(
I believe Victoria is a pretty strong VMX state,and hope those pre60/pre65 class's will get filled in 2010,making the challenge worth it for a traveling competitor. 8)
Also being close to the strong sidecar state of SA,lets hope they can also attend with there pre68/pre75 outfits. :P
cheers
oops forgot the results link
http://www.ma.org.au/AM/Template.cfm?Section=Results4&Template=/CM/ContentDisplay.cfm&ContentFileID=51464
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On the back to back events, perhaps a special award for "iron man" could work-i.e. if you have to race back to back you nominate yourself fro the iron man award/s and get the incentive to pick up a special trophy on the day.
On handicaps a think the more money you appear to have put into your 'crooser the more ballast you should carry-in a saddle bag- like the old country race meetings.( all the bets went in the saddle bags)
I don't know about Barrabool but I reckon Broadford is the best all round option.
On black holes-I only saw that movie once on SBS and now I can't find the remote!
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I doubt a lot of the nayers for Barrabool have ridden it recently. Yes it does have some table-tops and stutters but the stutters are cut out for older bikes and they are ran up a really big hill which is "full noise" city. The jumps can be tackled at any given speed and inspire confidence (even on a Pre 75 clunker I'm sure). The track rolles its way around the hills and a good rythme develops. You dont have the "start/stop" battle of our "premier motorsports complex" (no matter which way you go around the place..... ::))
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You want practice? You got it.
I thought there was a rule about not being able to Practice on a title track the weekend before?
Noel
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yeah, funny isnt it, just like having a claytons really,
so is this event going to do justice to the gcr's for all class's or are we still not accepting that evo and pre 85 exist?
real shame if we loose focus of where we are going and only look to the past as the saviour of the sport.
where is all the hype about inane things, or are we all too affraid to say something.
Cheers Trev
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Broadford it is this time. Barrabool is fine too and old Ravenswood with its poor gritty surface, ruts, rocks mud dust and sections of half a sidecar wide goat tracks was and still is a buzz.. So I be throwing out some feelers, if anybody would be wanting to try being a sidecar passenger,we will most likely need a mug. oops I mean a healthy sound minded individual to assist in the piloting of a very home made Honda outfit. Please bear in mind the last time my elder son raced this machine he flipped it and crushed more than 7 bones in one foot ...I have made some improvements like it has now brakes, sort of, and slightly more useless crap suspension and I have bronzed up (or painted over...)about thirty cracks and brakes on the frame so yep shes ready to go. PM me Tim754............ but then again it might just do some laps at the Bike Bonanza....
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are they having all the classes at the nats or are they
dropping some to make room for pre60 and 65 etc
remember at conondale it was a full program without them. :o
i am all for the old bikes racing but it seems strange MA can
reduce it to 6 riders normally to change a rule like that it
must go through a club to the commision which takes forever
what happens if you had 9 riders in pre75 125 eg
no championship class it must be ten ,when entries closed at queensland there
was only nine they re opened entries and got 2 more, just enough
to run a class hope it doesnt happen down there ::)
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I believe the sup regs always have run the GCR class's available to the us, including 18.12.01 in a title.
Don't think they would knock them back if they had traveled from afar while already entered,can't not give them a run. 8)
Its would be in there best interest you would think to keep the older bikes encrusted in a Classic Title (bar the pre68 :( ).
The day always seems to fit all the class's in,its a long day anyway. ;D
cheers
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I love Barrabool for the views, Location, the history of the track, not far from hotels, motels, camping grounds just down the road from the track, for our interstaters, ok, Drakey, and MA, Bring on Broadford, but l hope you do your homework on the track, Toilets, Lots of toilet paper for the girls and boys, spectators, showers, Catering, Connondale had the best showers and us dirty buggers need a shower after a days riding. I hope it will be good for all, besides, We have owned Broadford Complex for a long time now and it should be looking like Philip Island Complex or close too. ??? ;D :o ::) ::)
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This is on and off like a ............
What the ............ is going on with this facility ??????
Historic day for McAdam Park and local motorcycling community
Posted: Tuesday, 1st December, 2009 : 1:49 PM - - 820 Reads -
Today is a significant day in the history of motorsport in the region with confirmation McAdam Park, Barrabool has been purchased by Motorcycling Australia, State Member for South Barwon, Michael Crutchfield said.
Mr Crutchfield - who strongly supported the Sporting Motor Cycle Club, Geelong Moto Cross Club, and Otway Trail Raiders campaign to secure the facility - said the sport of motorcycling in the region had been secured.
"The State Government has been a significant supporter of this venue and in securing it as a home for the three local community clubs, which is why we committed $1.27m towards the purchase," Mr Crutchfield said.
"McAdam Park is a renowned international and national motorcycling facility that caters for hundreds of local families who choose motorsport as their preferred leisure activity.
"The State Government is proud to support this project and delighted that Motorcycling Australia, Sporting Motor Cycle Club and Surf Coast Shire have committed funding towards the acquisition of McAdam Park.
"McAdam Park is an important community sporting asset and I am personally delighted the State Government has played a leading role in helping to secure its future for the people of Geelong and the Surf Coast.
"As well as a venue for major and community events, McAdam Park also offers new or young motorcycle riders with a safe place to enjoy the sport they love.
"McAdam Park also plays an important role in helping these riders to gain the necessary skills associated with riding recreational motorcycles in a safe and socially responsible way.
"The campaign to save McAdam Park has involved not only this government, Surf Coast Shire, clubs, and the wider community, but also many local businesses that have financially supported this venue through fundraising activities and they should all be congratulated.
"It is extremely disappointing that the City of Greater Geelong have not committed to McAdam Park in relocating the Geelong Moto Cross Club there.
"It has been disgraceful how the Geelong Moto Cross Club members have been treated by COGG and the council must as a priority commit at its next council meeting, the $660,000 to the McAdam Park facility so the club has a permanent home," Mr Crutchfield said.
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This must be very good news for the Vics.
We have just been gazetted a m/cycle only park near a new dam that popeye is working on between Beaudesert and Boonah sth of Brisvegas.( about 45 mins) More details as they come to hand.
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Re WTF is going on...
"Allegedly", the City of Greater Geelong wanted title to a portion of the land package @ McAdam Park...even though the park is in the jurisdiction of another Shire!!!!
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I think there is some confusion between Sporting Motorcycle Club (Barabool) & Geelong Motocross Club who ran from the now defunct Breakwater track. I am an outsider and don't know for sure what happened, but am led to believe that after umpteen years in existence, it only took a small number of complaints from "new" residents to the area, for the Geelong council to close the Breakwater motocross track, leaving the Geelong Motocross Club without a home. Maybe someone can clarify?
Cheers,
K
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and old Ravenswood with its poor gritty surface, ruts, rocks mud dust
What? This years VIPER and VCM events were fantastic.The surface was MotoX perfection at the VIPER event due to great track prep and some rain the day before.Perfect loamy corners with a solid base underneath and just enough rough to make not too easy.IMO :)
Thanks to BIGK and the Bendigo club .
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Motomaniac, "and old Ravenswood with its poor gritty surface, ruts, rocks mud dust and sections of half a sidecar wide goat tracks was and still is a buzz..
"Ravenswood has always been our families favourite track. Review my posts if you got a few hours to spare ;)The above was written very tongue in cheek. May the Ravenswood Cup Please reappear!!!!!! and "take it to the creek"!!!! Tim754
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There's talk of the resurgence of a 2 day "Ravenswood Cup" event early in the new year, with all proceeds going to the Noel Clarke fund. I'll keep you posted.
Cheers,
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I've got to admit that I love Ravenswood, It's rough at times but it's 'old school rough'! I found a little gold nugget in the creek once which was pretty unique but my favourite part is accross the road. How many motocross tracks in Australia have a great little pub directly accross the road from the track!
Ravenswood Cup? I'll try and be there.
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Motomaniac, "and old Ravenswood with its poor gritty surface, ruts, rocks mud dust and sections of half a sidecar wide goat tracks was and still is a buzz..
"Ravenswood has always been our families favourite track. Review my posts if you got a few hours to spare ;)The above was written very tongue in cheek. May the Ravenswood Cup Please reappear!!!!!! and "take it to the creek"!!!! Tim754
Okay cool. Yer bring back the creek crossing - when its running!!
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I was led to believe that the Breakwater mob (Geelong) were located to Lara. And yes apparently the new locals had the Breakwater track closed down. The old argument of "we were here first" apparently isn't an argument anymore when the other side start talking envionmental impacts and the silver crested sap-sucker or legless lizard or whatever the fug else they can dredge up........
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Cheers :D Ravenswood Cup for Noel !! Now that is a superb idea. I be up for any officials duties from Steward down. ;)
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pre 65, l can count well over 12 starter for pre 65 250 class
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MA buy Barrabool? Lets hope they do. I have raced at both tracks on vintage and EVO both have good and bad points Broadford has all the bells and whistles but it's surface is anything but loam hopefully they fixed that. Being from outer state there is no where really to stay there unless they set up some real camp sites. Bitching over changing venues will not achieve anything. Put your support behind the Team and Drakie and make the best of it.
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ravenswood was a good track back in the good old days and good for the pub across the hwy, but it is a bit of a goats track now and to short., Ha firko the gold you found in the creek , it might be my gold filling that l lost when l went over the handlebars in 1974, l have been looking for that tooth.
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It was funny finding that nugget at Ravo. I was with Sydney racer Trev Lucas and one of the locals, it might well have been one of the Clarkes, was telling us that the creek was a part of the original Bendigo gold rush in the 1850's. After he left Trev and I went down to the creek behind our pit and within 30 seconds I'd found a nugget about the size of an asprin tablet. Over the next hour or so Trevor, Billy Brown, another couple of blokes and I had our own little mini goldrush and one of the other blokes found another smaller nugget and a quartz lucky stone with some gold traces through it. My nugget's still in a drawer somewhere in the house...with the current record price of gold it might be worth a tad more than the 30 bucks or so it was worth back then. ;D
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A nugget the size of a tablet and sold as a keepsake nugget not as "junk gold" could/should bring $3500 plus ;)
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Geez, callin Ravenswood a goat track may be a bit harsh....Bendigo MCC spent alot of time and money on the track this year and personally, I think its a top venue. Maybe not for a National event as it is not wide enough in places, but its a great track just the same and a credit to the club.
Anyway, I have heard from the horses mouth that Broadford WILL be the venue for that Nats next year, to be held 1 week AFTER the Honda Broadford Bike Bonanza, which is held over the easter weekend.
Apparently, the circuit will be run in reverse to normal and some of the jumps will be removed or rounded over to cater for those endowed with 4 inches.
I believe the track will be ripped as well so hopefully the place won't be so skatey when its watered.
In any case, I think ANY venue will be hard pressed to come up with something as good as Connondale was this year....That place is friggin awesome!
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Not VMX --MX -- good that they have secured a National event. :P
Locals join Australia’s best to help launch National Motocross Championship
Posted: Friday, 5th March, 2010 : 5:43 PM - - 1,412 Reads
Local MP Michael Crutchfield joined Geelong-based team, CDR Rockstar Yamaha, and some of Australia's best Motocross stars to officially launch the 2010 Rockstar Energy Drink MX Nationals at McAdam Park
Local MP Michael Crutchfield joined Geelong-based team, CDR Rockstar Yamaha, and some of Australia's best Motocross stars to officially launch the 2010 Rockstar Energy Drink MX Nationals at McAdam Park, Barrabool, on Friday 5 March.
Speaking at the launch, Crutchfield said he was excited to have a round of the National Motocross Championship coming to the local area.
"Major events like the 2010 Rockstar Energy Drink MX Nationals Series, help promote Victoria as a major events destination and help place our regions like the Great Ocean Road in the national and international spotlight, boosting tourism and investment," Crutchfield said.
"The benefits of Motocross for all riders - who may not be at the elite level these guys are here, has an important educative message, which I think this facility and the events it will host will have a role in.
"Even though these riders are performing at a National level, they are teaching our juniors responsible riding manners, whether it is here on the track, keeping them out of the bush, or being safe on the road, and this is an invaluable message to be getting out there.
"The Series visit to Geelong will inject hundreds of thousands of dollars into the local economy and I can’t wait for the first weekend in May."
Series Promoter and Williams Event Management (WEM) Director, Kevin Williams, was stoked with the progress of the Series and couldn't wait for the Championship to kick into gear at the first round.
"It's certainly a milestone for the sport that, with support from the government at many levels, this iconic venue has been purchased, providing a place for us to bring the Championship too," Williams said.
"McAdam Park is a special place for WEM to come; we ran out 100th race meeting here many years ago and by chance, when round three comes to town, it will be our 200th race meeting.
"We're really looking forward to bringing the Championship to Geelong and this season is going to see a number of different formats across the Series - we're really mixing it up and developing our product for the fans.
"Television will play a big role in the Series this year, with a one hour program for Pro Lites and Under 19’s, and a one hour program for Pro Opens to air on Foxtel and Fuel TV which is very exciting for the sport.
"Through this television package we will certainly be able to promote the regions we visit around Australia.
"We can't always get near a major capital city; however in coming to these regional areas, the economic impact the Series brings is substantial and also helps to introduce sports tourism to the regions.
"The Championship is about a $15 million travelling road-show, including the teams and all their infrastructure and it has on average a $350,000 impact to each community we visit.
"To the local community and all the people here, we look forward to riding here in the first weekend of May for our Championship round."
The first round of the 2010 Rockstar Energy Drink MX Nationals kicks off on Sunday 28 March at:
Horsham Motorcycle Club
Henty HWY
Dooen via Horsham
Victoria
Admission:
Adult $30
Family (Two adults, two kids) $70
Kids (5-15 years) $15