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Marque Remarks => Suzuki => Topic started by: Mick D on August 05, 2015, 02:54:45 pm
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Got to have a look at one on Friday.
One owner 1st oversize, complete and original. Faded plastics etc.
Post some pics Friday night or Saturday.
He is suggesting the north side of two grand.
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that's superb if it runs ..test ride ?? :)
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I sold my pe400 for just over $2000 a couple years ago, had full mechanical rebuild but nothing cosmetic, no road gear either.
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Sounds not to bad but I have heard that complete original one owner line a lot and its turned out to be no where near that most times.
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I have a complianced frame if you want the beginnings of a big project.
K
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He just mailed some pics
(http://i677.photobucket.com/albums/vv132/mc125mick/IMG_2152_zpsdexqnasm.jpg~original)
(http://i677.photobucket.com/albums/vv132/mc125mick/HGHT_zps8p16rwpd.jpg~original)
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(http://i677.photobucket.com/albums/vv132/mc125mick/FGG_zpsvbzedxrh.jpg~original)
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I don't know much about these, I have not ridden one.
I had three PE175s as a youngen, reliable, easy to throw around but awful of the pace if they dropped below 20grand rpm.
One reason why I am interested in the one is because I have a complete motor in storage and a new standard bore cylinder with a complete NOS std Suzuki piston set, that I picked up in a deceased estate some years back.
I have a complianced frame if you want the beginnings of a big project.
K
Logged in the memory bank, thanks Michael.
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Complete? Wheres the blinkers, battery & horn?
Price seems fair to me but if its got cracked rims at the welds and cracks along the front of the swingarm pivot, try and get it for less.
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Geeez
They forgot to weld the kick and the gear lever on and where the heck is the rattle can art work on the engine and frame?
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Looks honest at first glance so Its worth going for a look
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He is the Nephew of a very trusted and close friend.
I feel he has been honest with me.
He says he bike was running well when he stopped riding and parked it in the garage in 1992.
He has all the original paper work, owners manual tools, blinkers etc. etc.
He is the original owner.
I wasn't going to buy anymore bikes, but,,,,,,,,,
Is it worth two grand in that state?
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I wasn't going to buy anymore bikes, but,,,,,,,,,
Is it worth two grand in that state?
YES!!!! ;D ;D ;D I can't find anything like that here in WA
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Complete? Wheres the blinkers, battery & horn?
Price seems fair to me but if its got cracked rims at the welds and cracks along the front of the swingarm pivot, try and get it for less.
Thanks, I will check all those things.It may have a crack in the right side rear rim by the look of it.
He said the blinkers are still in new condition, but cannot find the battery box.
I still have all the battery boxes from my PE175s and DR500s stored.
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As Leith says check the swing arm and rims for cracks
being a plastic tank check it for signs of being brittle.
Its a big bore two smoker in reasonable condition so its got to be worth that much, id buy it for 2G if it checked out.
Final price can only be made after its been checked out.
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I wasn't going to buy anymore bikes, but,,,,,,,,,
Is it worth two grand in that state?
YES!!!! ;D ;D ;D I can't find anything like that here in WA
;D ;D ;D Ummmmm, I am starting to think that way too.
I see a lot of good things in the pics, like never thrown a chain.
No rust on the forks etc.
It may be possible to give it a really thorough service etc and keep it original.
Although I imagine a new set of shocks will be needed straight up.
What about you Frosty? what did you do for shocks on yours?
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As Leith says check the swing arm and rims for cracks
being a plastic tank check it for signs of being brittle.
Its a big bore two smoker in reasonable condition so its got to be worth that much, id buy it for 2G if it checked out.
Final price can only be made after its been checked out.
Wise words. Thanks Pokey
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He just sent some more pics
(http://i677.photobucket.com/albums/vv132/mc125mick/fg_zpssna9akam.jpg~original)
(http://i677.photobucket.com/albums/vv132/mc125mick/jj_zpstpwtfgrz.jpg~original)
(http://i677.photobucket.com/albums/vv132/mc125mick/IMG_2164_zpscugplap5.jpg~original)
(http://i677.photobucket.com/albums/vv132/mc125mick/hkk_zpscg5pignm.jpg~original)
Anyhow, see how it checks out Friday, thanks.
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Worth close to 2 any day of the week in my book.
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They are good torquey engines & much easier (better) to ride than it's MX brother (RM400). Shocks can be rebuilt or just buy some remote res Ohlins from a Husky.
K
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Definitely worth 2K, if not a bit more.
It's got a speedo! These things can go for upwards of $300 on their own! And it looks like its got all the necessary bits.
Cracked rims, maybe. But they're replacable.
I'd buy it (if I could get it past the finance department!
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Buy it Now!
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Thats just what I need, egging on ;)
First time I have ever felt sick about buying another bike(until I saw it). I said no more no matter what.
but, but, , , , but
(http://i677.photobucket.com/albums/vv132/mc125mick/20150807_122843_zpsalfnzws6.jpg)
There goes the two new dish washers back on to the dreaming list.
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Mick - that's Ok - you can always on sell it at a loss? I will put my hand up?
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[There goes the two new dish washers back on to the dreaming list
[/quote]Nice bike, Remember they still make dishwashers, but not PE's.
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Good one Mick, good score. Wash the dishes by hand or get a live dishwasher ;D ;D
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Hi Pete, I hope Jacquie can't hear you ;D ;D
That's a good way to look at it DR500. I doubt I will find another like this, but the dishwashers on sale at Aldi at the moment will come again :)
Sorry Rossco, the hunt is over ;) This is it, my permanent Vinduro Vintage Trail Rider 8)
I checked the beast over with the advise given, it seems sweet, thanks for the help :)
Just took the maggie cover off, I am thinking the engine is really good.
I can grab hold of the rotor no play in the mains, big end or little end :D
Massive compression and very slow to leak down.
Great under the gators, no scores.
Checked arm and frame around foot pegs, No cracks.
No flat spots, cracks or gouges in wheels.
Foot pegs and kicker not sagged at all.
For now, I look forward to a full service and ride it.
Happy :D :)
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Oh yeah, Don knew what he had.
He did want more than two grand, but in the end was happy to take 2 for it :)
And like some have said, I think its worth it.
Cheers.
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I got some works performance ones on a couple of mine work very well a lot better than the stock units there seems to be some large washer on the top of your shocks looks like it may have got a bit low at one stage with the tire mark on the muffler but I'd be happy to find one in that sort of nick.
I would have bought it for that although I have blown up my tl1000r and cracked it with the bikes all together lately good to see some nice bikes are still out there good score Mick.
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Thanks Frosty, bummer about the TL engine. They have an outstanding reputation as a strong track engine. The rear suspension system is loathed as dangerous though and the engine gets the back out of shape easily and all the time. But fixable as are most things. Way too much bike for me, if I had one I would be already dead ::)
For the love of crumb cake Frosty, don't loose faith. I will be needing someone younger and worthy to pass this 400 onto when I am shot duck one day.
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2G?
if it came with a step ladder i would offer you 2G and a box of beer right now.
could be the reason i like pre 75 stuff ;D
Seriously, thats a good price but i think you already know that. well done.
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Great find Mick and an absolute bargain considering the overall condition and knowing the provenance of the bike.
Much better than any dishwasher could ever be!
The rear shocks were never any good even from new so splurge out some money on a new set for the old jigger. You will be glad you did. Change the fork oil too mate....no doubt its probably still got the original gunk in there.
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Great find Mick and an absolute bargain considering the overall condition and knowing the provenance of the bike.
Much better than any dishwasher could ever be!
The rear shocks were never any good even from new so splurge out some money on a new set for the old jigger. You will be glad you did. Change the fork oil too mate....no doubt its probably still got the original gunk in there.
Hi Mark, thanks :)
I am so sick of doing dishes >:( the plan was two washers at waist height, one for clean and ready, the other for dirty to be done. Lozza reckons the Aldi $399 dishwashers on sale wednesday work great. Ah well, a dish pig for a while longer :-[
Yeah I have a set of konis here somewhere I bought from Frank Z.
I think there are 400 long, and I recall he said they come off some sort of Zuk?
That might cut me a little time to save and look around for options, if I can find them.
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Gazzi make a good shock bang for buck at 400mm , I have some on my Husky with no complaints
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being a plastic tank check it for signs of being brittle
Your theory checks out Pokey, It is rock hard. Been sitting empty since 1992. Dam shame the colour is great, same as underneath the tank.
It looks really good nick to look at but it is rock hard. Can push heavily on the side of it and it doesn't give at all.
I had a look at the ones in England and lots of the 1980 model PE's seem to use the earlier alloy ones,
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(http://i677.photobucket.com/albums/vv132/mc125mick/_57%204_zpsxhi6nevj.jpg~original)
So I just found and bought an OK one from the states.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/301676190579?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_sop%3D10%26_from%3DR40%26_sacat%3D0%26_nkw%3D301676190579%26_rdc%3D1 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/301676190579?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_sop%3D10%26_from%3DR40%26_sacat%3D0%26_nkw%3D301676190579%26_rdc%3D1)
I imagine it will be a fair bit lighter as well, Maybe 2KGs?
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Reason UK versions have alloy tanks is plastic tanks weren't road legal at the time
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Reason UK versions have alloy tanks is plastic tanks weren't road legal at the time
I didn't realise that Tony, I used to think it was only for competition, cheers.
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You will need to chop the front of the seat and make it shorter and make up some brackets for the front tank mount. Details/pics on yahoo forum as there was an owner in Canada who did this a while back.
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You will need to chop the front of the seat and make it shorter and make up some brackets for the front tank mount. Detaisl/pics on yahoo forum as there was an owner in Canada who did this a while back.
Bummer, ah well, I'll just have to jump through the hoop. There is no way I am gunna sit around all weekend with a split crashed tank whilst evryone is still ridding and I want to save and shelf all the good gear anyhow.
Thanks for the tip and link Leith, appreciated :) I will go look see what they do.
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Ok, now I need a quality seat cover, can anyone help steer me to one?
There are these
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Suzuki-Pe250-1980-81-seat-cover-new-/181793916964?hash=item2a53c30824 (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Suzuki-Pe250-1980-81-seat-cover-new-/181793916964?hash=item2a53c30824)
But a friend bought one from that supplier for a CR500 and wasn't impressed with it. I didn't see it though.
I bought a couple of covers from this mob years back, I regretted it ::) ::)
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/SUZUKI-PE250-PE400-T-X-Z-1980-1981-1982-PLASTIC-TANK-SEAT-COVER-STVPO-/301655832299?hash=item463c16b6eb (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/SUZUKI-PE250-PE400-T-X-Z-1980-1981-1982-PLASTIC-TANK-SEAT-COVER-STVPO-/301655832299?hash=item463c16b6eb)
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I have had a few from Pit Relplica (not PE covers though) and they seem ok and are some of the better repros out there. Or you could pay $300+ and get a pro bike seat place like Eldorado http://125.214.73.98/~restorem/
The one on 'DG performance australia' is Maxwells and come from DC plastics. I know of one guy that had a lot of trouble fitting a DC plastics PE seat cover. Seems like no matter which repro you use theres good and bad experiences. I have had those ones from SME Bike in NZ too but the logo was almost green. They printed yellow straight onto black and not print the logo in white first.
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I have had a few from Pit Relplica (not PE covers though) and they seem ok and are some of the better repros out there. Or you could pay $300+ and get a pro bike seat place like Eldorado http://125.214.73.98/~restorem/
OK, thanks again, cheap as anyway, I will buy one now.
I have a Maico seat from SA Eldorado. Absolutely fantastic, excellent craftsmanship.
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In the UK they wouldn't allow plastic tanks for road use. Try the hot air gun on the tank.Sometimes softens up the plastic.
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I have a Pit Replica cover on my PE250, and it's good.
I also have one on a TS250 and that's OK too.
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I have a Pit Replica cover on my PE250, and it's good.
I also have one on a TS250 and that's OK too.
I bought one last night after Leith's post, been hoping I did the right thing. Reasurred now, thanks Short Stuff :)
In the UK they wouldn't allow plastic tanks for road use. Try the hot air gun on the tank.Sometimes softens up the plastic.
Sounds like they were reluctant to accept it hey ;D ;D (plastic) ;D ;D :D
Alloy tank posted, hope to have it up and running before I damage this one. This plastic tank is the best one I have ever seen. I will try to save the rare stuff, particularly since this bike will be used, Heaps and heaps I hope :)