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Clubroom => Competition => Topic started by: Davey Crocket on March 13, 2015, 11:11:05 pm
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Well boys and girls, the QVMX 2015 MAXIMA RACING OILS CONONDALE CLASSIC has got the nod from the FIM as an International VMX meeting, a first as far as we and MA know. This event is becoming one of the worlds premier Vintage Motocross events, we are still finalising things but at this stage we have ....
The Linsdale Trust International 125 Twinshock Challenge.....3 x 15 min moto's
The Prime8 Racing International 500 Twinshock Challenge.....3 x 15 min moto's
*includes up to YZ125G in 125 race and YZ465H in 500 class
Both races have $1000 first place prize money
Shannons Insurance PRO Class
So far we have overseas riders from NZ and USA
More news and announcements to come in the near future.
All the regular classes from pre75 to pre95, women's, sidecars, 80cc novelty race.
Camping, hot showers, food available all weekend
Most people set up Friday
Trade stalls
Lucky door prizes
2 full days racing, presentation after racing finishes Sunday afternoon
Come and mingle with the best riders and watch them dicing it out, Aussie, Kiwi and others
Wether you are going to spectate or ride you do not want to miss this event
MXTV and VMX Magazine will be there
Hope to see you there
Check out our Website and Facebook.....
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What Mr Crocket said... in colour
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8574/16619198890_56c921633a_o.jpg)
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Nice looking forward to it ! :)
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There's prize money for sidecars now.....it just get's better and better.
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Real length racing with prize money. No wonder the F.I.M. has come on board. Well done QVMX.
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Will try for an invite to an ex world champ for sidecars or at least get a team or two from south.
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There's prize money for sidecars now.....it just get's better and better.
Bolt a sidecar to your TY 250 Joan and we can enter, we wouldn't have to be fast just finishing 3 races should take the money going by the usual attrition rate ;D
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Billy, the fastest sidecar team in Aussie are Qld'ers....they went south last year and whooped arse.....bought all the tinware back with them.
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Real length racing with prize money. No wonder the F.I.M. has come on board. Well done QVMX.
Mmm Ted why has it gone from being the World title to just a challenge now and why would the FIM be interested in old farts running around a cow paddock
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What Mr Crocket said... in colour
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8574/16619198890_41b76a3c04_o.jpg)
International sounds better I reckon ;D
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Hey Foxy nothing has the ring to it like "World Championship" I've been to three "Twinshock World Championships" and came home full of enthusiasm for how great it would be to run one in Australia. The shear cost of running under FIM seemed beyond the resources available at that time so it didn't happen.
I congratulate you guys on this endeavour and it's an exciting project.
I repeat Graham's question though, if you have FIM approval why down grade it from 'World Championship" as originally publicised to a "Challenge"? Doesn't have the same pizzazz.
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Maybe this will help a couple of posters see things differently ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQB_h0Qsqww
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I think plastic world championships are the domain of our friends in the USA ;)
International challenge has a nice ring to it and encapsulates the true nature of the event .
Well done to all involved, you guys have done a great job in spite of the system :)
Im buying my ticket and getting my mechanics overalls out for the event :)
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Hey Foxy nothing has the ring to it like "World Championship" I've been to three "Twinshock World Championships" and came home full of enthusiasm for how great it would be to run one in Australia. The shear cost of running under FIM seemed beyond the resources available at that time so it didn't happen.
I congratulate you guys on this endeavour and it's an exciting project.
I repeat Graham's question though, if you have FIM approval why down grade it from 'World Championship" as originally publicised to a "Challenge"? Doesn't have the same pizzazz.
Hi Col
The wording "World" and "Championship" in the same sentence are owned by the FIM. It was a tongue in cheek advertising slogan while behind the scenes some very hard working people where negotiating with MQ and MA [as you would know MQ is affiliated to MA which in turn is affiliated to the FIM...the world governing body]. We came up with the words "International Challenge" [ which also belongs to the FIM] and received the full backing of MQ and MA who organised the permit to upgrade this event to get the FIM backing. As far as MA knows this is the first event of such. It already was an International meeting with the likes of the King brothers Darryll and Shane coming over from NZ. This meeting has not been downgraded, it has moved up a few notch's, it is bigger than the Nationals, is helping to bring VMX to the unconverted in both riders and the public [Craig Anderson will be riding for the first time this year]. Was on National TV last year [MXTV....Google it and watch]...and the same for this year, it brings professionalism to VMX which has never been there and will have race's where you can see the bikes being ridden to there full potential. It's the premier meeting of the year [has been for the last3] and just keeps growing....this year there is prize money on offer in certain races. QVMX are working hard at developing the sport and making things happen. It will be a great meeting that the club can be proud of......and the people that attend it....people dream of this kind of meeting....we make it happen and the FIM is part of it this year.
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As I said, congratulations. Overseas riders certainly add to an event as evidenced by WA having Jeff Smith, Jim Aird, Peter Ploen, Vic and Jim Allen, Brian Wade, a couple of lesser lights from USA, and a team from South Africa come to their events.
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Yes thanks Col,
we are all looking forward to it and as you know what needs to be done behind the scenes for any big event it will keep the committee busy for awhile .
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Us sidecar fellas are wanting to promote our sport and this event is going to be a ripper there might be prize money up for grabs but it is still all about the fun of it all see ya there ????????????????????????
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Does anyone know who is doing the scrutineering on the bikes for this event?
Kevin
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Pm sent .
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Every VMX fan or rider should make an effort to get to this event, its a step forward for YOUR sport , and being your sport , support it .
Scott
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So Bill, if you are donning overalls, you'll be able to spanner for the NZ sidecar team and make sure they finish.
To be honest, yes we do need more effort to keep our 30+ yr old outfits rotating, and we will be working on that for this event.
Also, not so tongue-in-cheek, how would we go getting a Kiwi team to race an outfit at the event. We currently have at least 5 sidecars without riders or passengers ready to race here, so supplying an outfit is no problem.....maybe we could have an international challenge for the sidecar races too.
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Billy would be into that, I can see Bill and the Buzzard on a chair......shit, I might have to come out of retirement, will have to talk to the driver. 8)
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Well done you lot at QVMX. This could very well be the adrenalin shot that VMX has been screaming out for.... Looks like I'm traveling north this year just so I can be a part of it and watch the real guns ride. 8)
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So Bill, if you are donning overalls, you'll be able to spanner for the NZ sidecar team and make sure they finish.
To be honest, yes we do need more effort to keep our 30+ yr old outfits rotating, and we will be working on that for this event.
Also, not so tongue-in-cheek, how would we go getting a Kiwi team to race an outfit at the event. We currently have at least 5 sidecars without riders or passengers ready to race here, so supplying an outfit is no problem.....maybe we could have an international challenge for the sidecar races too.
Vaughn I would love to swing on a chair at the event but my international racing days are over . I will ask a couple of blokes if there keen, Buzzard being one of them.
There really is nothing more exciting than a full field of outfits going for it , this event is shaping up to be the biggest yet 8)
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So Bill, if you are donning overalls, you'll be able to spanner for the NZ sidecar team and make sure they finish.
To be honest, yes we do need more effort to keep our 30+ yr old outfits rotating, and we will be working on that for this event.
Also, not so tongue-in-cheek, how would we go getting a Kiwi team to race an outfit at the event. We currently have at least 5 sidecars without riders or passengers ready to race here, so supplying an outfit is no problem.....maybe we could have an international challenge for the sidecar races too.
Vaughn I would love to swing on a chair at the event but my international racing days are over . I will ask a couple of blokes if there keen, Buzzard being one of them.
There really is nothing more exciting than a full field of outfits going for it , this event is shaping up to be the biggest yet 8)
just the sound alone of the big four strokes on song gets me.. :)
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Hope you are getting you commentating voice ready popeye ;)
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Now I've retired might have to wander over, might even make up the numbers in the pre75(anyone got a bike for an old fart). Though I do have a question the "FIM sanctioned event" does this cause any problems in the licencing and cost of the event. I know the VMXWA club had to be caution on how they promote their 15th anniversary as there were international riders to avoid the costs and licencing requirement.
But definitely have to have a wander over to the east for this, Good luck, I'm right behind it, (my normal position in a race) Great effort.
cheers
barry
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No licencing problems Tossa and no added cost to the event. We went through MQ and MA to make sure everything was done correctly. I reckon we could find a bike or 5 for you. It's a trip well worth making, the whole weekend is a buzz and you'll get to hang with the best. 8)
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All good Brian ready to go mate. My sidecar will need a rider to if any one is keen????
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All good Brian ready to go mate. My sidecar will need a rider to if any one is keen????
The cr500 ?
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Barry if I haven't sold that 74 400 Husky by then you can ride it.
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No licencing problems Tossa and no added cost to the event. We went through MQ and MA to make sure everything was done correctly. I reckon we could find a bike or 5 for you. It's a trip well worth making, the whole weekend is a buzz and you'll get to hang with the best. 8)
Thanks Davey I was just interested in the effect of different elements in costs. I will definitely try and make the effort to get over
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Barry if I haven't sold that 74 400 Husky by then you can ride it.
Thanks John will keep it in mind
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There's an Ossa phantom here as well Barry.
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Yep that's the one.
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Yep that's the one.
Ok bud, will point them in your direction ...
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Hey John, the FIM banners and flags have been sent to my place. What shall i do with them?
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Hey John, the FIM banners and flags have been sent to my place. What shall i do with them?
Ted dont think Johns on here much anymore might pay to ring him mate
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Hey John, the FIM banners and flags have been sent to my place. What shall i do with them?
Ted dont think Johns on here much anymore might pay to ring him mate
Spoke to him today very busy man.... watch this space ;)
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Just bring them to the meeting Ted.
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What sort of rider numbers do you think will be at Conondale Davey , and will it compare to the Vintage nats just gone ?
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What sort of rider numbers do you think will be at Conondale Davey , and will it compare to the Vintage nats just gone ?
that's just dividing the sport right down the guts in that statement. :(
As before stated on this forum different riders attend different events for different reason.
May the force be with our sport Australia wide. :)
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Thats not a statement but a question .
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I'd estimate around 200 riders at Conondale Classic this year, if previous years are anything to go by.
As for comparison, no idea.
Cheers
Kim
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ossa phantom you say............. @brad
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ossa phantom you say............. @brad
You wanting a run?
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Right up your alley Freaky.....see you there. 8)
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ossa phantom you say............. @brad
Oi, offered me first!!!lol
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There's plenty of bikes going around......don't panic.
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I'd estimate around 200 riders at Conondale Classic this year, if previous years are anything to go by.
As for comparison, no idea.
Cheers
Kim
Last year was around 120 riders I believe.. give or take a few
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Ok.... I've tried biting my tongue (blunting my fingers) but is there any truth to the rumour that this event IS NOT an FIM affiliated event? Secondly, why would it seem that you are attempting to divide the sport and make it state vs state, first in best dressed affair, and compete with the pre78 Nats in WA that are less than a handful of weeks after this event?
This isn't football. It's vmx and every state, regardless of who is running it, deserves our support.
Over n Out
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Wow. So we are going to try and close this post now.
The date for Conondale Classic was on the calendar a long time before the Aust Classic MX Champs were added to the calendar (fact).
The decision that is likely to have a more adverse effect on the ACMXC is the Aust Classic/Post Classic DT Champs being permitted to clash with ACMXC on the same weekend.
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Wow. So we are going to try and close this post now.
The date for Conondale Classic was on the calendar a long time before the Aust Classic MX Champs were added to the calendar (fact).
The decision that is likely to have a more adverse effect on the ACMXC is the Aust Classic/Post Classic DT Champs being permitted to clash with ACMXC on the same weekend.
Kev you would know is this thing FIM or not.
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I have from good authority that this event IS NOT FIM affiliated and that QVMX has been ordered to detract every mention of it being so.
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I have from good authority that this event IS NOT FIM affiliated and that QVMX has been ordered to detract every mention of it being so.
I have been told the same...
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Not only is there no reply to the question regarding FIM affiliation from QVMX, there were only 4 QVMX riders at the Ravenswood nats! Doesn't seem like "Australia's #1 VMX Club" are interested in supporting the post classic era ::)
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So the chances of this meeting going ahead may not be good. MA will never issue a permit under those circumstances and FIM won't be happy with there trademark being thrown around willy nilly
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The thread about eligibility has been shut down so it’s now time to turn all negative energy towards bringing this event down. >:(
And you wonder why the grids are becoming smaller!!
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The thread about eligibility has been shut down so it’s now time to turn all negative energy towards bringing this event down. >:(
And you wonder why the grids are becoming smaller!!
No mate just looking for the truth . punters hate being lied to
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The event will be fantastic as it has every year. Always very well supported and very well run. Great vibe and great turnout of ex and current pro racers. Who gives a rats if it is FIM or not? This punter and racer at this event won't!
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This event is run every year and as far as I know it usually goes off quite well. If there is a question over FIM affiliation, it will have absolutely no effect on local riders enjoying the racing as they do every year. Why on earth even raise this question here? Please keep the discussion to the topic of the event itself.
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What bike cc and year is allowed in womens class?
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What bike cc and year is allowed in womens class?
All powers up to pre 95
Cheers
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If there is a question over FIM affiliation, it will have absolutely no effect on local riders enjoying the racing as they do every year. Why on earth even raise this question here? Please keep the discussion to the topic of the event itself.
Because we don't like being lied to Graeme. It smells of rat droppings.
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Just reading the ABC news website and a story about the efforts to get this young bloke a posthumous VC. It really puts everything else in crystal clear perspective.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teddy_Sheean
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Because we don't like being lied to Graeme. It smells of rat droppings.
Well, ring MA first thing Monday. Why go rumour-mongering on a forum?
Please, no more about the FIM affiliation thing. If you are worried about it, get onto the club or MA.
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This shit is sickening. There is an obvious us and them mentality going on within the two Vmx clubs in Queensland. Personal clashes and pissing contests are reigning supreme over the need to look after Vmx as a whole. I am friends with most of these people but cannot for the life of me understand why this shit needs to go on. Vmx is the only loser here. Wake up, beg to differ and move on. Move on together. Help a Vmx brother out, not stomp him out.
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I did say no more comments about the FIM affiliation matter. If it concerns you pursue it formally through official channels. I don't want it on here. I have deleted two further posts on the matter.
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Looking forward to the meeting. Shayne King is keen as again this year and hopes to come over early to get some secret practice in ( well not so secret now).
Keen to take some of that money home too.
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There will be 2 more Kings crossing the ditch Brad, Trevor and son Campbell....no relation to Shayne and Darryll but Campbell has raced for Shayne's NZ Honda team. Trevor raced in Qld in the 70's doing Mr Motocross and other meetings....might have to get Damien [Shayne's little brother ] to come as well...invaded by 5 Kiwi Kings.....more than a few titles between them. 8)
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Are classes finalized & if so where do you find them?
K
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From this,
Well done you lot at QVMX. This could very well be the adrenalin shot that VMX has been screaming out for.... Looks like I'm traveling north this year just so I can be a part of it and watch the real guns ride. 8)
To this, in the one topic.
Not only is there no reply to the question regarding FIM affiliation from QVMX, there were only 4 QVMX riders at the Ravenswood nats! Doesn't seem like "Australia's #1 VMX Club" are interested in supporting the post classic era ::)
What happened to your enthusiasm ?
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From this,
Well done you lot at QVMX. This could very well be the adrenalin shot that VMX has been screaming out for.... Looks like I'm traveling north this year just so I can be a part of it and watch the real guns ride. 8)
To this, in the one topic.
Not only is there no reply to the question regarding FIM affiliation from QVMX, there were only 4 QVMX riders at the Ravenswood nats! Doesn't seem like "Australia's #1 VMX Club" are interested in supporting the post classic era ::)
What happened to your enthusiasm ?
Ahh Teddles, back to your usual style!
My enthusiasm went wayward when I decided I want to go to WA instead. I might go to the Queensland Classic Championships in June too if I can muster the time.
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I'd like to attend as it sounds top notch, some planning required for a 4000klm plus round trip though. Can one of the organisers answer my previous question as to what classes will run please?
K
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All of the classes are listed in the opening header on Page 1
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I'd like to attend as it sounds top notch, some planning required for a 4000klm plus round trip though. Can one of the organisers answer my previous question as to what classes will run please?
K
contacts are on front page or go through the club web site for contacts www.qvmx.com.au
what bikes are you thinking about riding ... :)
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All of the classes are listed in the opening header on Page 1
I'd like to know the proposed classes as well.
Apart from the 125's and 500 twin shock events the header page mentions:
"All the regular classes from pre75 to pre95, women's, sidecars, 80cc novelty race".
Could this list be expanded upon and posted here please?
Marcus.
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I've seen the header & looked at the QVMX website but not found anything as to what I've asked. Being a Victorian I don not know what "all the usual classes" for QVMX events are. Is it too much to ask for a detailed list of classes?
K
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There is contact Ph Nos and an email address
Contact the club direct
That is what I would do.
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Looking forward to the much anticipated Conondale Classic, preparation of the 500 Husky's going well , theres some wobbler [slingshot] :P who thinks his YZ465 with a scrubber on board will take the money , and a mixed up kiwi :o, [ doormat ] who thinks the silverware will be staying in Qld
Both are dreamin,
Anyway time will tell, looking forward to seeing some very fast internationals , along with some very cool vintage steeds 8)
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I know Prime8Racing is entering three Husky 500's in the International race. He must be pretty serious as he has got Lewis Bros. to make him some new pipes and he's got Chad Reed's cousin ;D riding one of them.
Are you setting your bikes for this race also scottm? Would be good to see a lot of Euro bikes line up.
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Yeah Ted , going to have some euro bikes at Conondale, might throw a leg over one to bring back some memories, looks like there will be a few euros in the 500 evo class.
Then again I might sit back and watch some entertaining racing, spoke to John and he is very up beat on the event, with riders and bikes entering also some surprises
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Hey Scott, you are lucky eagle eye KTM47 hasn't picked you up on the fact there is no Evo Class
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Hey Scott, you are lucky eagle eye KTM47 hasn't picked you up on the fact there is no Evo Class
What information are you basing this on Col.
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Hey Scott, you are lucky eagle eye KTM47 hasn't picked you up on the fact there is no Evo Class
I haven't seen the supp regs yet. So I can't/won't comment. I don't comment on hearsay and no one else should either.
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Thats correct , 500 twin shock challenge, my mistake, I will still have the euros entered
Might take a bit French Flair , along too
What are you taking along Supersenior ?
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I think 250 and 400 Maico , maybe 250 Ossa depending on programn.
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Hey Scott, you are lucky eagle eye KTM47 hasn't picked you up on the fact there is no Evo Class
What information are you basing this on Col.
And to my question Col
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Hey Scott, you are lucky eagle eye KTM47 hasn't picked you up on the fact there is no Evo Class
No Evo class where? What are you talking about?
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I am only interested in the 500 Twinshock Challenge as I reckon for me it's a quick $1000, I'll leave the Evo,and the bear baiting, for the lesser mortals.
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I am only interested in the 500 Twinshock Challenge as I reckon for me it's a quick $1000, I'll leave the Evo,and the bear baiting, for the lesser mortals.
:D
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A mere two month ago...............
As some of you know, I've been running the OzVMX forum for over 10 years. That's a long time and it has succeeded and grown far more than I ever imagined it would. Which is great. However, one aspect of the forum that has always consumed a lot of time, effort and careful judgement is moderation. When I began OzVMX, I had the view that as long as discussions didn't end up in the gutter, pretty much anything was open to debate and I felt that very robust discussion was fine.
Well, over the years this hasn't always worked. I've been threatened with litigation, had threats made against me, had to adjudicate all sorts of weird disputes and had many many phone calls, messages and emails about matters on the forum.
A couple of years ago when a few members became regularly abusive of others, I eventually had to apply stricter moderation, provide some guidelines to forum use, and ban a couple of people. This was in response to a torrent of complaint and dissatisfaction from many members. We even lost a few of the stalwarts of the forum over this.
In recent times, the debates about vintage racing rules, administration by MA etc and endless discussions about class structures and so on have become a rather prominent feature of the forum. My time and effort to manage the forum has been growing substantially and I am seeing a similar sentiment being expressed about the general tone of the place.
These days, I am no longer an active VMX competitor. I still enjoy the old bikes, like to hear and read about vintage, and I still have a couple of 1980 models in the back shed. But, my real passion for now is modern dirt track racing. I just don't have the time or desire to put a lot into OzVMX.
And to be honest, I'm a bit over it.
Now, the ongoing saga of rules and MA and so on has sapped my desire to continue. So, I've spent the past couple of days considering next steps. My inclination was to close it down. After all, Facebook does a great job of doing the same sort of thing. I know a lot of people still enjoy the forum, but many have told me that its negativity, the infighting, and the arguments about eligibility annoy them.
I can see where they are coming from.
So.... Have we reached the end of the line for OzVMX? No, I don't think so, I think it still has a place and I still have enough enthusiasm to try reinvent it to an extent. I have decided to keep the thing open for the near future at least. I'm gonna take it back to its roots. When I started the forum, it was meant to fill the gap left by the loss of Ray Ryan and VMX Magazine. His philosophy was simple - Same Old Dirt, Same Old Fun. Today, Ken Smith and crew run VMX Magazine true to that philosophy. And I think that's what we need to take the forum back to.
Now, I agree that many of the concerns and contentious issues that have been raised are valid and deserving of discussion and resolution and so on. But from here on in, you'll have to find somewhere else to do that. I'm not doing this to run away from the problems or to fold to pressure from MA or anything like that. It's just to firstly make my job of keeping things on track easier and more pleasant, and secondly to make the forum a place of positive energy.
From here on in, the forum is meant to be above all, fun. And in the course of that, informative, inclusive, positive, supportive and generally uplifting. Get where I am coming from?
So please, no more comments or posts about MA, eligibility (other than to ask for guidance), rules, or personal sledging of any person or club or organisation.
I will moderate with a heavy hand, and believe me if it becomes too hard to do that, I will close it down. Not a threat - just a fact of life. I don't need the stress of it all.
So over to you all, enjoy OzVMX but please, keep it civil and keep it fun. Oh, and I will be deleting the Administration of Competition board - that sort of discussion is what I want to avoid from now on.
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C'mon guys, stick to the topic, keep it positive, and the thread will live on.
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even bad advertising is good for any event, so long as it's civil.
if the club pulls this off it will be a hard bench mark to follow, ;D
my only concern is for the grass roots racers being left behind in a the bigger picture, with them bearing the brunt of costs, are the stars paying riders as well, because very few actually contribute to the overall picture of VMX. they should all be treated as equal competitors, because there would be no event without the majority, which are average punters living the dream.
for me, I would rather just see all turn-up and race without any showcasing, mates racing mates. ;D
just don't let it become a wank fest. 8)
cheers Trev
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Funny how attempting to put Aussie VMX on the world stage can be interpreted as a wank fest. I have never heard Fairleigh Castle called that
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You can't compare Farleigh Castle to any event in Australian vmx and never will. We don't have the volume of riders, spectators or available stars.
To think that it can be replicated is ridiculous, from what I've seen in the last 3 years the entry numbers at Conondale are shrinking as the costs go up and the number if laps becomes less for the average punter to accommodate the stars attending the event...
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ok Ted, good point, but you can still have the biggest and best event without all the glorification and comparisons to anything else, all that matters is to continue the tradition and make it a good event for all punters. it would be great to hear about the guy who's doing a 4000klm round trip to ride the event, it would be great to hear about the volunteer who's always watering the track, the people who run the clubs, the guys who stay at the end of an event to pack up, these are the people making the sport, not the trophy hunters.
The prize money is a wank fest, just my opinion.
I'm sure the event, as always will be great, but who makes it great?
so a good conversation about any event is healthy, it's promotes as well as being beneficial for future events.
cheers Trev
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It concerns me how rider numbers are dropping at the bigger events Australia wide as promoters forget to cater for the average punter that makes up the numbers and puts money in the clubs pocket year round..
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I dont know why everyone cant see the forest for the trees , The Conondale Classic is a showcase of vintage motocross , as such you could be average Joe and ride with your mates or be a pro and race at the front, who cares , get to the meeting , ride , have a few laughs , a beer , whatever , if theres 100 plus riders its one of your sports largest events , prize moneys an attraction to lure more riders to the event , its not the be all and end all, why dont you leave the keyboard alone re ; negativity , and enjoy what you have right now , because what Ive seen the sports shrinking , and any effort to build it has got to be a positive.
The sport needs an injection , this is one way to pump it up.
Write what you like after this post , I dont care , but everyone will read it and see just who is in the sport of vmx and wants to keep it moving forward, and who is negative , you be the judges
Scottm
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IMHO the lack of or dwindling of numbers at all events is a sign of the times.
Business is bloody tough at the moment and I don't know anyone that's rolling in dough.
A few years back when we had better times, numbers were up and no-one really cared about club fees or entries being expensive.
Things will roll around, the internet will fail and we'll all be back to servicing customers as we should...and make some spare cash for racing on Sundays.
So, stop the back biting and embrace what is our show piece, for next year it might just be a round of Mr VMX, our new national VMX series.
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great to see your passion Scott, nothing negitive from me seeing Im one of visionaries who made the conondale classic the showcase it is, rose it from the ash's as one would say, ran the event for 6 years with the help of many others. the big names will still come and race because it's Conondale, no prize money required.
the true fundamentels of racing mates gets a bit twisted when someone sticks money on the table, attitudes change.
cheers Trev
now if someone said, all winnings are being donated to Lukemia foundation or canteen for kids, then their on to something, just a thought
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Well the below average punters like me will be hoping the "stars" fall off and DNF so we/I can have bragging rights and say I beat the likes of Bell, Ballard, Kings and even a few queens...LOL
Or I could hang about, and try and keep up from the last turn and pretend I come second!!!
Either way will be alot of fun I'm sure.
Looking forward to having a yarn with ya Trev.
Cheers
Kim ;D ;D 8) 8)
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great to see your passion Scott, nothing negitive from me seeing Im one of visionaries who made the conondale classic the showcase it is, rose it from the ash's as one would say, ran the event for 6 years with the help of many others. the big names will still come and race because it's Conondale, no prize money required.
the true fundamentels of racing mates gets a bit twisted when someone sticks money on the table, attitudes change.
cheers Trev
now if someone said, all winnings are being donated to Lukemia foundation or canteen for kids, then their on to something, just a thought
What's the difference between money on the table or a trophy? How does prize money change ones attitude?
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the average punter, 95% or higher of the field, is there to race mates, drink beer, and have a good time.
Prize money adds another couple of elements, Eligibility Scrutineering of machines,
$70 to raise a protest of machine when there's $1500 on the line, and no-ones going to do that, because it's mates racing mates "right",
bikes being stripped to check for performance enhancing parts, no one would do that, would they?
what do we call fair racing now," get out my way you old gumby, I'm here to win my $1500" that wont happen, because it's mates racing mate's.
I know, we will get a heap of young blokes to race our bikes for us in these races, wow look at them go.
The Conondale Classic is a benchmark event, and as for me, I just want to make sure the "EVENT" is the main part of the competition and not the other way round.
I know I'm wrong Ted, so I wont promote a punters point of view anymore.
THE EVENT WILL BE A SUCCESS, AS ALWAYS, AND THANKS TO THOSE RUNNING IT.
cheers Trev
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You're.not wrong Trev. You are entitled to your opinion. You did call for civil conversation and thats all it is. I was just curious. My opinion is that all events need constant upgrading regarding formats. My club, Heaven, scheduled a club meet on a dead flat oval with no jumps three and a half hours west of Sydney a few years ago and very quickly it turned into their biggest meet. Since then they have introduced team racing, 15 minute GP's and countless other additions to their program, all very well supported. This sport needs creative ideas introduced constantly to keep people interested. Unfortunately mates racing mates is dying a slow death. With this event QVMX are committed to giving the rider and public something that no other club can or has not offered. For that alone they are to be congradulated for putting them on the line and having a real crack
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the average punter, 95% or higher of the field, is there to race mates, drink beer, and have a good time.
Prize money adds another couple of elements, Eligibility Scrutineering of machines,
$70 to raise a protest of machine when there's $1500 on the line, and no-ones going to do that, because it's mates racing mates "right",
bikes being stripped to check for performance enhancing parts, no one would do that, would they?
what do we call fair racing now," get out my way you old gumby, I'm here to win my $1500" that wont happen, because it's mates racing mate's.
I know, we will get a heap of young blokes to race our bikes for us in these races, wow look at them go.
The Conondale Classic is a benchmark event, and as for me, I just want to make sure the "EVENT" is the main part of the competition and not the other way round.
I know I'm wrong Ted, so I wont promote a punters point of view anymore.
THE EVENT WILL BE A SUCCESS, AS ALWAYS, AND THANKS TO THOSE RUNNING IT.
cheers Trev
There should be Eligibility Scrutineering at all Classic/Post Classic meetings. As for pulling bikes down no one is going to do that without a protest and if the protestor loses he or she pays costs.
There are still races there for the average VMX guy the other races are extra.
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Mates racing mates is done every other weekend.
I have suggested several times that the name riders should all be together in one area and a meet and greet of some nature.
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The approved 2015 Maxima Racing Oils Conondale Classic SUPP REGS Are now on the web site .
Www.qvmx.com.au
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Craig Anderson has confirmed he will be riding the Conondale Classic. Multiple Australian champion and former AMA rider.Craig now runs and owns the "Berry Sweet" Husqvarna pro lites team at the MX Nationals. Craig's steed for the Classic ~ a 500 Husqvarna.
pick bits from wiki ~~ Craig 'Ando' Anderson is an Australian motocross rider from West Wallsend in the Hunter Valley Region of New South Wales.
In 2003, Anderson travelled to the United States to compete in the AMA 125cc national championship for the Yamaha of Troy team, he finished the year in seventh place overall and collected one win at Southwick, Massachusetts. Anderson was fired from the team following the season despite having two years remaining on his contract. In 2004, he moved up to the 250cc AMA national championship where he finished in 17th place overall. Anderson realised his future lay back in Australia, so he returned specifically to ride for Honda in the 2005 and 2006 seasons. In 2006 Anderson won the Australian Motocross title for Honda making it his 12th championship
; ;D
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So who else will be riding , this will be my first time to Conondale, Im heading up with a few New South Welshmen , have my party frock all cleaned ;D for the trophy presentation,looking forward to bring the silverware back south and dancing all night , what have you Queenslanders got to say about that ! :P
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Be careful. It's origin season. They will be baying for the BLUEblood
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All good this end boys, just watch out for the puppets ! ;)
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So who else will be riding , this will be my first time to Conondale, Im heading up with a few New South Welshmen , have my party frock all cleaned ;D for the trophy presentation,looking forward to bring the silverware back south and dancing all night , what have you Queenslanders got to say about that ! :P
I hope you have a full back brace Scott, 490 YZ490 knobbies may hurt too much otherwise, when you fall off in front of me and I have "no where" else to go!!!
Point n shoot. Bring lots of beer.
Cheers
Kim
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Husky 500 Twinshock / Evo class
YZ 490 Pre 85 / Pre 90 class
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So who else will be riding , this will be my first time to Conondale, Im heading up with a few New South Welshmen , have my party frock all cleaned ;D for the trophy presentation,looking forward to bring the silverware back south and dancing all night , what have you Queenslanders got to say about that ! :P
I hope you have a full back brace Scott, 490 YZ490 knobbies may hurt too much otherwise, when you fall off in front of me and I have "no where" else to go!!!
Point n shoot. Bring lots of beer.
Cheers
Kim
And fire wood !
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Your fence ;D
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Hey Ted Those Pipes are looking good on the Huskies, I was out there the other day.
The Horwoods are not riding at this stage which is shame Christian won the EVO big bore up there a few years back.
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Yep. Prime8 is going all out. They've got Craig Anderson riding one of them. The pipes look great.
Will be good to see full fields racing bike testing distances for a change. No 4 1/2 minute trophy here ::)
Are you coming up Mick? Promises to be a huge event.
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Just looking through the supp regs.... & what do you know. No 4 Stroke class. Given that the 4 strokes are gaining popularity & have been included in MOMS this year I can't for the life of me think why they have been "EXCLUDED". What gives QVMX?
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Why should 4 stroke get their own exclusive class. 2 strokes don't. They can race in Pre 75' 78, Evo, Pre 85 etc.
They were given a trial class at a recent National meeting to test their viability. How did that go.
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Because we race for fun and it is cool to see a field of thumpers fanging around the track. Four stroke class is always well supported. Gives another option for those cursed with owning one ????
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Well supported?
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Ted, you refer to the recent Post Classic Nats as a trial for the 4 st class. Equally could be read as a test for how the big clubs in Post Classic support their mates at that same event, and how did that go?
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I want a class for red bikes with a left kick start . ;)
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Me too
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next we will need a same sex bike class, maybe a class for bikes who run 40:1 instead of the norm 25:1 oil mixes, or dare I say coloured bike class's, and then we will run them altogether. just run your fourstroke in it's class, they arnt special.
cheers Trev
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As much as I'd personally like to see a separate class for thumpers, there is no need for a 4st class when they are competitive against the smokers anyway ;D Apart from that, I don't think there are enough bikes around yet. Emphasis on the YET
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next we will need a same sex bike class, maybe a class for bikes who run 40:1 instead of the norm 25:1 oil mixes, or dare I say coloured bike class's, and then we will run them altogether. just run your fourstroke in it's class, they arnt special.
cheers Trev
Trev, cast your mind back 2006 or 07 we pushed for that class , ended up a full 40 bike grid, I looked up from the line and saw you standing in the tower, the roar off the line was a sound to behold
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Ted, you refer to the recent Post Classic Nats as a trial for the 4 st class. Equally could be read as a test for how the big clubs in Post Classic support their mates at that same event, and how did that go?
How a class given the opportunity to enhance it's cause at National level can be twisted around to two clubs not attending is complete lunacy. You are becoming quite good at that.
How did that go? Exactly the way the vast minority predicted. I was dumbfounded that you were surprised with the lack of entrants.
Fourstroke and worms have nailed it
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I want a class for red bikes with a left kick start . ;)
No that has to be Red German bikes. There is some Jap Crap with left side kick start too.
As for 4 Stroke class. WHY!!!!
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Ted, you refer to the recent Post Classic Nats as a trial for the 4 st class. Equally could be read as a test for how the big clubs in Post Classic support their mates at that same event, and how did that go?
How a class given the opportunity to enhance it's cause at National level can be twisted around to two clubs not attending is complete lunacy. You are becoming quite good at that.
How did that go? Exactly the way the vast minority predicted. I was dumbfounded that you were surprised with the lack of entrants.
Fourstroke and worms have nailed it
Ted You must know that HEAVEN and QVMX are to blame for everything, including the earthquake in Nepal.
There must be something wrong, I agree with worms and Ted, but I still hate Manly.
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I want a class for red bikes with a left kick start . ;)
Here you go, the bike to suit everyone, a Euro Kawasaki.
If you can get a fleet of these for the Kings and Anderson to ride it might make some of the racing a little bit closer
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a393/gmcloa/Misc%20bike%20stuff/Left%20kick%20kawasaki_zpssb7ejady.jpg) (http://s15.photobucket.com/user/gmcloa/media/Misc%20bike%20stuff/Left%20kick%20kawasaki_zpssb7ejady.jpg.html)
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It would be better to get some postie bikes, they are legal for the Evolution Class. Not left side kickstarter though.
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I want a class for red bikes with a left kick start . ;)
Here you go, the bike to suit everyone, a Euro Kawasaki.
If you can get a fleet of these for the Kings and Anderson to ride it might make some of the racing a little bit closer
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a393/gmcloa/Misc%20bike%20stuff/Left%20kick%20kawasaki_zpssb7ejady.jpg) (http://s15.photobucket.com/user/gmcloa/media/Misc%20bike%20stuff/Left%20kick%20kawasaki_zpssb7ejady.jpg.html)
Love it. like the postie race top gear ran awhile ago......
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I would still get lapped with them riding postie bikes and I wouldn't be any closer to the $1500,
and Yes, put 40 on the line, like the good old days ;) so why not have a separate class. But make it also, 1 bike, 1 class and you choose where you want to ride your machines, that's fair.
cheers trev
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Just looking at the Sup Regs and maybe someone from the club can confirm the meaning in clause 8.2 that states "No engine or bike changes". Is this to do with Frankin bikes or is it about not changing engine or machine for the 3 rounds if they break down.
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So it appears that the QVMX Committee are a law unto themselves, making up classes to suit..... for their own wim! >:(
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I counted 22 bikes on the line for the 4 stroke start last year at the connondale classic, and was tickled pink when wayne skyring nailed the holeshot on his pre 75 xl 420, great to see an old bike nailing all those modern thumpers - tts, xrs and hls etc.
The 4 strokes always been well supported (by the riders) if a bit controversial (amongst the nair sayers) , so a shame to see its not on offer this year.
Always enjoyed seeing Fruity go way faster than any xr was ever designed to at connondale.
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quote "So it appears that the QVMX Committee are a law unto themselves, making up classes to suit..... for their own wim! >:("
Not all of them :(
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As far as giving the 4 strokes their own class - maybe that's why its now in the moms...!
If you judge the success of the 4T class at Bendigo (3 only) where does is leave evo age 40-49 , only 1 entry (me?) so triple the number of evo 40-49 makes it a roaring success!
or more likely a meaningless comparison. ... the fact that there are usually 20+ on the line at connondale would make it pretty viable class I would have thought
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I counted 22 bikes on the line for the 4 stroke start last year at the connondale classic, and was tickled pink when wayne skyring nailed the holeshot on his pre 75 xl 420, great to see an old bike nailing all those modern thumpers - tts, xrs and hls etc.
The 4 strokes always been well supported (by the riders) if a bit controversial (amongst the nair sayers) , so a shame to see its not on offer this year.
Always enjoyed seeing Fruity go way faster than any xr was ever designed to at connondale.
From what I have been told it was from the hard work of the 4 stroke fraternity that it even was included in the event for last year..... In fact a committee member was instrumental in getting it in there... But alas... he isn't on there anymore... I wonder why.....
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I am sorry to see the 4 stroke class missing for conondale.
I'm a bit biased though as I have 2 of them with another on the way.
For whatever reason this subject seems to bring out extremely strong emotion for some but I'm not sure why?
If there is an existing class that always has a full grid at Conondale, why would you get rid of it?
If there were 20 or more guys (or girls) with red bikes & a left hand kicker that wanted their own race & it was popular with spectators then that would be ok with me.
I don't think novelty races were a class back in the day but we have them?
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Some of you blokes really wanna get a life ::) whinge whinge whinge FFS
I bet Aberg could have won another world title on that HL if they had a 4 stroke only class , Bob wright and Alan Clews could have probably got a world title with the CCM if there was a 4 stroke class ::)
There aint this year so get over it, no one says you have to leave your farm bikes at home you just have to race with the MX bikes like it was in the day .
Gonna be a great event inspite of all the backroom bullshit politics and moaners ;)
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Just looking at the Sup Regs and maybe someone from the club can confirm the meaning in clause 8.2 that states "No engine or bike changes". Is this to do with Frankin bikes or is it about not changing engine or machine for the 3 rounds if they break down.
Nothing to do with Frankenstein bikes. It is designed to open the class up a bit. It is there to stop someone riding a different bike in each moto if his original bike is playing up or is falling apart. It will be a test of machine and rider, something I thought you, being a bike builder, would welcome with open arms. If you blow your motor up then you have to fix that motor, no transplants will be allowed. If you break your frame it will have to be repaired, no frame swaps. It is the fairest way to bring the guns back to the field. It's called good pace and reliable well built bikes. Nothing more.
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Some of you blokes really wanna get a life ::) whinge whinge whinge FFS
I bet Aberg could have won another world title on that HL if they had a 4 stroke only class , Bob wright and Alan Clews could have probably got a world title with the CCM if there was a 4 stroke class ::)
There aint this year so get over it, no one says you have to leave your farm bikes at home you just have to race with the MX bikes like it was in the day .
Gonna be a great event inspite of all the backroom bullshit politics and moaners ;)
Is that right??? So your saying all 4 stroke riders are Aberg class riders??? ( They will thank you for the complement) But the reality is they aren't & your the one dreaming William Doe... The Conondale Classic was for the average Joe to have a ride at a great venue.... Now it's looks like it's just for the Mr Motocrosses of yester year... No 4 strokes... people are going to be pissed... Do you remember how popular the Thumper Nats were? Right Sound & earth thumping bikes that bought the crowds in droves! How quickly you forget Mr Doe....
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Just out of curiosity. How many four strokes raced in the four stroke class at the last two QVMX rounds?
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Some of you blokes really wanna get a life ::) whinge whinge whinge FFS
I bet Aberg could have won another world title on that HL if they had a 4 stroke only class , Bob wright and Alan Clews could have probably got a world title with the CCM if there was a 4 stroke class ::)
There aint this year so get over it, no one says you have to leave your farm bikes at home you just have to race with the MX bikes like it was in the day .
Gonna be a great event inspite of all the backroom bullshit politics and moaners ;)
I never saw Joel Smets or Jacky Martens demand a four stroke class in the 90's.
They had to race against riders of equal ability. They just entered......and won.
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I am sorry to see the 4 stroke class missing for conondale.
I'm a bit biased though as I have 2 of them with another on the way.
For whatever reason this subject seems to bring out extremely strong emotion for some but I'm not sure why?
If there is an existing class that always has a full grid at Conondale, why would you get rid of it?
If there were 20 or more guys (or girls) with red bikes & a left hand kicker that wanted their own race & it was popular with spectators then that would be ok with me.
I don't think novelty races were a class back in the day but we have them?
So what are you saying. If a class wasn't a class back in the day and if it is run now "it is a novelty class".
I agree!!!!!
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the 4 stroke class has been a constant for the last 7 or 8 years at the classic, and well supported on the grid.
There have been some great moments, who could forget tony cavell clearing drunks on his b50 (when it was a big jump) and checking out on the rest.I think its fair to say the 4 stroke class has some tradition behind it.
naturally some people will be disappointed that a relatively successful class has has been canned, and there have always been those against it who can enjoy for now.
Some committees will give the riders what they want, some comittees will do what they want.
the circle will always turn..
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Good to see heaven has a four stroke class 8)
Just because there was no four Stoke class back in the day
Doesn't been you can't have one now
Can't live in the pass for ever times are changing look at all heaven clubs new ideas and formats 8)
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what engine did the first ever scrambler/mx have?? ;)
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A very slow one
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It seems there are more than four stroke class missing from Conondale.
Ones that have been run, or available at every event, and in the MOMS for a REALLY long time.
So why is it that there is so much (3 or 4) people, as shown in this thread, making so much fuss over it? Why is there not a big fuss over the other classes?
Or is it that the squeaky wheel gets the oil?
Not having a go at anyone, but it just makes me wonder a little.
From some research, it appears when doing supp regs for events of this calibre a time itinerary has to be put in with then to the applicable governing body, maybe that has something to do with it?
Cheers
Kim ;)
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I counted 22 bikes on the line for the 4 stroke start last year at the connondale classic, and was tickled pink when wayne skyring nailed the holeshot on his pre 75 xl 420, great to see an old bike nailing all those modern thumpers - tts, xrs and hls etc.
The 4 strokes always been well supported (by the riders) if a bit controversial (amongst the nair sayers) , so a shame to see its not on offer this year.
Always enjoyed seeing Fruity go way faster than any xr was ever designed to at connondale.
My laps show only 10 four strokes in rd1, only five in rd 3. I find it hard to believe over 50% of the field didn't run a transponder .
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It's called creative accounting. Quite a bit of that going on lately
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Hi Guys,
I don't get to involved in commenting on the forum although I do enjoy reading peoples posts. I was disappointed when I saw that there was no 4 stroke class at the Conondale Classic this year as I have travelled from Cairns every year to ride at Conondale for either the Thumper Nats, Aust Vets Championships, all Classic Dirt events and the Conondale Classics.
I have made the 4000km round trip from Cairns over 15 times and I really don't see the big deal with the 4 strokes having a class on their own. And yes, I own and race both types. I was one of those 22 - 4 stroke riders who were on the line at the Conondale Classic last year ( I was the old slow fart on the only TT600 on the track which I had fully restored at considerable expense).
The only people who seem to be complaining about it are people who only race 2 strokes, people seem to be forgetting about the fact it should all be about old blokes(generally) out there having a blast riding old bikes, so who gives a shit if it's 2 stroke or 4 stroke and really there are bigger issues in life to worry about than if a few blokes want to ride underpowered, over weight vintage 4 strokes in a specific class..... remember guys it's all about getting out there and having fun and playing nicely together both on and off the track.
I'm not interested in getting into arguments with anybody over my thoughts and comments, let's just all ride our bikes and have fun together - it all sounds a bit serious to me.......
Cheers
Gibo
W63
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This event is not a national championship. The promoting club can run whatever classes they choose to run. Let's now leave that discussion behind.
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This event is not a national championship. The promoting club can run whatever classes they choose to run. Let's now leave that discussion behind.
Hang on... the fun police have arrived...
Come on Graham M... this is healthy discussion... it shows that people are passionate about it... we are only trying to make the sport better & help the asociated clubs give the competitors & public what they ask for...
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And on it ges
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Just get on your bikes and have some fun. If you're really worried about whether or not you will get any prize money or a trophy, get on a modern and take all your seriousness with you. None of us are ever going to ride as good as we used to so just enjoy riding your old bike as fast as you can and roosting the bloke behind you!
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So if I get enough red German bikes we can have a separate class. Now how many can I get?
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You wouldn't want to be an event promoter for quids would you :o
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If your club is the promoter, wouldn't you think it would consider its members first, for their year round support. The Classic is for everyone, but was foremost about QVMX members and their vintage bikes. Growth is great, the bigger the better, but not by excluding classes of core members. Maybe time can be made for them if numbers present, it's your club, get to a meeting and ask!
cheers Trev
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So if I get enough red German bikes we can have a separate class. Now how many can I get?
ABSOLUTELY. ..... ..............not
........unless .........
...........QVMX wants it....
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Looks like the 4 strokes are pretty much a dead class and no talking will sway them otherwise. People have to realize it's "progress", after all they had to make room for pre95 and more Pro's. Next year it most likely will be pre75 and older that will go to make room for pre2000. These new classes are great for buisness with lots of resto's and parts sales.
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So if I get enough red German bikes we can have a separate class. Now how many can I get?
Is that running? If not we can hold that class in the pits ;)
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If your club is the promoter, wouldn't you think it would consider its members first, for their year round support. The Classic is for everyone, but was foremost about QVMX members and their vintage bikes. Growth is great, the bigger the better, but not by excluding classes of core members. Maybe time can be made for them if numbers present, it's your club, get to a meeting and ask!
cheers Trev
trev
I remember a classic, a few years back - Im pretty sure in your time at the QVMX helm, when the decision to run the the dreaded 4t was made to run the class on the day - always eternally grateful for that one!
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What the hell no 4 stroke class, when did this happen why didn't you guys tell me that STINKS
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I think I have found a solution to this grossly unfair exclusion of the 4 stroke MX bike from Conondale.
Work with me here. We could start the day with race #
( 1 ) Mates Vs Mates race on a 4T modified....3 laps
( 2 ) Mates Vs Mates race on a 4T standard....3 laps
( 3 ) Mates Vs Mates on a 4T that just want to ride with their mates......3 laps
( 4 ) Mates Vs Mates on a 4T that just want to ride with their mates and up to 6 strangers....3 laps
( 5 ) Mates Vs Mates on a 4T that just want to ride with their mates and over 6 strangers...3 laps
Stay with me here.
( 6 ) Mates Vs up to 6 strangers on a 4T race....3 laps
( 7 ) Mates Vs over 6 strangers on a 4T race.....3 laps
( 8 ) Mates Vs not yet met but soon to be mates on a 4T race....3 laps
( 9 ) Interstate mates on a 4T race....3 laps
( 10 ) Mates Vs Mates on a 4 T that have travelled more than 4,000 klms .... 3 laps
( 11 ) Mates Vs Mates on a 4 T that have travelled less than 4,000 klms...3 laps
( 12 ) Mates Vs Mates of a mate race ( the possibilities are endless )....3 laps
Multiply all this by three motos over the weekend. Plus there is the actual year era your 4T fits into, plus the Evo class, plus the Challenge races. The right bike could have almost 60 motos to ride over the weekend.
All races would be all in. In the event that more than 3 x 4T actually turn up we would consider splitting them into capacity classes to assure EVERYBODY gets a trophy.
Because this format never really happened back in the day we feel it would be grossly unfair to charge any 4T rider an entrance fee. Can hardly charge for something that never really happened, right.
In addition to the no fee offer all 4T riders will get coupons to use at the Mr Whippy van and the face painting booth. How cool would it be to have XT 250 painted on your melon. We could look into getting a weigh station installed so as to give a trophy to the heaviest 4T. We would also have some knotted rope and an hour glass to determine which 4T is the fastest, thus gaining that bike another trophy.
So as you can see there is plenty of track time and trophies to be had.
I can hardly wait for your thoughts ;D
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Ted your a genius!!!...... This could work!!! :P
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I think I have found a solution to this grossly unfair exclusion of the 4 stroke MX bike from Conondale.
Work with me here. We could start the day with race #
( 1 ) Mates Vs Mates race on a 4T modified....3 laps
( 2 ) Mates Vs Mates race on a 4T standard....3 laps
( 3 ) Mates Vs Mates on a 4T that just want to ride with their mates......3 laps
( 4 ) Mates Vs Mates on a 4T that just want to ride with their mates and up to 6 strangers....3 laps
( 5 ) Mates Vs Mates on a 4T that just want to ride with their mates and over 6 strangers...3 laps
Stay with me here.
( 6 ) Mates Vs up to 6 strangers on a 4T race....3 laps
( 7 ) Mates Vs over 6 strangers on a 4T race.....3 laps
( 8 ) Mates Vs not yet met but soon to be mates on a 4T race....3 laps
( 9 ) Interstate mates on a 4T race....3 laps
( 10 ) Mates Vs Mates on a 4 T that have travelled more than 4,000 klms .... 3 laps
( 11 ) Mates Vs Mates on a 4 T that have travelled less than 4,000 klms...3 laps
( 12 ) Mates Vs Mates of a mate race ( the possibilities are endless )....3 laps
Multiply all this by three motos over the weekend. Plus there is the actual year era your 4T fits into, plus the Evo class, plus the Challenge races. The right bike could have almost 60 motos to ride over the weekend.
All races would be all in. In the event that more than 3 x 4T actually turn up we would consider splitting them into capacity classes to assure EVERYBODY gets a trophy.
Because this format never really happened back in the day we feel it would be grossly unfair to charge any 4T rider an entrance fee. Can hardly charge for something that never really happened, right.
In addition to the no fee offer all 4T riders will get coupons to use at the Mr Whippy van and the face painting booth. How cool would it be to have XT 250 painted on your melon. We could look into getting a weigh station installed so as to give a trophy to the heaviest 4T. We would also have some knotted rope and an hour glass to determine which 4T is the fastest, thus gaining that bike another trophy.
So as you can see there is plenty of track time and trophies to be had.
I can hardly wait for your thoughts ;D
Bit bored are we Teddy, don't cry in yr cornies , there will a 4 stroke in your wonderful 500 race just hope she can keep up LOL, after all a well tuned standard xt250 makes an arm tearing 17 hp
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I think I have found a solution to this grossly unfair exclusion of the 4 stroke MX bike from Conondale.
Work with me here. We could start the day with race #
( 1 ) Mates Vs Mates race on a 4T modified....3 laps
( 2 ) Mates Vs Mates race on a 4T standard....3 laps
( 3 ) Mates Vs Mates on a 4T that just want to ride with their mates......3 laps
( 4 ) Mates Vs Mates on a 4T that just want to ride with their mates and up to 6 strangers....3 laps
( 5 ) Mates Vs Mates on a 4T that just want to ride with their mates and over 6 strangers...3 laps
Stay with me here.
( 6 ) Mates Vs up to 6 strangers on a 4T race....3 laps
( 7 ) Mates Vs over 6 strangers on a 4T race.....3 laps
( 8 ) Mates Vs not yet met but soon to be mates on a 4T race....3 laps
( 9 ) Interstate mates on a 4T race....3 laps
( 10 ) Mates Vs Mates on a 4 T that have travelled more than 4,000 klms .... 3 laps
( 11 ) Mates Vs Mates on a 4 T that have travelled less than 4,000 klms...3 laps
( 12 ) Mates Vs Mates of a mate race ( the possibilities are endless )....3 laps
Multiply all this by three motos over the weekend. Plus there is the actual year era your 4T fits into, plus the Evo class, plus the Challenge races. The right bike could have almost 60 motos to ride over the weekend.
All races would be all in. In the event that more than 3 x 4T actually turn up we would consider splitting them into capacity classes to assure EVERYBODY gets a trophy.
Because this format never really happened back in the day we feel it would be grossly unfair to charge any 4T rider an entrance fee. Can hardly charge for something that never really happened, right.
In addition to the no fee offer all 4T riders will get coupons to use at the Mr Whippy van and the face painting booth. How cool would it be to have XT 250 painted on your melon. We could look into getting a weigh station installed so as to give a trophy to the heaviest 4T. We would also have some knotted rope and an hour glass to determine which 4T is the fastest, thus gaining that bike another trophy.
So as you can see there is plenty of track time and trophies to be had.
I can hardly wait for your thoughts ;D
;D ;D ;D :) :) :) You forgot to put a Twin cylinder class in.. ::) ::)
The Stig
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Ted stop taking the piss, all they have to do is go to the committee and with a show of numbers, they will get their 4 stroke class, because it is a club event isnt it.
cheers Trev, and I would like a blue 4 stroke class, because i like blue
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Ted stop taking the piss, all they have to do is go to the committee and with a show of numbers, they will get their 4 stroke class, because it is a club event isnt it.
cheers Trev, and I would like a blue 4 stroke class, because i like blue
Supp-Regs have been approved.
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Supp-Regs have been approved.
But that doesn't mean they can't be amended... it's still 2 months away!
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by who? the members, MQ, MA and you know as well as I do, the Steward can amend them, add a class drop a class, is it that hard for the boys, not really Kev.
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by who? the members, MQ, MA and you know as well as I do, the Steward can amend them, add a class drop a class, is it that hard for the boys, not really Kev.
It is if your pig headed
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How about a 2T only race
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Just out of curiosity. How many four strokes raced in the four stroke class at the last two QVMX rounds?
So how many 4 strokes raced in the hosting clubs two rounds so far this year?
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we already have a 4 stroke class, it's for sidecars, so just bolt on a 3rd wheel and come racing......and bring a mate.
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Can't answer Ted's question, but Brisbane MCC had 14 four stroke solos at Harrisville last weekend.
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Just out of curiosity. How many four strokes raced in the four stroke class at the last two QVMX rounds?
So how many 4 strokes raced in the hosting clubs two rounds so far this year?
So was there any 4 strokes racing in the hosting clubs two rounds so far this year? I know how many there was so you guys must also know.
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Ted.... you seem to be well informed about how the Qvmx club is run and it's stat's ..... seems strange you know more about the club than I do and I'm on the committee.
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Well Stew you have access to the rider numbers at your meets then. How many 4T riders rode at the two club rounds that QVMX has had this year?
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Ted, how many did you count
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Get a room you two will ya...
Back on track now. Lets get the 4 strokes in for Conondale Classic...
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Get a room you two will ya...
Back on track now. Lets get the 4 strokes in for Conondale Classic...
WOW. The forum can change supp-regs now. There is only one person can amend the supp-reg. it is usually done at the meeting for several different reasons. Why should another class be added for bikes that already have classes they can enter in?
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Get a room you two will ya...
Back on track now. Lets get the 4 strokes in for Conondale Classic...
Why should another class be added for bikes that already have classes they can enter in?
From what I read here, the riders of the club WANT a fourstroke class. Is it so hard to accommodate the riders (members) needs?
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From what I read here, the riders of the club WANT a fourstroke class. Is it so hard to accommodate the riders (members) needs?
Not if the QVMX COMMITTEE don't want them or like em it isn't
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Get a room you two will ya...
Back on track now. Lets get the 4 strokes in for Conondale Classic...
Why should another class be added for bikes that already have classes they can enter in?
From what I read here, the riders of the club WANT a fourstroke class. Is it so hard to accommodate the riders (members) needs?
And exactly how many of the guys wanting their own class at Conondale members of the hosting club
You will be astounded with the answer
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So if enough Maico or Yamaha or Honda riders want a extra class they should be accommodated too.
I'm sure I can get more Maicos for a separate extra class than four strokes.
Ted will you put up some money for a Maico class or Yamaha class?
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Get a room you two will ya...
Back on track now. Lets get the 4 strokes in for Conondale Classic...
Why should another class be added for bikes that already have classes they can enter in?
From what I read here, the riders of the club WANT a fourstroke class. Is it so hard to accommodate the riders (members) needs?
And exactly how many of the guys wanting their own class at Conondale members of the hosting club
You will be astounded with the answer
Maybe the question to ask is why they have given up on the club along with per 75 pre78 and Evo,
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Anyway back to the real story.
Conondale still the best track in Australia, despite there being mention of others.
What bike will Craig be racing in the Pro Class?
How many young guys will there be. Damien Harrison sure stirred things up last year.
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Get a room you two will ya...
Back on track now. Lets get the 4 strokes in for Conondale Classic...
Why should another class be added for bikes that already have classes they can enter in?
From what I read here, the riders of the club WANT a fourstroke class. Is it so hard to accommodate the riders (members) needs?
And exactly how many of the guys wanting their own class at Conondale members of the hosting club
You will be astounded with the answer
Maybe the question to ask is why they have given up on the club along with per 75 pre78 and Evo,
86 riders at QVMX last round. Very respectable numbers i would reckon
Ok i've answered your question. How about answering mine
How many riders in total in the Four stroke class at the first two rounds of QVMX this year ?
Hint: you will only need one hand
How many riders wanting their own four stroke class at Conondale are members of the hosting club?
Hint: Less than half of the above answer
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So if enough Maico or Yamaha or Honda riders want a extra class they should be accommodated too.
I'm sure I can get more Maicos for a separate extra class than four strokes.
Ted will you put up some money for a Maico class or Yamaha class?
I would be all over a cold start Le Mans style Maico only race. It would be a race where outright speed and ability would not be a determining factor. Make it happen next year Kevvy ;D
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I would be all over a cold start Le Mans style Maico only race. It would be a race where outright speed and ability would not be a determining factor. Make it happen next year Kevvy ;D
From what I know all Maico's will require Crack Testing of their backing plate before going on the track because of them exploding in use.... Just another reason why the 4 strokes should be in there instead!
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No we just fit the Maico Only twin bolt setup.
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Honda 4T wins Evo 263+ at the Heaven Evo Challenge held yesterday.
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Yep Dave Middleton on a very trick C&J Honda that wouldn't be Evo legal under your proposed rule changes...
Wonder if he's aware of this? Might ask him..
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Yep Dave Middleton on a very trick C&J Honda that wouldn't be Evo legal under your proposed rule changes...
Wonder if he's aware of this? Might ask him..
Be the same for anyone with a Geoff Morris HL replica or any other home built HL.
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The current rules only mention replacement or replica frames for pre 60 & 65.
This is why they need tidying up, but not to what the QVMX or HEAVEN proposals say.
There is a similar proposal that would allow for things like this to be approved.
I've just made this statement to clarify, not start another debate.
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I'm not talking about the frame..
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John is talking about the fork
Would they be legal under your reading of it?
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My Evo bikes have YZ 465 front ends. It looks like David has interpreted the rules the same as many who will be caught out if it's changed
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I know yours are legal. But don't you think the other fork is just too far out there to be just a persons interpretation
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Not really, they are the same damper rod forks internally as YZ465. I used 43mm CR480 forks in my 79 and 80 CR250'S in Evo a while back because I believed them to be legal and no one said otherwise..
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What a fantastic meeting the QLD Titles were over the weekend! The 4 stroke class was riveting to watch with all 3 place getter winning a race each, the crowd was mesmerized with the closeness of the racing & the sound of the 4 strokes thundering around the track! We definitely need a 4 stroke class at Conondale Classic!
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mesmerized, I think he meant.
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Hey Ted, you game enough to entry the EVo open on your YZ465, be more than happy to take you on , on my girlie trail bike, maybe we could put a few dollars on it what ya say mate.
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What a fantastic meeting the QLD Titles were over the weekend! The 4 stroke class was riveting to watch with all 3 place getter winning a race each, the crowd was mesmerized with the closeness of the racing & the sound of the 4 strokes thundering around the track! We definitely need a 4 stroke class at Conondale Classic!
Never let the facts spoil a story.
Why do the Four Strokes need their own class? They are more than competitive in the other classes. What won EVO 500?
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He's not a mere mortal like the rest of us kev
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Now let's have the facts. Only eight Four Strokes fronted for the Championships. That is according to the official Mylaps results and of that eight, one only rode Sunday. So it isn't an official Queensland Championship.
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There is a lot of difference between a 6 minute flat track race and 3x15 plus minute races on a National level motocross track. Me personally, I can't wait to be mesmerized by the throng of the 4T's.
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Ted your good at talking the talk come and join me in the evo open let's see if ya can walk the walk
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There is a lot of difference between a 6 minute flat track race and 3x15 plus minute races on a National level motocross track. Me personally, I can't wait to be mesmerized by the throng of the 4T's.
Well you may well beat me Ted, I'm only used to those flat tracks be good to see how we go then hey,
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There is a lot of difference between a 6 minute flat track race and 3x15 plus minute races on a National level motocross track. Me personally, I can't wait to be mesmerized by the throng of the 4T's.
Me personally I can't wait to be mesmerized by your skill on a 465 ;)
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What a fantastic meeting the QLD Titles were over the weekend! The 4 stroke class was riveting to watch with all 3 place getter winning a race each, the crowd was mesmerized with the closeness of the racing & the sound of the 4 strokes thundering around the track! We definitely need a 4 stroke class at Conondale Classic!
Never let the facts spoil a story.
Why do the Four Strokes need their own class? They are more than competitive in the other classes. What won EVO 500?
Question would be weather it was the bike or rider that won EVO.
Looks more like the 4 bangers need there own class to give the 2 strokes a chance to shine.
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Now let's have the facts. Only eight Four Strokes fronted for the Championships. That is according to the official Mylaps results and of that eight, one only rode Sunday. So it isn't an official Queensland Championship.
Kev your Mylaps page must be broken, i looked and there were 7 in Sundays race, no worse than many of the 2 stroke classes..
They have a 2 stroke class at modern meetings so what's wrong with a 4 stroke class in VMX?
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The bike is only as fast as the rider ! All my bikes are faster than me ;)
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I must say we'll done to QVMX for running 2 Evo/Twinshock feature races at the Classic with big prize money.. sounds like there will be strong fields in these races with people building bikes which should boost Evo numbers for the future.
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The bike is only as fast as the rider ! All my bikes are faster than me ;)
What are you trying to tell me Brain, that Teds a soccer mum and hides behind the fence,screaming, cant be true. With his profound knowledge of all things VMX one would believe him to be a champ, still waiting to see if hes up to the challenge.
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I must say we'll done to QVMX for running 2 Evo/Twinshock feature races at the Classic with big prize money.. sounds like there will be strong fields in these races with people building bikes which should boost Evo numbers for the future.
Trying something new this year john , some big names riding and hoping to get our sport out there a bit more.
Graham I heard how well the green machine went on the weekend and well done is in order .
Good to see some new body's out there having fun. Will you have the Yz ready as well.
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Ted your good at talking the talk come and join me in the evo open let's see if ya can walk the walk
Looks like you're out of any competition from Ted seeing as there is no response.
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Now let's have the facts. Only eight Four Strokes fronted for the Championships. That is according to the official Mylaps results and of that eight, one only rode Sunday. So it isn't an official Queensland Championship.
Kev your Mylaps page must be broken, i looked and there were 7 in Sundays race, no worse than many of the 2 stroke classes..
They have a 2 stroke class at modern meetings so what's wrong with a 4 stroke class in VMX?
No problem but why do they get two bites of the cherry?
and I don't think the other classes should be two stroke only. Just treat everyone the same. When there was 14 four strokes entered for the Pre 90 four stroke class and only 50% started on the Sunday there is something wrong. I don't think the other classes had a 50% drop out rate.
It isn't how many entries are listed in the program it is how many start.
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You can get 2 bites of the cherry on your Maico if you want.. Just like the guy who won Evo open and pre 90 open on the one bike on the weekend.
The pre 90 4 stroke class is only young, it'll grow no doubt about that...
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You can get 2 bites of the cherry on your Maico if you want.. Just like the guy who won Evo open and pre 90 open on the one bike on the weekend.
The pre 90 4 stroke class is only young, it'll grow no doubt about that...
No I can't my bike isn't eligible for any other class.
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You can get 2 bites of the cherry on your Maico if you want.. Just like the guy who won Evo open and pre 90 open on the one bike on the weekend.
The pre 90 4 stroke class is only young, it'll grow no doubt about that...
No I can't my bike isn't eligible for any other class.
Crap its a pre 90 open class bike and if the host club OK's it your in, What's your problem
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You can get 2 bites of the cherry on your Maico if you want.. Just like the guy who won Evo open and pre 90 open on the one bike on the weekend.
The pre 90 4 stroke class is only young, it'll grow no doubt about that...
No I can't my bike isn't eligible for any other class.
According to the Moms the only class that doesn't permit earlier bikes is Pre78 where it states that they must be 75 ,76 and 77 models. All others just state must be made before the year cutoff.
Probably correct about your Maico though as all the billet major components where made well after 1990.
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I believe the club voted at a general meeting and it was passed by the members, to not include 4 strokes as separate class but to encourage them to compete with their period class only for this event.
ask for a copy of the minutes for the meeting to clear it up if need be, but
it's not fair upon the club to banter this anymore on the ozvmx site, If you want change, put it writing and get to the next general meeting.
A lot of hard work has gone into many clubs to promote vintage mx across Australia, and if you were looking in from the outside, it's seems we are a bunch of self indulged baby boomers, that's right! we are. So let it go, and go to a meeting.
cheers Trev
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You can get 2 bites of the cherry on your Maico if you want.. Just like the guy who won Evo open and pre 90 open on the one bike on the weekend.
The pre 90 4 stroke class is only young, it'll grow no doubt about that...
No I can't my bike isn't eligible for any other class.
According to the Moms the only class that doesn't permit earlier bikes is Pre78 where it states that they must be 75 ,76 and 77 models. All others just state must be made before the year cutoff.
Probably correct about your Maico though as all the billet major components where made well after 1990.
What MAJOR COMPONENTS are they??
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You can get 2 bites of the cherry on your Maico if you want.. Just like the guy who won Evo open and pre 90 open on the one bike on the weekend.
The pre 90 4 stroke class is only young, it'll grow no doubt about that...
No I can't my bike isn't eligible for any other class.
According to the Moms the only class that doesn't permit earlier bikes is Pre78 where it states that they must be 75 ,76 and 77 models. All others just state must be made before the year cutoff.
Probably correct about your Maico though as all the billet major components where made well after 1990.
What MAJOR COMPONENTS are they??
Brakes
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You can get 2 bites of the cherry on your Maico if you want.. Just like the guy who won Evo open and pre 90 open on the one bike on the weekend.
The pre 90 4 stroke class is only young, it'll grow no doubt about that...
No I can't my bike isn't eligible for any other class.
According to the Moms the only class that doesn't permit earlier bikes is Pre78 where it states that they must be 75 ,76 and 77 models. All others just state must be made before the year cutoff.
Probably correct about your Maico though as all the billet major components where made well after 1990.
What MAJOR COMPONENTS are they??
Brakes
Where do the current rules say anything about or define what are major or minor components are. Also I have an email from MA saying the twin bolt brake backing plate is acceptable.
But by alls means put your seventy dollars up and protest.
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Congratulations to QVMX on getting the FIM event support and logos reconfirmed 8) 8)
We know that some behind the scene stuff by a few ??? did cause some concerns for you guys and MQ but has been all worked through and it is now confirmed that the FIM stuff was true and correct all the time.
This meeting has the potential to take VMX in Australia to a new level. Well done and hopefully everyone will get behind our first truly international VMX event 8) 8)
No need for further comment really everyone should just enter, show up to enjoy the show or try and help to make it as big and successful as possible
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Now that the air has cleared, re; F.I.M , how about putting pen to paper, and signing up for the BIGGEST event on the Australian VMX calander, show the rest of the world how great a VMX event in Australia can be.
Forget about whinging about 4s , bring them and race against 2s , personally I love the sound of a fourstroke tapped out , so start signing up , it could be the start of something big
See you at Conondale , Ive been in training hope you racers bring your A game
Scottm
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Is camping allowed for all ?? spectators & riders etc
cheers
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Is camping allowed for all ?? spectators & riders etc
cheers
Yes camping for both is available ! See you there :)
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What is the MOSQUITO , and will it be raced at Conondale ?
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iam thinking I'll do pre 70, pre 78 and pre 95 ;)
Sounds like a good plan so far ;D
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNx4C8UK1hY&feature=youtu.be
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The event this year is looking bigger and better, some new big names of the past like Kim Ashkenazi, Steven Andrew, Craig Anderson and a few more surprises. There will be trials riding in the creek to watch as well, plenty of food vendors, trade stands, prizes and giveawaysl . And offcourse the best racing in the country. Hope to see you there.
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Maxima Racing Oils Conondale Classic so if you haven't entered yet you can email [email protected] Classes are filling up fast across the board.
This event is going to be huge look forward to seeing you all there
Will be holding a working bee at Green Park Conondale Next Saturday 1st August from 8am. If anyone is available to assist please send me a PM.
We have track to lay out - gates to clear and a big marque to put up. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
Catering will be available from Friday afternoon and throughout the weekend.
Caterers are
Conondale P&C
Ice Cream Van
Juicy Jungle for your esssential Coffee and Juices
& Woodfire Pizza"s
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Looking good ;)
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Not long now!!!!
The countdown is on!!
Bikes loaded and prepped 2 stroke at the ready.
Bring it on!!!
Cheers
Kim
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Ditto....all the best for this epic Australian Classic Motocross event may your chains run true and your arm pump be nil... 8)
Cheers A
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http://www.mylaps.com/en/events/1182006
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some "old" names amongst that lot ;D
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Not many people posting after this event , were the vid's and photo's
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Not many people posting after this event , were the vid's and photo's
It's all on facebook mate, heaps of it..
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http://www.mcnews.com.au/conondale-classic-2015/
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http://www.mcnews.com.au/conondale-classic-2015/
Good onya Marcus...... At least someone uses this once interesting place to do something other than use the forum for promotion of an event and then leaves all us non sookface types wondering what where how any why.....
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Hear is 1 Photo
Hope to get some More .
Check out Jack Paterson Flying High ...on a YZ 465
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http://www.mcnews.com.au/conondale-classic-2015/
Good onya Marcus...... At least someone uses this once interesting place to do something other than use the forum for promotion of an event and then leaves all us non sookface types wondering what where how any why.....
Thanks Mark
'Once interesting' might be a little harsh but the absurd difficulty posting photos here is certainly a big disincentive.
Cheers.
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Great pic above... Jacks flying in that one... just shows the old birds can still soar......
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Jack went on to win this race, the first leg of the Prime8Racing International 500 Challenge, against Daryl King, Craig Anderson, Brad Van Barello and Jason Woodrow. Was looking real good for the LINSDALE / TEKNIK RACING entry with one moto Saturday and two more on Sunday. We start bike second kick Sunday morning only to have it stop five seconds later. No spark whatsoever. End of racing for us.
No luck with the 125 either in the LINSDALE TRUST International 125 Challenge. Liam Beverly
holeshots the first moto and settles into third place right behind the leaders after the second corner. One lap later and it throws the chain robbing him of any chance.
Disappointing meeting race wise but was good to see the Conondale Classic first hand. A truly great meet that is very well run.
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Instead of my bike I took my camera......
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Bike next time - I love that track.
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Thanks for sharing those pics, skypig. Those guys are on the hammer. Great to see some of the older machines getting thrown around. Camera work looks sharp.
Cheers,
Alex
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Thanks for sharing those pics, skypig. Those guys are on the hammer. Great to see some of the older machines getting thrown around. Camera work looks sharp.
Cheers,
Alex
Thanks for the positive feedback.
It should be noted that a few girls were "on the hammer" as well. :) (see bottomed out YZ for eg)
Re photography:I was trying to convince my girlfriend that a slower shutter speed and "panning" would make me look faster (well, less slow).
I certainly deleted a fare few. Worth it as I'm pleased with some of the pics.
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Great photography Skypig. You have some talent there and if you ride as well as you aim a lens, there will be plenty of people reading your back number ;)
Anybody know a bit about the KLX with the Yamaha motor in it? I see it has "450" stickers on it. I'd like to find out a bit more about it as most of you would know I dig 4 stroke hybrids.
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That is "Graham" on this forum bike. I'm sure he'd welcome a PM. It's a bored and stroked Kawa 250 motor
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Col has his name correct but the motor is XT250 Yamaha with a couple of mods.
More useless info would be that it is the current Qld Pre90 champion.
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I stand corrected, senior moment. What a credit to the builder, tuner, and rider matching legends on tricked out 500 two strokes
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I stand corrected, senior moment. What a credit to the builder, tuner, and rider matching legends on tricked out 500 two strokes
Amen! Re credits to builder, tuner, rider!!
He was impressively "on the gas"!
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(Not a sharp pic, but nice riding style)
I think the bike cried "enough" during the last race.
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First race, broke a shock bolt DNF. Second race is down for a win. Last race in the lead (bike in front wasn't counted as being in the race) ignition died.
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Great stuff. I really love seeing a 4t stick it up the 2 smokes 8)
Col has his name correct but the motor is XT250 Yamaha with a couple of mods.
More useless info would be that it is the current Qld Pre90 champion.
I knew I could see Yamaha on the clutch cover...... I didn't know XT250's could be made to go so quick!
Then again, anything can be made to go quick with the right pilot behind the controls ;D
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More useless info would be that it is the current Qld Pre90 champion.
Why does the bike ride in Pre90? Is it by choice or by ruling? It looks Evo spec to me
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He rode it in the pre 90 class because the CR 500 honda that had been lent to us had a starting issue so we sub'd the KLX and yes its an EVO ;D
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Love ya work Graham 8)