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Clubroom => Tech Talk => Topic started by: Toolboy on May 12, 2014, 08:40:52 pm
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Gday all,
Had a chat to Les today at VMX Unlimited and he advised that he would no longer sell pro form pipes due to ongoing supply problems.
I have the Pro form system on all my bikes as they are always recommended.
So with my RM400N and RM250Z needed new pipes is the DG system as good???
Or any other alternatives??
Thanks
Tim
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I prefer the pro form pipes
Cheers
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I prefer the pro form pipes
Cheers
Having had both pipes before the Proform wins hands down for me. I believe the old DG pipes were okay going by feedback I've had from guys back in the day but they must have changed as the new ones aren't as good in my humble opinion.
It's a real shame les is giving up on them. Have you tried AMS racing in the USA? Les actually put me onto them for the last PFR pipe I got as I was waiting 6 months from him and still nothing.
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ProForm fit.....DG don't ( always need cutting and bending to fit )
Would only buy GMC from now on
My experiences
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ProForm fit.....DG don't ( always need cutting and bending to fit )
Would only buy GMC from now on
My experiences
Didn't know the DG ones had fitment issues Ted? However I can admit that the first Proform I purchased new did not fit my YZ250D without the cyl head fins at the rear of the head being shaved 8ish mm ... the pipe was really fat through that section and there was absolutely no freaking way was it going on. I even called Les and confirmed he had send me a D model pipe and not an E or F.
Anyway my PFR YZ400 pipe on the other hand, just about fell on :) so a bit inconsistent there for some reason.
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Les today at VMX Unlimited and he advised that he would no longer sell pro form pipes due to ongoing supply problems.
Pot calling the kettle black .....
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Might pay to see if retro rocket makes any for your particular bike, as good or better than pro form, and much better business to deal with.
Cheers
Kim ;D ;)
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Thanks all,
I remembered GMC pipes after I posted the new thread, pm sent.
I have also emailed every contact in the US regarding Pro Form..also Circle F if they make the pipes
Appreciated
Tim
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Email from DC plastics,,,,same problem
Hi Tim,
Unfortunately, I am closing out all of our Pro Form items. Some things take 2 weeks to get and others take 6 months. Due to this, we can no longer carry them.
Thanks,
Tom Claerhout
Sales - DC Plastics USA
www.dcvmx.com
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I fitted a PFR pipe onto my YZ125G, went on like a glove, NP's.
Recently put a DG onto my 82 CR250 & not a good experience. After several hours of juggling, twisting & doing my head in, had to fit the exhaust manifold into the pipe before going onto the bike & then really struggled to squeeze it on. Even then, the pipe is now hard up against the frame & probably need to do something about that :-\
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Gidday Tim ive got a new pro form rm400n/t pipe here if you want it pm me or call 0419040762 Bear
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Bear can you please post some photos,
I want to compare to the Works pipe,
thanks
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Pro form good if you can get one , Modern DG absolute shite in the unlikley event it fits , it will crack after a couple of rides .
GMC ticks all the boxes for me
DG nice bike crap pipe
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e204/tmbill/Bills%20bikes/IMG_00891.jpg
GMC pipe same bike pipe 1000% better
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e204/tmbill/Bills%20bikes/Billsbikes033.jpg
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Maybe Jemco might do something?
http://www.jemcoexhaust.com/products.html
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Waited over three months for a jemco pipe from Ozzy distributor. Nuh, didn't happen. Forget them.
Got GMC to make me one for my RM 125 B. Turned up real quick and works a treat. ;D ;D ;D
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Why would you bother buying overseas when you can support a local buisness .
GMC products are world class and made in Australia , i dont know what gauge steel Geoff uses but his pipes not only work well , fit well , look good, they are bloody strong . In the unlikley event your not happy , the manufacturer is local , speaks a form of English and is very happy to listen and will modify pipes to your requirements . You are buying direct from the factory ( well casa del Morris ) so no middleman clipping the ticket and bullshiting you that its the suppliers fault .
I have fitted GMC pipes to RM 125B , RM 250 B, RM 370B, YZ 125A , MX 125C, RM 400N and will soon get a couple of KX ones .
His YZ 125A pipe is without doubt the bigest performance mod you can fit to any YZ , MX, DT 125 / 175 twinshocker when coupled with a 34mm carb and if you want a GMC air box .
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Yep have to give GMC a plug as well.
My Maico AW400 and CZ have GMC pipes and look bloody great.
Next on the hit list will be the Maico 490.
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His second gen. exhaust system for the 125 B is the secret to these things making power.
Contrary to the Neville who lives north of civilisation belief that he R&D it.
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I will give GMC a plug as well got his pipes fitted to 3 bikes , He also has done my frame fix ups . Iain
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They last forever too !
The business badge on my CZ pipe has his old phone number on it that he no longer uses ;D
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I agree with buying local ..unfortunately GMC does not make the RM250Z pipe or I would of purchased today.
Bear has the ProForm for my 400N
If all else fails I will have to go for the DG pipe, the original fitted has split the seam and waver thin
Cheers
Tim
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shame the owner of GMC is such a wally though - suppose you have to put up with that to get the right product though ;D
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i dont know what gauge steel Geoff uses but his pipes not only work well , fit well , look good, they are bloody strong .
1.2mm actually, and yes thicker than most of the stamped chambers
In the unlikley event your not happy , the manufacturer is local , speaks a form of English
That is relevant to how much Bourbon happens to be in the bloodstream at the time ;D
They last forever too !
The business badge on my CZ pipe has his old phone number on it that he no longer uses ;D
My current phone number (which is back on line again now) is now 14 years old
shame the owner of GMC is such a wally though - suppose you have to put up with that to get the right product though ;D
I'm only belligerent to you Rosco ;D
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Geoff, you don't do a YZ125K pipe do you?
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photos for son ;D Bear
(http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af319/bearvmx/P1010198_zps968f6ded.jpg) (http://s1019.photobucket.com/user/bearvmx/media/P1010198_zps968f6ded.jpg.html)
(http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af319/bearvmx/P1010199_zpsf5498132.jpg) (http://s1019.photobucket.com/user/bearvmx/media/P1010199_zpsf5498132.jpg.html)
(http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af319/bearvmx/P1010200_zps0b822888.jpg) (http://s1019.photobucket.com/user/bearvmx/media/P1010200_zps0b822888.jpg.html)
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Thank you will compare in the morning,
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Geoff, you don't do a YZ125K pipe do you?
No I haven't jigged that one yet.
I can do one but you would have to bring your bike in so I could jig from it.
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[No I haven't jigged that one yet.
I can do one but you would have to bring your bike in so I could jig from it.
Hmmm, 2000km is a little far to travel to drop it over...
Anyone around Geoff's area got a YZ125K they could loan him to jig one from?
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If it would help anyone I'd be happy to forward a pipe from here in the US
I can write any cost you like on the shipping form however if it had gotten lost or damaged in shipment the shipper will only cover what amount that was claimed.
Someone needs to make vintage pipes. There is clearly a market for them
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I need a whole bike to be able to set up properly, jigging from a chamber is a bit hit & miss.
Get the clearance to tight and it won't fit on because it hits on something, get the clearance too loose and it's hanging out in the breeze where it can get damaged easily or just looks shit.
Donor bike doesn't need to be running, it just needs everything where the pipe runs: head, airbox, front guard, fuel tank, original fitting muffler, sidecover and radiators if applicable.
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Hilly has one I think?
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I have got yz125k roller ,will have to have a look at it ,I don't think it has a muffler and sidecovers are ordinary .
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Geoff, you don't do a YZ125K pipe do you?
I was looking through my jigs today looking for something else when I found a jig for a muffler for the 83 125 K, didn't know I had done one!
I even have it up on my website!!
Alzheimer’s must be setting in already
Didn't find a chamber jig though.