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Marque Remarks => Italian (Moto Villa, Beta, SWM etc) => Topic started by: NSR on May 30, 2013, 09:25:36 pm

Title: Best of the 12nothings
Post by: NSR on May 30, 2013, 09:25:36 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/971811_10200680880697228_1209415961_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best of the 12nothings
Post by: oldyzman on May 30, 2013, 09:46:53 pm
What are you saying NSR, I am not the sharpest tool in the shed, but I can only see 6 bikes.
Brett
Title: Re: Best of the 12nothings
Post by: jimg1au on May 30, 2013, 09:48:21 pm
mybe talking about the nothing 125s
Title: Re: Best of the 12nothings
Post by: oldyzman on May 30, 2013, 09:52:02 pm
I see so 125 euro enduro's. What is the RC bottom right?
Hey jim I didnt see you at nepean stg two weeks back... Track was awesome.
Brett
Title: Re: Best of the 12nothings
Post by: Canam370 on May 30, 2013, 10:15:39 pm
I see so 125 euro enduro's. What is the RC bottom right?


Aprilia.
Title: Re: Best of the 12nothings
Post by: firko on May 30, 2013, 10:31:57 pm
Hey Noel....to paraphrase another Queenslander, "Please Explain" ???
Title: Re: Best of the 12nothings
Post by: Lozza on May 30, 2013, 10:47:45 pm
Missed these

(http://www.srcf.fr/cagiva/cagiva125wmx1985.jpg)
Cagiva WMX125

(http://www.rotax-bombardier.com/aprilia/aprilia1.jpg)
Aprilia MX125

(http://www.mxworksbike.com/Gilera_twin_2_750.jpg)
Gilera tandem twin disc valve hubba hubba

(http://www.leguidevert.com/_lgv/img_forum/2009/10/a187844_2.jpg)
Gilera 125 single

Title: Re: Best of the 12nothings
Post by: Rookie#1 on May 30, 2013, 10:56:49 pm
There are too many great bikes in those pictures to suggest that anyone 1 person would think they're all crap? :-\....................would they?
Title: Re: Best of the 12nothings
Post by: Simo63 on May 30, 2013, 10:59:40 pm
So Noel does this mean that you;re going to be dropping that RM125 off at my place in the near future?  It didn't make your top 6 so best I look after it for you :)
Title: Re: Best of the 12nothings
Post by: oldmxracer on May 31, 2013, 06:04:43 am
125 Husky's....horrible....I've owned 3 of the things over the years and wish I still had them all.  ???
Title: Re: Best of the 12nothings
Post by: GMC on May 31, 2013, 08:55:04 am
Husky 125, and Sean has owned it since 77 as well

(http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l626/BrangaTangTang/th_Lookoutcominthru.jpg) (http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l626/BrangaTangTang/Lookoutcominthru.mp4)
Title: Re: Best of the 12nothings
Post by: bigk on May 31, 2013, 09:57:13 am
I like those Husky 125's and have enough to build one. Best get on the job.
K
Title: Re: Best of the 12nothings
Post by: NSR on May 31, 2013, 02:02:27 pm
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mybe talking about the nothing 125s

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Hey Noel....to paraphrase another Queenslander, "Please Explain"

 12nothing is what some of us call 125s.
 
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There are too many great bikes in those pictures to suggest that anyone 1 person would think they're all crap? Undecided....................would they?
??? ???  No bagging, these were the best.  They won 6days not 45min races ;) 


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So Noel does this mean that you;re going to be dropping that RM125 off at my place in the near future?  It didn't make your top 6 so best I look after it for you Smiley
If could find one of these I would.
Title: Re: Best of the 12nothings
Post by: Slakewell on May 31, 2013, 02:58:31 pm
The Eruo 125 in late seventies and early eighties were always on my lust list the TM brand with alloy tank looked so trick.

(http://www.motodacross.com/tm/mx125/1984.jpg)

(http://www.motorspecial.it/sezioni/moto_e_la_storia_del_fuoristrada/moto_tm/tm_cross_01.jpg)

Husky 125 as lovely as they are just plain slow
Title: Re: Best of the 12nothings
Post by: firko on May 31, 2013, 03:42:31 pm
                                                                                                   (http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k495/firko2/77maico125_zpsbb0f2cd4.jpg) (http://s1112.photobucket.com/user/firko2/media/77maico125_zpsbb0f2cd4.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Best of the 12nothings
Post by: 09.0 on May 31, 2013, 06:30:37 pm
The Eruo 125 in late seventies and early eighties were always on my lust list the TM brand with alloy tank looked so trick.

(http://www.motodacross.com/tm/mx125/1984.jpg)

(http://www.motorspecial.it/sezioni/moto_e_la_storia_del_fuoristrada/moto_tm/tm_cross_01.jpg)

Husky 125 as lovely as they are just plain slow
I would assume something got lost in translation with the rear linkage name!
Title: Re: Best of the 12nothings
Post by: 09.0 on May 31, 2013, 06:40:14 pm
(http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa474/090bvb/photo_zps47165f25.jpg) (http://s1199.photobucket.com/user/090bvb/media/photo_zps47165f25.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Best of the 12nothings
Post by: mainline on May 31, 2013, 08:51:51 pm
(http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa474/090bvb/photo_zps47165f25.jpg) (http://s1199.photobucket.com/user/090bvb/media/photo_zps47165f25.jpg.html)

Wondered who bought that.  Very nice.
Title: Re: Best of the 12nothings
Post by: oz555ktm on May 31, 2013, 09:09:42 pm
(http://i1063.photobucket.com/albums/t512/oz555ktm/DSCN9954_zpsb85436a1.jpg) (http://s1063.photobucket.com/user/oz555ktm/media/DSCN9954_zpsb85436a1.jpg.html)

    My 1981 KTM .
   I do love my 125 its a allround good bike at MX and Vinduro

   I only bad thing is that I am 96Kg
Title: Re: Best of the 12nothings
Post by: yamaico on May 31, 2013, 11:03:30 pm
Missed these


(http://www.mxworksbike.com/Gilera_twin_2_750.jpg)
Gilera tandem twin disc valve hubba hubba



Hey Lozza,
What's the deal with the Gilera twin? Did it work?
Title: Re: Best of the 12nothings
Post by: GMC on June 01, 2013, 05:21:08 pm
Pro Link, the name implies that the bike has a Professional linkage system not unlike what the Pro riders might use.

Full Floater, gives the impression that the bike will simply float across the bumps with ease, and from all reports this seems to be the case.

I’m guessing though that the Sticky System was a marketing failure


(http://www.motodacross.com/tm/mx125/1984.jpg)
Title: Re: Best of the 12nothings
Post by: 09.0 on June 02, 2013, 06:00:16 pm
The wogs had some horn bikes. I might print one out and tape it on the Missus' forehead tonight!  :D
Title: Re: Best of the 12nothings
Post by: Slakewell on June 04, 2013, 01:45:41 pm
Maybe we need the non Jap pre 84 125 rider min weight class 90KG  ;D
Title: Re: Best of the 12nothings
Post by: evo550 on June 04, 2013, 05:40:21 pm
Missed these


(http://www.mxworksbike.com/Gilera_twin_2_750.jpg)
Gilera tandem twin disc valve hubba hubba



Hey Lozza,
What's the deal with the Gilera twin? Did it work?

Be interesting to see inside the float bowls of those vertical carbs  ???
Title: Re: Best of the 12nothings
Post by: mainline on June 04, 2013, 08:44:53 pm
I still want one of these

(http://p1.bikepics.com/2007/03/25/bikepics-841251-full.jpg)
Title: Re: Best of the 12nothings
Post by: Lozza on June 04, 2013, 08:49:16 pm
Missed these


(http://www.mxworksbike.com/Gilera_twin_2_750.jpg)
Gilera tandem twin disc valve hubba hubba



Hey Lozza,
What's the deal with the Gilera twin? Did it work?

Either one way or the other worked so good they barred it immediately or was a complete shitter. Floats would be just like the speedway Amal's etc no big deal. He's one I been secretly working on. Tandem twins are the ultimate engine.
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s297/Lozza85_2007/485690_163692310468284_718723401_n_zpsafea3837.jpg) (http://s155.photobucket.com/user/Lozza85_2007/media/485690_163692310468284_718723401_n_zpsafea3837.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Best of the 12nothings
Post by: yamaico on June 04, 2013, 09:58:36 pm
[(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s297/Lozza85_2007/485690_163692310468284_718723401_n_zpsafea3837.jpg) (http://s155.photobucket.com/user/Lozza85_2007/media/485690_163692310468284_718723401_n_zpsafea3837.jpg.html)
[/quote]

Now that's a cool project. Would make a nice dirt track engine too I would expect...
Title: Re: Best of the 12nothings
Post by: Lozza on June 04, 2013, 10:51:18 pm
Easy to get 70+HP from the Type 256 engine, I don't think they would like dirt track to much, dry clutch 'n all. That's not my project I just came across it googling some images  ;D. Barking mad crazy especialy since they built 2 for desert racing I would imagine.
Title: Re: Best of the 12nothings
Post by: JC on June 06, 2013, 10:44:20 am
Missed these


(http://www.mxworksbike.com/Gilera_twin_2_750.jpg)
Gilera tandem twin disc valve hubba hubba



Hey Lozza,
What's the deal with the Gilera twin? Did it work?

If my memory serves me correctly, when Gaston Rahier was riding for one of the Italian manufacturers after his Suz days they developed a 125 twin for him. I've never seen a pic of the bike before but I presume it was this bike (or similar). My recollection is that it did work, or at least showed considerable promise, & got banned cos somebody was planning/threatening to build a 125 triple (I kid you not!) to beat it, so 125 multis were banned from MX to preclude costs escalating to exhorbitant levels

More pics here: http://www.srcf.fr/forum/viewtopic.php?id=803&p=2
Title: Re: Best of the 12nothings
Post by: 09.0 on June 06, 2013, 01:21:49 pm
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threatening to build a 125 triple (I kid you not!) to beat it, so 125 multis were banned from MX to preclude costs escalating to exhorbitant levels 
And then came the four strokes....
Title: Re: Best of the 12nothings
Post by: Lozza on June 07, 2013, 09:42:14 am
My recollection is that it did work, or at least showed considerable promise, & got banned cos somebody was planning/threatening to build a 125 triple (I kid you not!) to beat it, so 125 multis were banned from MX to preclude costs escalating to exhorbitant levels

More pics here: http://www.srcf.fr/forum/viewtopic.php?id=803&p=2

That's code for "Large Japanese factories being beaten by small Italian factories"
Title: Re: Best of the 12nothings
Post by: TooFastTim on June 16, 2013, 11:01:36 pm
Never mind the twin (I thought they had a prototype parallel twin) I'd settle for one of these:

(http://www.mxbikes.com/pics/vbike/DSCN0654.JPG)

That's code for "Large Japanese factories being beaten by small Italian factories"

As opposed to large european factories (Husqvarna and Maico) being beaten by small Japanese factory (Suzuki)  8)
Title: Re: Best of the 12nothings
Post by: PEZBerq on June 17, 2013, 12:59:57 am
Never mind the twin (I thought they had a prototype parallel twin) I'd settle for one of these:

(http://www.mxbikes.com/pics/vbike/DSCN0654.JPG)


Yes if the bike had soft suspension or you are 7 feet tall  ;D ;D One would need a step ladder to get on board....forget about starting it on the track!
Title: Re: Best of the 12nothings
Post by: Mike52 on June 17, 2013, 09:06:34 am
I rode John Hansens [ QLD] 82/125 [ Paul Rooney ] Husky and while it was a bit peaky it  handled very very well.
Just think about going around a corner and it had already done it.
My 81/125 KTM Mx [ water cooled ] had heaps of power every where but was more suited to speedway .
 Pain full/hard work in the tight stuff but you could slide it forever. ;D
Title: Re: Best of the 12nothings
Post by: Lozza on June 17, 2013, 03:17:30 pm
Never mind the twin (I thought they had a prototype parallel twin) I'd settle for one of these:

(http://www.mxbikes.com/pics/vbike/DSCN0654.JPG)

That's code for "Large Japanese factories being beaten by small Italian factories"

As opposed to large european factories (Husqvarna and Maico) being beaten by small Japanese factory (Suzuki)  8)


Henk is awaiting your cheque
http://www.he-ja.nl/usedparts.htm
Title: Re: Best of the 12nothings
Post by: oldyzman on June 17, 2013, 09:55:51 pm
Struthenheigen!