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Title: Mistakes
Post by: Mick D on July 04, 2012, 04:29:12 pm
I have noticed that gurus don't seem to acknowledge or admit them when their err has been bought to attention ::)

I can safely tell you I have made a plenty. Sometimes I am happy to call it falling forward :-[ :)

This is one I hope may save others the same peril, or maybe there is no one dummer than me out there. That one would sure take some liquid consolement.

Anyhow. I bought one of those large size you beaut powered wash tubs from Super-Cheap. At the time I noticed a massive sale on 5 liter packs of hose/off degreaser. Anyhow I bought one, took it home to experiment and see if it was highly flammable or not.
It wasn't, so I went back and bought an industrial quantity. Filled the new wash station with them off course. I thought it was a brilliant idea at the time not to have a large tub of highly flammable liquid in a shed where I am welding and using grinders etc.

Brilliant I thought. Absolutely safety conscious brilliant, I thought.

Who would have known or thought that because it mixes readily with water to hose off, that it would indeed be hygroscopic and suck moisture out of the surrounding atmosphere? then settle on the seal and big-end journals and corrode them. Well not me anyhow :-[ Basically I stuffed five perfect cranks that I had stored in there for safe keeping.

Hard one to fall forward on that one. I hope it happens to no one else.
Title: Re: Mistakes
Post by: EML on July 04, 2012, 04:41:36 pm
Yep*go take some o' that 'liquid consolment'
Title: Re: Mistakes
Post by: Mick D on July 04, 2012, 04:45:09 pm
Now that's just down right cruel.
Title: Re: Mistakes
Post by: Nathan S on July 04, 2012, 05:18:25 pm
I know its not quite what you're talking about, Mick, but I feel the need to confess:

I got really annoyed at a bloke driving along at 40kph the other day - 20kph under the limit. Got pretty annoyed, roared past while giving him death stares.
About when I pulled back to the correct side of the road, I saw the "end school zone" sign...

Bit hard to find a good excuse for that...
Title: Re: Mistakes
Post by: ELC hunter on July 04, 2012, 06:45:31 pm
But isn,t that what lifes about learning be it from mistakes or sucesses, and by admiting it when need be got to enjoy it.
Title: Re: Mistakes
Post by: Kenneth S (222) on July 05, 2012, 05:20:02 am
But isn,t that what lifes about learning be it from mistakes or sucesses, and by admiting it when need be got to enjoy it.

Yes, I've been telling myself that for years now but it seems the older I get I am making no less of them. When does the tide turn and all this learning helps you make less of them, or maybe it doesn't, and that's my biggest mistake, expecting it to change? I'm with you though, enjoy the journey.
Title: Re: Mistakes
Post by: GD66 on July 05, 2012, 07:23:17 am
I know its not quite what you're talking about, Mick, but I feel the need to confess:

I got really annoyed at a bloke driving along at 40kph the other day - 20kph under the limit. Got pretty annoyed, roared past while giving him death stares.
About when I pulled back to the correct side of the road, I saw the "end school zone" sign...

Bit hard to find a good excuse for that...



Well, you ARE a Volvo driver, Nathan.... :D



Bad luck, Mick. Grrrrrrrrrr  >:(
Title: Re: Mistakes
Post by: Mike52 on July 05, 2012, 08:00:57 am
I have noticed that gurus don't seem to acknowledge or admit them when their err has been bought to attention ::)
Who would have known or thought that because it mixes readily with water to hose off, that it would indeed be hygroscopic and suck moisture out of the surrounding atmosphere?

I couldn,t help but notice the word Hygroscopic and was waiting for some dik##ead to tell you that you were an idiot because you spelt it wrong.
Title: Re: Mistakes
Post by: Nathan S on July 05, 2012, 09:27:27 am

Well, you ARE a Volvo driver, Nathan.... :D


Maybe I was just subconciously doing my bit to reverse the stereotype?
Title: Re: Mistakes
Post by: evo550 on July 05, 2012, 10:33:40 am
But isn,t that what lifes about learning be it from mistakes or sucesses, and by admiting it when need be got to enjoy it.

. When does the tide turn and all this learning helps you make less of them,
Exactly 2 hrs before you lose your marbles and forget everything youve learnt in the past 50 yrs....but it's an enlightening 2 hrs :P
Title: Re: Mistakes
Post by: TM BILL on July 05, 2012, 11:06:55 am
I have noticed that gurus don't seem to acknowledge or admit them when their err has been bought to attention ::)
Who would have known or thought that because it mixes readily with water to hose off, that it would indeed be hygroscopic and suck moisture out of the surrounding atmosphere?

I couldn,t help but notice the word Hygroscopic and was waiting for some dik##ead to tell you that you were an idiot because you spelt it wrong.

I think you have spelt Dic##ead wrong  ;)
Title: Re: Mistakes
Post by: John Orchard on July 05, 2012, 11:23:11 am
Mistakes made while growing-up ha ha ....

My Italjet 50, thought I'd check for spark while all the carb parts were sitting in a tub of petrol next to the bike, while I had petrol soaked hands; the bike had a very chard look after that.

The 'hammer', one of my favourite tools after the shifter; damaged crankshaft ends from trying to get flywheels off without a puller.  Broken crankcases from installing main bearings with a hammer rather than a press.

Cleaning the chain on my RM250Z with some form of acid I aquired from somewhere, rolled up at the local track on Sat morning, everyone checking out my immaculately prepared RM, started it up, clutch in, selected first .... chain breaks drops on the ground, very embarrassing.
Title: Re: Mistakes
Post by: Mike52 on July 05, 2012, 03:34:25 pm
I have noticed that gurus don't seem to acknowledge or admit them when their err has been bought to attention ::)
Who would have known or thought that because it mixes readily with water to hose off, that it would indeed be hygroscopic and suck moisture out of the surrounding atmosphere?

I couldn,t help but notice the word Hygroscopic and was waiting for some dik##ead to tell you that you were an idiot because you spelt it wrong.
I think you have spelt Dic##ead wrong  ;)
American spelling.
Title: Re: Mistakes
Post by: VMX247 on July 05, 2012, 05:06:42 pm
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Title: Re: Mistakes
Post by: Curly3 on July 05, 2012, 05:09:18 pm
I put some methanol that was left over after a meeting in my Z50 at Nepean once.
Dad had knocked off for the day, read - drinking and talking shite, and wouldn't syphon any petrol out of the car for me to keep riding in the dark, what could possibly go wrong.
I couldn't see a problem but dad certainly did. :(
 
Title: Re: Mistakes
Post by: pancho on July 05, 2012, 06:29:58 pm
 As an apprentice person I started my '36 Ford V8 with the top off the carby.


  2nd degree burns to both hands and my neck under my chin from petrol alight spurting out of the fuel line.
 

  Good shot dic***d
  Pancho.
 

 
Title: Re: Mistakes
Post by: GMC on July 05, 2012, 09:32:54 pm
77...

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98...

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Title: Re: Mistakes
Post by: Mick D on July 05, 2012, 09:38:54 pm
Geez I think a bit more carefully about bringing the past into the future if I were you ;D
Title: Re: Mistakes
Post by: Canam370 on July 05, 2012, 09:41:00 pm

98...

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Was it you who put the rubbish bins on the road....is that the problem? Shame! Made that poor person run off the road.
Title: Re: Mistakes
Post by: GMC on July 05, 2012, 09:45:44 pm
Was it you who put the rubbish bins on the road....is that the problem? Shame! Made that poor person run off the road.

Ha, bloody Nav travelled sideways faster than it ever travelled forwards that day, shoulda left it there for hard rubbish collection ::)

Geez I think a bit more carefully about bringing the past into the future if I were you ;D

 :D ;D
Title: Re: Mistakes
Post by: TM BILL on July 06, 2012, 05:48:03 am
What did you hit with the DT Geoff  :o :o :o were you carring a pillion or are the rear pegs down for wheelies  ;D
Title: Re: Mistakes
Post by: Davey Crocket on July 06, 2012, 08:11:39 am
I think the abilities where on a diferent planet too reality Bill. ;D
Title: Re: Mistakes
Post by: TM BILL on July 06, 2012, 08:26:38 am
I really like that model of DT 175, 250 and 400  :)
Title: Re: Mistakes
Post by: GMC on July 06, 2012, 08:34:01 am
What did you hit with the DT Geoff  :o :o :o were you carring a pillion or are the rear pegs down for wheelies  ;D

A truck
A casual ride to the local Milk Bar ended up 3 months in a wheel chair. :'(
Pillion pegs must have come down on impact  :o

And it was a horrible model.
Underpowered, 8 stroked everywhere, fat, gobbled fuel like a V8 and the brakes were shit
Title: Re: Mistakes
Post by: EML on July 06, 2012, 08:35:54 am
And to make matters worse--he took photos of his mistakes..... ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Mistakes
Post by: GMC on July 06, 2012, 08:41:13 am
Not quite,
It always seems to be your mates that take photo's of your mistakes.



Bastard mates
Title: Re: Mistakes
Post by: Canam370 on July 06, 2012, 11:38:51 am
Not quite,
It always seems to be your mates that take photo's of your mistakes.



Bastard mates

Guess thats where you learned your skill for being in the right place at the right time for the wrong time for someone else's time of wrongness.............I'm getting confused. Off for a Bex and a lie down now.
Title: Re: Mistakes
Post by: IT400C on July 06, 2012, 01:54:53 pm
Back in 1982 I was doing my usual "rebuild the bike the day before the Enduro" thing..

Registered YZ125J, my first MX bike, and I was 18 years old and just getting into the swing of having to regularly put in new rings, pistons etc..

Anyway, I was only going to put a new ring on the existing piston, so Saturday afternoon I fitted the ring, put it all back together and tried to start her up..

No go – it wouldn’t start.  It had been running perfectly earlier that day.  After trying everything I could think of, I rang Rob Assink (Gaythorne Yamaha owner and tuning guru) at home, and after explaining the situation, he asked what I had checked.  After I told him it had a new ring, but seemed to have low compression, he told me that the ring was probably stuck in the ring groove.  I hadn’t cleaned it out before putting the new ring on.

So I went upstairs to have dinner, vowing to pull it apart again straight after dinner.  One thing led to another and it was about 8pm before I went back down stairs.

Sure enough, the ring was stuck in the groove.  So off with the piston (I’d left the piston on first time through), clean the ring groove, fit the ring, on with the piston, on with the barrel, reconnect the cooling system, put all the plastics back together etc.

But the bloody thing still wouldn't start!  Again I checked everything I could think of...  But still no luck...   

In a bit of a panic at the thought of missing a round of the Queensland Yamaha 6 Day Series, I again rang Rob Assink.  It was only when he finally answered the phone sounding half asleep that I realised it was after 1am on a Sunday morning...   :-[

To Rob's credit, he took the time to ask what I'd done this time, what I'd checked this time etc...  Then he told me to pull the pipe off the bike and shine a torch into the motor...


And THAT is how I learnt what the arrow on the top of a piston is for.............    :-[ :-[   ::) 
Title: Re: Mistakes
Post by: crash n bern on July 06, 2012, 02:48:04 pm
When I was 13 I read an article in Dirt Bike on de coking your two stroke.  So off to the shed  and pull the top end of my TS125.  Holly hell look how loose those piston rings are.  Off to Peter Stevens for a new set of ring.  "Oversize or standard" asked the salesman.  Umm standard I guess.  Bolt it all back together thinking how vlever I was but I could never get it to run right again.  No idea why, it had new rings and should've been good. Went bike less for an eternity until I bought a DT250.

Title: Re: Mistakes
Post by: David Lahey on July 06, 2012, 03:02:00 pm
Despite knowing the alternator was going flat out all the time on my Datsun 1600 due to an electrical problem, I decided it was a good time to check the ignition timing with my el-cheapo timing light (the sort that the sparkplug voltage go through - so they have long HT cables from the No 1 plug cap to the timing light and then to the No 1 sparkplug)
Of course the battery was venting hydrogen and oxygen strongly despite the lights being on high beam (trying to reduce the rate the battery lost water).
As I was leaning over fiddling with the distributor, the HT cables shorted through their el-cheapo insulation to the battery clamp and the battery exploded. Luckily I was wearing glasses, and was in the front yard at my parents place so it wasn't long before I was able to wash the acid off me and the car with the garden hose.
Title: Re: Mistakes
Post by: David Lahey on July 06, 2012, 03:23:06 pm
I was about 15 years old and was fiddling with the throttle slide needle position on my TS185K and obviously wasn't paying much attention to what I was doing because I fitted the slide in backwards. It wouldn't have been too bad if I hadn't started in gear, and had no killswitch. The ignition keyswitch was under the tank on the left side and with all the noise from the screaming engine, I mistakenly thought I could (really quickly) take my left hand off the clutch and turn off the motor with the key. Well it went forwards very fast and smashed into the stern of my Dad's fibreglass boat. I managed to grab the left side of the bars again and with both hands now holding tight, it just kept pig-rooting and repeatedly hitting the boat with the front tyre.
I eventually managed to throw it on the ground and turn the key off. My mum came downstairs to see if I was still alive then quietly went back to cooking tea. Whe my Dad came home and heard the story he had a great laugh. He reckoned I probably wouldn't fit any throttle slides the wrong way around again.
Title: Re: Mistakes
Post by: pancho on July 06, 2012, 05:55:04 pm
 Sometimes the biggest mistake is telling about your mistake.
 An engineer at my 26yr gov. job told us about fitting mudflaps to his kombi.
While drilling into a panel for a self tapper screw this liquid came running down the drill.
 Turned out to be acid from the new battery that he just fitted into the battery box.
cheers pancho.
Title: Re: Mistakes
Post by: Nathan S on July 06, 2012, 06:26:30 pm
One of my mates from tech had a Beetle. After he bought a decent car, it went to his brother on long term loan. Eventually, his brother decided to get a real car, and the old dak dak was put up for sale - my mate took the opportunity to reclaim the good stereo he'd fitted years before.
Halfway through the process of removing the head unit, he smelled fuel.
Turns out that he'd put a self-tapper through the wall of the fuel tank when he'd fitted it, and removing it unplugged the hole and it was now pouring out of the tank and into the back of the dashboard...
  He said "that explained why I started smelling petrol after I installed the stereo".
Title: Re: Mistakes
Post by: OverTheHill on July 06, 2012, 06:47:16 pm
Blimey i've lost count of how many times i've seen that done over the years but the best [worst- but luckily no injuries] was in about "79 i think & by memory we were in Taumarunui [NZ] & involved an RM400N. Guy a couple of cars down from us must've had the slide out & fitted it back in half turn out [must be harder to fit the top & compress the spring], consequently it wouldn't kick start start & the plunger type choke won't work with the throttle open so "Yes" they pushed it. Pits were organized this day as two rows with a [not very wide] gap down the middle. Anyway she took of minus rider & climbed over backwards then did mad doughnuts till someone tamed it. Missed all the cars--kids--& people & gave us a bloody good fright for sure. Cheers Morley [NZ]