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Clubroom => General Discussion => Topic started by: dalesween on September 09, 2011, 08:47:04 pm
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Sorry fellas ,could'nt find the old rugby thread but anyway it's all go, NZ snuck in, looking forward to AUS/ITA on sunday.
cheers Dale.
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Geez no rugby followers all of a sudden?
Dale.
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All watching the rugby down here in Unzud!!!
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Ahhh that's better, maybe it's just us Un Zudders that are into it at the mo.
cheers Dale
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Early day's boy's, but gee we're gunna enjoy pinching the choc's from out of the Black's mouths.
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I here the public transport is not up to scratch ( running late ) as quite a few missed the opening.
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*Australia v Italy......Ugly first half but class won out in the second half. Italy defended well.
*USA v Ireland......USA played the game of their lives. Big USA flanker Tod Clever is world class and played a blinder. Ireland won't be in it at the end, relying on old farts like O'Gara and O'Driscoll isn't enough.
*Taffies v Saffies...Like the USA, I think Wales should have won..pity some poor kicking. The missed drop goal took the wind out of their sails. I can't see South Africa being there at the end.
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I here the public transport is not up to scratch ( running late ) as quite a few missed the opening.
No that is quite the normal level of service, just the opening highlighted it.
Years ago I was standing on the wharf at Freemantle watching their tired old Diesel commuter trains being loaded on a ship..... thinking who would buy those POS .... the New Zealanders did ::) >:(
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Come on All Blacks,let's get a bit of this going tomorrow.(http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx325/dalesween/296094_10150321470482540_683202539_8480891_520863505_n1.jpg)
cheers Dale.
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com'on the 'Blacks.....
Don't know why but I see a Red V Yellow final with a Red winner in an upset......
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Geez EML.. bit early in the day to be drinking :D
cheers Dale.
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Just thro'in it out there. I never get what I wish for so I'm praying hard.
Anyway-it's opening time---somewhere :D :D
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This is gonna get ugly...
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Y'know, I'm not the biggest Quade Cooper fan, methinks he's a bit of a 'one trick pony' but I have this dream of him scoring the winning try and then converting it to put Unzud out of the RWC. Imagine the mayhem that'd cause at
Eden Park no, all over New Zealand? ;D ;D
All of this indignation over Cooper daring to throw a knee towards precious Richie's noggin' is a crock of media driven crap. Because I'm currently reasonably housebound with some health issues I've had the opportunity to catch up on most of the recent tests thanks to Fox Sports 24/7 rehash of old NZ v Australia games and if you watch some of the games from a year or two ago you can clearly see that Cheatin' Richie's been targeting Cooper for as long as he's been in the Wallaby lineup. After a while Cooper started to retaliate and that's when he became the much needed bad boy for the Kiwi's to vent their angst on, much like Aussies did against that nasty piece of shit, Richard Loe a few years ago. We all need somebody to use as a whipping boy and it appears that Cooper's the perfect candidate for it....and it's worked, the dumb bastard's fallen for every old intimidation trick in the book. His playing in the RWC has been below horrible with wayward kicks, missed tackles and awful passes, generally not handling the pressure at all. However if he flukes getting his Mojo back and finally ingnores the onfield taunts and crowd boos, watch out All Blacks. As big a dickhead as Quade Cooper is, when he's on fire he's a dead set match winner. It's just a shame that it looks as if we won't have Kurtley Beale to play off him. Luckily we're not short of crafty backs, our problems have recently been in the scrums and at the breakdown but to our surprise, the big boys actually won the game for us against the Saffies (plus some dodgy refereeing decisions that went in our favour).
If NZ don't win this World Cup, I don't know if they ever can. They're a genuine class outfit with few weak links (if any)but with Carter out they're 10 points less a team, he was that important. Crook foot or not, Richie will still play a blinder and the clash at the breakdown between him and Pocock will be the showdown of the tournement.
My heart says.........Wales 22, France 15.........Australia 16, NZ 12.
My head says.........Wales 22, France 15.........Australia 12, NZ 16.
I'll be watching the Wales v France game at my beloved Randwick Rugby Club on the huge screen this evening.....Go Wales!! ;)
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Firko, no no no........ Wales v NZ Final is my prediction.
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Stu do you think Firko is nervous, Picking on Sir Richard Loe .Compared to last game we have Keno and Reid back,Carter kicking about 65% last year only,is Piri rattling the big boy of love? Any way it should be a good game and another tee shirt wont go astray.
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Australia or Unzud has nothing to fear from crjavascript:void(0);ap French!!!!
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le Coq wins, my prayers are answered so far.... though by the look of it, Firko and I could have played better and would have won that game in a jog. What was Wales thinking ????
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EML i thought you said red/yellow final ,any way whoever wins tomorrow wins ,i did'nt know we had soccer refs here either,red card my arse, yellow card and warning at worst.
cheers Dale.
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Dead right Dalesween, if it was state of origin they would have knighted him AND made him man of the match.
Very untidy rugby from both but similar to what the nthrn hemisphere play, but Wales promised to play a more expansive game with more running of the ball.
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Dead right,Wales with 15 would have put the frogs away ,that red card took the shine off the game for me anyway in the bloody 15th minute or there abouts ,and what a player to lose >:(
cheers Dale.
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The best way to improve Rugby is to take the PEA out of the f-ing whistle.
That'll be our biggest concern, REF.
I certainly don't think the final's gunna be a laydown for whoever wins tomorrow.
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No, they'll play 2 different styles of rugby and the ref will decide who wins-prolly the frogs by a penalty kick >:(
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The Irish ref with the French name Alain Rolland stuffed up big time by red carding the Welsh skipper. It was certainly a dodgy tackle but it really only deserved a yellow card and perhaps a fine later through the judiciary. Having said that, Wales missing 6 kicks is what cost them a berth in the RWC final. They did enough with 14 players to deserve to win but to miss such vital kicks in such a vital game is unforgivable. Both Wales and France were ordinary at best in the dullest game of the RWC. France played the defensive game slowing the ball at the breakdown, not allowing Wales good quality backs to get a clear go. In my opinion France won't be much match for whoever wins today...Australia and NZ have too many quality big game players and on field flair.
Has anybody noticed that there's a Rugby League test on today as well? This would have to be the first time in my memory where Rugby is overpowering its sister game in the media and in peoples minds. Unfortunately the ARU will not follow through with that popularity and Rugby will once again slink back to becoming our country's # 3 code when it really should be #2. The ARU lost its best chance ever of winning over millions of fans after the amazingly successful Australian World Cup when Rugby was on everyones lips. Over the next four years instead of pumping money into expanding the sport and educating the Aussies who'd become fans during the cup, they pissed the millions of profits up against the wall with stupid promotions and not getting the Super 14 free to air TV which would have put the code in every house in Australia......I'm still grumbling about it after 8 years!
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Firko, my son was playing rugby at grammar school at that time and all I can say is they turned into a bunch of big-headed big mouthed louts.
He won "most improved player" in his first season but when he refused to go up a grade becuase he wanted to stay and play with his mates, which is really what the game should be about at that stage, they kicked him off the team-so much for talent spotting >:(
They spent more time telling assembly about how the 1st 15 had an unlucky loss than how Masons Tournament of Minds team won a national prize.
What a bunch of block-heads
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I played rugby for 26 years and know exactly what your saying EML. The old school tie, pukka leather patch culture is still there, especially at schoolboy level. The fact that most of the quality players come from the private school system cries out to me that the ARU aren't spreading their wings far enough. How many great league players come out of the state school system? Pretty near all of them I'd suggest. Imagine if Rugby could draw on the talent pool that goes directly to League..the Wallabies would be almost unstoppable. Imagine also if Rugby super 14 was competing with AFL and ARL on free to air TV instead of being tucked away on Fox Sport 3?
I played both league and rugby at school and the differences in culture and "snobbery" were amazing. It's getting better though. The sooner they realise that rugby isn't the 'game they play in heaven' but is a business competing for the Aussie punters arses on grandstand seats against AFL, League and Soccer, the better the sport will be. It's the major truly international team sport that we're really good at which is the advantage we have over the other codes (league's only played in 3 countries and we're like #16 or something in Soccer). Rugby Union should be the #2 code in the country, it'll never top AFL in the southern states and WA but should be rivalling league for the dollars in the rest of the country.
I love the game but the heirachy running it and the 'old chap' culture shits me no end.
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I agree whole heartedly, the fact that the Storm have done so well in Melbourne proves that ARL do it so much better than ARU.
The fact that Aus is playing NZ for a spot in the final proves how strong we are down here. Also , imagine if the pacific islands could stgop trying to eat each other long enough to form a team in either code-shit we all be in for it then :D :D :D
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Also , imagine if the pacific islands could stgop trying to eat each other long enough to form a team in either code-shit we all be in for it then
Remember the Pacific Islanders (Coconuts) team comprising of players from Samoa, Tonga and Fiji that toured here a few years ago? They were extremely strong, a genuine threat to the big boys. Any hope of making the team a regular player in world rugby was thwarted by the IRB because they "weren't truly represntative of one nation''.....a load of old school bullshit. The real reason was that the best players in the team were playing in NZ, Australia and Europe and their club teams wouldn't release them for non NATIONAL representative tests...no doubt supported by the IRB. They produced the best rugby I'd seen in years...an awesome side.
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black and blue, thats the Aussies and the final!!
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looks like NZ will walk over France in final..... I would scalp my ticket now
On the topic of the IRB the 50% of NZders who don't give a shit about the clearly rigged outcome would like to have the 40 million this is costing the tax payers back.
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Must have been good for the economy somehow Marc ......lots of folk that would never have made the trip are now signing the praises of NZ back in their home towns...hopefully :D
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Ya 2 ring-ins....Pocock and Cooper cost ya the game....maybe the Wobbillies should pick a few more Aussies....that Saffie Pocock played like a true redhead and Dingo Deans should have pulled Cooper as soon as he kicked the ball out on the full at the beginning....the Blacks should wallop the French pigs....I wonder if they'ill have a Rainbow Warrior there?
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What an awesome side...it wouldn't have been right if they didn't win. Their forwards were the key hammering us with unrelelnting pressure preventing the Wallabies from creating any set play. Richie and Corey Jane were magnificent. Oh...and Quade Coopers dumb chip kicks and stupid passes made it tough for his team mates to move forward but it wasn't all his fault. We just weren't good enough.
All in all the Wallabies will improve over the next 4 years...they're young. We won the League though!
the clearly rigged outcome
That's a bit unfair Marc.....there was a lot of blood spilt from both sides tonight....they were as fair dinkum as any game I've ever seen.
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I see DJ lurking here, he'll be peeing his pants with joy....go on DJ....give it to them or are you too pissed to type? ;D
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What an awesome side...it wouldn't have been right if they didn't win. Their forwards were the key hammering us with unrelelnting pressure preventing the Wallabies from creating any set play. Richie and Corey Jane were magnificent. Oh...and Quade Coopers dumb chip kicks and stupid passes made it tough for his team mates to move forward but it wasn't all his fault. We just weren't good enough.
All in all the Wallabies will improve over the next 4 years...they're young. We won the League though!
the clearly rigged outcome
That's a bit unfair Marc.....there was a lot of blood spilt from both sides tonight....they were as fair dinkum as any game I've ever seen.
That was one of the hardest games I've seen in years. Pity Nonu didnt fire and when replaced by SBW I thought yeahhh but true to the mentatity of a league play got himself sitting on the bench ::)
Firko credit to your boys for a hard fought game but you cant win them all. :)
I pity the French. I wouldnt want to be in their shoes right now. All the years they have stuff us up is going to cost them big time and that time will be next Sunday.
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Too many mistakes in the rucks Boy's and that's what cost you the game.
It was a hard game and great defence by both sides.
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Pretty sad comment Marc fx, should learn to be a better loser. ;D ;Dfkn ha ha
cheers Dale.
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One word. Intensity. That's what won NZ that game. Well Done to them. ;)
On the Wales red card thing... speaking as an accreditied Rugby touch judge, I can assure you that a Red card for a seriously dangerous tackle (even if accidental) is MANDATED by the rule book. The ref should be lauded for his ability to play the rulebook as it is written and not bow to the weight of a crowd or occasion. That tackle could have ended VERY badly for the tackled player. The Red card in the ref's pocket is there for JUST THAT VERY REASON.
On the other hand, poor old Sonny Bill was pretty hard done by.... ::)
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Suzuki43 sighted tonight packing scrums with Reuben Thorne in Auckland.
Sends his regards to his mates on the forum, and to the
Boys who keep on raking the muck back up about him.
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Pretty sad comment Marc fx, should learn to be a better loser. ;D ;Dfkn ha ha
cheers Dale.
Hey Dale I have both citizenships so was always going to win. ;) .... regardless I think the IRB should dip into there pockets and cover the cost of there own events..... the Government goes along with it.....bread and circus's
As for Suzuki 43 packing down the scrums with Reuben ..... hes a squirrel gripper from way back and would have a finger up your date before the 5 minute mark. ;D