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Marque Remarks => Suzuki => Topic started by: Trav Man on September 09, 2011, 08:06:47 pm
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As requested from frostype400 in my intro thread here are some pix of my new toy.
It's a 1982 PE250 and the pix are as it is as I picked it up and I am planing to clean it up some more and fix it up a little bit more ;D
(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/Nice_surf/P9050238.jpg)
(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/Nice_surf/P9050236.jpg)
(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/Nice_surf/P9050248.jpg)
(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/Nice_surf/P9050247.jpg)
Still has the factory 1982 stickers on the tank
(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/Nice_surf/P9050240.jpg)
well only a little on this side
(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/Nice_surf/P9050241.jpg)
(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/Nice_surf/P9050224.jpg)
(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/Nice_surf/P9050225.jpg)
I'm chasing the factory tail light if anyone has one :-\
Trav Man
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Great buy Trav, I saw that on Ebay. Well Done.
Grahame.
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Nice bike. I have the same model as you. I hate to disapoint you but that big metal tail light you have is correct for all 82 - 84 Australian model PE's. You are very lucky to have that still on the bike. Definitely hang onto it as they are rare and hard to find.
The 82 has many unique differences. If you do a search on this forum you will find info on them. I have posted it before.
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Nice bike. I have the same model as you. I hate to disapoint you but that big metal tail light you have is correct for all 82 - 84 Australian model PE's. You are very lucky to have that still on the bike. Definitely hang onto it as they are rare and hard to find.
I thought it was the rubber mount the same as the '81' as thats what I kept getting told as I was informed that the '82' 250 was a run out of the '81' as I cann't find any info on a PE250Z in OZ as even on www.alpha-sports.com/suzuki_parts.htm I can only find the 250 to '81'X as if it is the factory for the '82' thats cool as I got a complete working spare with the bike ;D
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Well you were told wrong ;) The metal tail light is correct. Its also the same as the 81 French and Belgium model light.
No it was not exactly a 'run out' or a 81 with new stickers. It was a proper new model (82 Z) and probably has more differences from the 81 than the 81 has compared to the 80. There just was not many sold or made because by 82 they were a bit outdated and the competition was single shock and all the new development went into the 82 175 Full Floater that year. Because USA could have what they wanted, they asked for a Full Floater 175 first. By the time 83 came it was all a bit late and Suzuki started building on the 4 stroke DR line and the 250 and 400 PE were forgotten.
USA did not get 82 250 and 400's. Canada, UK, South Africa, Australia and a few Euro countries did get them. That is why there is no 82 PE250 on Alpha-sports. USA 82-84 175's kept the rubber 81 tail light though.
Have you joined here http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PEmotorcycles/ from here you will find access (read FAQ in files section first) to 82 PE parts book and i think owners manual. If the owners manual is not there then you should find it here
http://pureenduro.free.fr/Mod/250_1982.html
You can even see the worldwide market sales brochure. That came from me. The Australian brochure is the same except it has the blinkers on the bike. I have not been able to find a hard copy of that brochure but i have a large photo given to me of a 82 PE400 Australian brochure to know they do exist.
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Thanks Trav, you have the correct stand on it too.
My 400 is missing that it has the t/x type and your bike still has the correct folder brake lever on it it is a nice original bike, my 400 looks a bit ratty but I am working on that.
I did see that on ebay you did well it is a nice original bike, thanks alot Michael. :)
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Also 82 250 and 400's were not sold in every state of Australia either.
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Nice looking PE 250
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That is quite a nice looking Z you have there Trav and not much to do on it...original enough for me.
NICE ;)
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Well you were told wrong ;) The metal tail light is correct. Its also the same as the 81 French and Belgium model light.
No it was not exactly a 'run out' or a 81 with new stickers. It was a proper new model (82 Z) and probably has more differences from the 81 than the 81 has compared to the 80. There just was not many sold or made because by 82 they were a bit outdated and the competition was single shock and all the new development went into the 82 175 Full Floater that year. Because USA could have what they wanted, they asked for a Full Floater 175 first. By the time 83 came it was all a bit late and Suzuki started building on the 4 stroke DR line and the 250 and 400 PE were forgotten.
USA did not get 82 250 and 400's. Canada, UK, South Africa, Australia and a few Euro countries did get them. That is why there is no 82 PE250 on Alpha-sports. USA 82-84 175's kept the rubber 81 tail light though.
Have you joined here http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PEmotorcycles/ from here you will find access (read FAQ in files section first) to 82 PE parts book and i think owners manual. If the owners manual is not there then you should find it here
http://pureenduro.free.fr/Mod/250_1982.html
You can even see the worldwide market sales brochure. That came from me. The Australian brochure is the same except it has the blinkers on the bike. I have not been able to find a hard copy of that brochure but i have a large photo given to me of a 82 PE400 Australian brochure to know they do exist
Thanks for that ;)
But the second link doesn't work for me as it's not in english
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Thanks Trav, you have the correct stand on it too.
My 400 is missing that it has the t/x type and your bike still has the correct folder brake lever on it it is a nice original bike, my 400 looks a bit ratty but I am working on that.
I did see that on ebay you did well it is a nice original bike, thanks alot Michael. :)
Yeah it's not bad eh ;)
I'm also looking at getting a set of the DC plasics kit for it as the factory plastics are still on the bike but have been painted :-\ but keep the originals
Also I'm looking for a second hand sports muffler for it as the factory is still on the bike and hasn't got a scratch on it ;D so if any one has one they can help out with would be great ;)
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So for those interested below is a list of parts I'm going to replace on the PE and a to do list
Seat cover obviously (ordered)
Rear lower chain block (ordered)
New handle bars and grip (aquired)
Kick starter boot (ordered)
Gear leaver (ordered)
Brake and clutch leaver sets (ordered)
Front brake cable (ordered)
Front brake shoes (ordered)
Rear shocks (sorted as I pick up tomorrow)
Respray engine as it's a dodgy job (done with cheap paint)
New front globe
Exhaust guard
a couple of spare spark plugs
New chain and sprockets
New plastics from possably DC plastics
New decals
Sports muffler so I don't damage the factory one
Sort out the throttle as it's a bit sticky
and give the beast a general once over as it's all good as I have until January to do it all as I can't ride until then due to a knee opperation :-\
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FMF do a aftermarket universal muffler you can find on ebay, but if you want a direct bolt on get a DEP from www.motoduro.co.uk or custom made one from GMC in Australia.
try these
http://pureenduro.free.fr/Div/documentation/PE%20250/manuel%20suzuki%20pe%20250%20Z.pdf
http://pureenduro.free.fr/Div/documentation/PE%20250/part%20list%20SUZUKI%20PE%20250Z.pdf
On the link i posted above in earler reply you just need to click on the 'lien' next to manuel d'entretien and parts list, but anyway the direct links are above now
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FMF do a aftermarket universal muffler you can find on ebay, but if you want a direct bolt on get a DEP from www.motoduro.co.uk or custom made one from GMC in Australia.
try these
http://pureenduro.free.fr/Div/documentation/PE%20250/manuel%20suzuki%20pe%20250%20Z.pdf
http://pureenduro.free.fr/Div/documentation/PE%20250/part%20list%20SUZUKI%20PE%20250Z.pdf
On the link i posted above in earler reply you just need to click on the 'lien' next to manuel d'entretien and parts list, but anyway the direct links are above now
Do you have a link to a FMF pipe that you are talking about
Trav Man
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On ebay USA search for FMF universal muffler. Now this was my experience and i dont know if it was a one off or they are all like that.
I ordered by size and as the pipe OD is 1" & 1/8 i thought i should order the 1" & 1/8 FMF muffler as i assumed they would be like most brands and the size on the packet refers the ID of the muffler inlet. But when i got it i found the ID was more like 1 inch and the OD 1"& 1/8. No good so i ordered their 1" & 1/4 universal muffler and perfect fit, it was 1" & 1/8 on the ID and 1" & 1/4 on the OD so i figured the size they list refers to the OD not ID.
On the PE forum, look in the photos section and go to the folder 'aftermarket parts' in there you will also see a pic of the Universal FMF.
They have a turbine spark arrestor so they are like the orignals and not too loud although the new DEP's are surprisingly quieter than i was expecting too.
Another option is a Universal Answer muffler. I think there are still some NOS ones listed on ebay too.
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No it was not exactly a 'run out' or a 81 with new stickers. It was a proper new model (82 Z) and probably has more differences from the 81 than the 81 has compared to the 80.
Leith, a diff between the PE250X and the PE250Z comes down to
sprocket cover
side stand
brake pedal
chain guide pad
oh and yeah, new stickers...
Luke
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Trav you can still get front guards and sidecovers new through suzuki unfortunetly not rear guards and headlight plastics or tanks.
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try vintage suzuki for your plastics nice gloss finish,dont know if they do pe tho
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sprocket cover
side stand
brake pedal
chain guide pad
oh and yeah, new stickers...
plus more
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Trav...try not to 'restore' that bike, it's way too original. Remember, a bike is only original once. Only replace parts that need replacing with simiilar patina'd parts to keep it looking right. Most people would rather see an unmolested survivor than a blinged up show queen.
USA did not get 82 250 and 400's. Canada, UK, South Africa, Australia and a few Euro countries did get them. That is why there is no 82 PE250 on Alpha-sports. USA 82-84 175's kept the rubber 81 tail light though.
I doubt that Australia got any PE400Z general release. My 400Z was brought into Australia as a pre release evaluation / magazine test bike by Suzuki but from my research it was the only one as Suzuki pulled the plug on releasing them as they figured the PE had become too dated. The bike was supposed to have been put through the crusher but it remained under a tarp at Suzuki HQ for years before a back door deal was done and it passed on to Geoff Eldridge who it tucked away in preparation for the probable advent of Vinduros. Unfortunately he was killed in an accident in the Nevada Rally so his partner Vicki hung it on the wall with some of GE's other bikes at ADB's Warriewood office until the magazine was sold to EMAP and the bikes auctioned off.
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1062154/pesuzuki.jpg)
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Frosty has a 400 Z too so there is at least 2 here!
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I thought Frosty's was an X ??? He's been after mine for yonks so if he's already got one why would he want mine? Michael have you been holding out on Uncle Firko ;D?
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Yeah he has a Z for sure i know that plus a couple X/T's.
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sprocket cover
side stand
brake pedal
chain guide pad
oh and yeah, new stickers...
plus more
Yeah ONE more thing - the fork tubes had a microscopic change. NOTHING else. If you can think of something else, then it would disagree with the parts catalogues for the X and Z sitting on my desk.
Dead set, the Z was a NOTHING bike. It was the 250X with stickers and little else.
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There are more but theres no point getting into argument about it.
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They all look the same to me :-\.
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Luke I strongy agree that the Z was only a case that they left over stock from 1981 production run and it was a mater of a few Cosmetic changes and we will call it a Z. Trying to Sqeeze 3 years out of a bike was going to be a bit of a gamble ???
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Trav...try not to 'restore' that bike, it's way too original. Remember, a bike is only original once. Only replace parts that need replacing with simiilar patina'd parts to keep it looking right. Most people would rather see an unmolested survivor than a blinged up show queen.
I know what you mean as I'm just fixing up things that need doing as I was looking at replacing the plastics so I can keep the originals so they dont get damaged and the same for the muffler as if I had a spare original I wouldn't replace it ;)
Updated list as I went shopping today :D
Seat cover obviously (ordered)
Rear lower chain block (aquired)
New handle bars and grip (aquired)
Kick starter boot (ordered)
Gear leaver (ordered)
Brake and clutch leaver sets (ordered)
Front brake cable (aquired)
Front brake shoes (aquired)
Rear shocks (aquired)
Respray engine as it's a dodgy job (done with cheap paint)
New front globe (aquired)
Exhaust guard
a couple of spare spark plugs (aquired)
New chain and sprockets
New plastics from possably DC plastics
New decals
Sports muffler so I don't damage the factory one (a got a freeby I scored today I just need to clean up)
Sort out the throttle as it's a bit sticky
(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/Nice_surf/P9100253.jpg)
Trav Man
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I agree too...I didn't even know our PE was a Z model until I put photos of it up on the forum and folks started telling me it was some sort of oddity. That prompted me to trace its history and I learned the story I related a couple of posts back. With no intention of offending PE owners, I've never been much of a PE fan, much preferring my Maicos back in the day and these days my Yamaha IT 175 or 250. It's kind of ironic that although I've never been a Suzuki fan, I own more of them than any other make ::).
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Firko, I got mine a while after that is why I haven't been hassling you. ;D
But if you want to sell it you know I would be interested I have been collecting parts for my PE's.
For my 400z the other day I bought a nos tank didn't want to tell anyone till it arrives and thats why I also got a nos speedo etc etc etc.
I have got the rear taillight too and nos lens for it so soon I will start on mine I'd love to buy a nos headlight and rear guard but can't find one, thanks Michael.
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sprocket cover
side stand
brake pedal
chain guide pad
oh and yeah, new stickers...
plus more
Yeah ONE more thing - the fork tubes had a microscopic change. NOTHING else. If you can think of something else, then it would disagree with the parts catalogues for the X and Z sitting on my desk.
Dead set, the Z was a NOTHING bike. It was the 250X with stickers and little else.
hello
nice PE250Z ;D ;D ;D
other thing , the lever assy clutch and brake ::)
le canari
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Sorry to be anal but the 4 stroke DR line overlapped the PE line and came to a halt at much the same time. The DR500 was about the last of the twinshock bunch and got pretty much no updates, though I've been told Germany got two different motors. There was a world wide recession coupled with a jump in the yen's value. That was what killed of development
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Dr 500 ended in 1983 and big brother came along in 1985 being a Dr 600 with fullfloater rear end.
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Does any one know if the PE's came with a tool bag on the rear fender at all or is it just an after market thing as I'm looking for something to carry some basic tools and some minor spares for when I go riding out bush with some mates.
Trav Man
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No tool bag from new but not a bad idea to have one especially with a plug spanner and spare spark plug. :)
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Thats the idea mate along with some short tyre irons I have and a punchure repair kit and spare chain link. ;)
as I don't like the idea of carrying a bumbag
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Okay I pulled it down a bit today so I can respray the motor as it was done with a cheap paint that looked brown when the sun hit it >:( and looked at fitting the aftermarket pipe I got as a freeby but it didn't align the main pipe up properly so I put the factory back on just to discover it now has rust holes in it (about 4) so I think it's time for a new pipe :-\ but on a good note I noticed the carby internaly looks brand new ;) and has a new airfilter and the bore and piston looks in excelant condition 8) and I've got some pix below
Engine before
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Engine after
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(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/Nice_surf/P9170263.jpg)
The carby
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(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/Nice_surf/P9170258.jpg)
and the holey exhaust
(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/Nice_surf/P9170273.jpg)
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Just needs another muffler then not a big drama the originals arent repackable without cutting off the end cone don't throw that one away though it is fixable and it is a good original bike if you ever go to sell it you want all the original parts. :)
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Don't worry mate what ever I replace with aftermarket bits I'm going to keep the originals for it as I know you just cann't get them.
Tommorow all going well I'm going to try and fit the new front shoes and brake cable, new bars and try to sort out the throttle (a little sticky) and see if I can get the brake light switch working on the front brakes as it's there but just doesn't seem to be working at the moment as see what else I can do ;D
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You can still get alot of parts for the suzuki the motor looks good with a respray.
If you check here what ever comes up as available is available through your local suzuki dealer, just check under 80 81 pe250 they are the same most parts.
http://www.alpha-sports.com/suzuki_parts.htm
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Trav,going by your dogleg levers,remove your brake lever and check if it has the cut out near the pivot point of the lever as what the original levers had.
Check my pic in this post.
Geez i cant believe all the work i did to my PE250T in short time and i haven't bothered to buy a chain and stickers to finish it off in the last 3 or so months.
Kind of have major CBF's with m/bikes at the moment :-\
Keep the pics coming Trav!
Thanks everyone
I like the dogleg levers for an easier reach for me
I came up with this tonight,drilled 4x1mm diagonal holes on the rear face of the lever.
I mixed up the resin after Doc's info and my failure to look at the parts catalogue ::)
The back of the lever is semi hollow,that allowed the resin to flow through the holes and fill the hollow area for strength.
I had to go out for a few hours anyway and came home...straight to the shed.....and cut the resin to shape and did the little cutout for the plastic slider.
Put it back together and "pinned" out the wires with my multi meter and it works a treat ;D
I'll keep a look out for the proper levers but this should work fine i think.
Thanks again for your help.
Cheers...mario
(http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa250/hjcoupe/brakelever1.jpg)
(http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa250/hjcoupe/brakelever4.jpg)
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Thanks for that monaro308 as I had a quick look and it is missing that bit so I will figure something out but not today now as it's a nice day out and I'll keep the missus happy and go to the markets and shopping instead. ;)
Does anyone know if the stand spring on the Z is different to the X as my stand is very loose and it has a brand new spring on it for a X
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It shouldn't be different the Z stand is the same besides the bottom foot you can still get a new stand but the t/x type only I tried to order the Z stand but it had superseeded to the t/x model.
I have pe's in the shed with very loose stands if they have been hit and slighty bent they go pretty loose.
My 400T had a heap of slack with the original stand I replaced with a new one and it is a heap tighter also on the stand up top if it is worn where the bolt goes through doesn't help.
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Also any wear/bend in the pins doesn't help.
Hey Micheal,the are a pack of NOS rear spokes for your 400 on ebay ;)
cheers..Mario
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Thanks Mario.
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Dogleg levers are original for 82. You can not buy new front brake light switches as genuine parts unless you buy the whole lever assembly which is not cheap. You can get aftermarket replica front switches which are vertually identical and have the sme white and orange wires. MCS is the wholesaler for them and you local bike shop should be able to help there.
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Well I had a quick look at it and the wires and switch base is there but I undo the 2 screws and there is no internals :( so I'm not sure if I want to replace it and get it working or not bother with it as I'm only going to use it off road but it would be good to have it there for if I did want it :-\
Here is a pic of the switch
(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/Nice_surf/P9180281.jpg)
(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/Nice_surf/P9180285.jpg)
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Yep missing bits, but like i said earler brand new aftermarket replica ones are availble for little $. i think around $12 maybe??? i cant remember exactly but i have used a few before. They come with the case, contact board and internals and sleeved wiring and may even have the screws too. You will find them here in the catalogue www.mcsonline.com.au but you will need to go to your local shop to see if they have any in stock or can just order one in for you. Also try ebay.
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Dogleg levers are original for 82. You can not buy new front brake light switches as genuine parts unless you buy the whole lever assembly which is not cheap. You can get aftermarket replica front switches which are vertually identical and have the sme white and orange wires. MCS is the wholesaler for them and you local bike shop should be able to help there.
I didn't know that Leith,i thought only the 175 had dogleg levers.
Travs lever looks the same as what i put on my 250T because of my crappy wrist.
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Sorry to be anal but the 4 stroke DR line overlapped the PE line and came to a halt at much the same time. The DR500 was about the last of the twinshock bunch and got pretty much no updates, though I've been told Germany got two different motors. There was a world wide recession coupled with a jump in the yen's value. That was what killed of development
Which meant the DR600 of 1985-1989 was a mirage? The PE died, not the DR. They dropped it because they saw the 2-stroke road-legal enduro market was heading for catastrophe, the volume was low, the new emissions laws on the horizon made it clear the generic 4-stroke was the only near-term solution. Suzuki's strategic direction had shifted. By 1981-2 the writing was on the wall for anything except the top-line racing RM's and RG's. As to the Yen value, look at the historical exchange rate charts of Yen vs $US - your jump didn't happen until 1984-85! Sure, there was a rise for six months, but compared to the mid-70's, it was low and short-lived - in my opinion, that was not what killed the PE.
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Yes well, i suppose the DR line was more made to take over the TS/DS line partly. After 81 that was it for TS's in USA and then they brought out DR's in capacities 100cc and up. They really overlapped the PE line by 1 year really as 82 was when the big change happened and they brought out new DR's in under 400/500 capacities. Before that there was just the one off DR370, 400 and 500 spead out from 78-81 but not a 'full line of DR's'. Actually now that i think about the smaller DR's in USA were made to be in some ways more DS replacments than and PE replacements which were pretty much abandoned and the SP's were the TS replacements. Remember the USA DR's were a lot different to most other markets and came out with full knobbies, no road gear etc. UK and Australia and others got the SP's rebadged as DR's but they were not the same as the American DR's. It was probably only when people said 'our DR'S are crap, we want the ones that USA has' that we then got a few of the more 'harcore enduro' DR's in Australia, many specially ordered in by dealers and some even brought up to ADR spec at the factory (fitting surplus PE blinkers was one of the things they did) and in the mid 80's to the late 80's there were offered 2 verions of DR250's for example. There was as upgrade in 36mm suzuki forks in 82 and thats why the PE250 and 400Z has different inner and outer legs (outers look the same as 81's but are machined different inside) and the inners have bushings and all these parts are the same as some of the 82 onwards DR250's. Some new development went into the 84 TS250X and TS125X and in hindsight that should have been the 'new' PE if it had a few less road/trail characteristics but when set up right and in the right hands they were also capable bikes and sold well. New development went into the DR600 and 650 to cash in on the Dakar/Rallye craze at the time which was really big, especially in europe.
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Well I got a bit more done today as I changed the handle bars, Front brake cable, rear shockys, put on the new leavers, and the kick start boot.
Now to do:
New chain and sprockets
New muffler
New throttle and cable
Exhaust guard
New seat cover
New plastics and decals
Fit rear chain guide
so the list is getting shorter ;D
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Okay so I'm chasing some more info I hope you all can help with.
What is the rate of the std front springs as I'm curious for the moment as I think I might need to up grade for my um :-\ stature
Trav
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Oh and also now where to get a new header pipe section as mine is cracked >:(
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Try these guys, give very good service & I think there may already be a few people on this forum using their headers
http://www.smebike.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=9_109&product_id=1320
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Thanks for that mate.
I'll be getting one if I can't get the crack welded as it cracked when I took the factory muffler off as it was a bloody tight fit and had to belt the crapper out of it to get off so I can fit the new alloy muffler :-\
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Well I got the cracked repaired and all is good ;D
Also fitted the new muffler today as well as the new bars and leavers.
Just waiting for the new throttle assy and cable to arrive as then I can get it all back together and ride it
(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/Nice_surf/PA290287.jpg)
(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/Nice_surf/PA290286.jpg)
Updated list:
New rear tail light (aquired waiting to fit)
New chain and sprockets (aquired waiting to fit)
Fit rear chain guide (aquired waiting to fit)
Exhaust guard (aquired waiting to fit)
New seat cover (aquired waiting to fit)
New throttle and cable (ordered)
New plastics and decals
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Okay so I'm chasing some more info I hope you all can help with.
What is the rate of the std front springs as I'm curious for the moment as I think I might need to up grade for my um :-\ stature
Trav
I just read this on the PE forum
We tested again the stock fork springs and they are a very soft 0.32KG/mm and I have a set of Teknik Motorsports 0.46KG/mm fork springs (P/N 27585) to suit the bike arriving to me Friday afternoon.
If you have been reading on there the past couple of days there was another guy who just fitted a set of new springs to his PE. They were BBR Motorsports brand.
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Okay so I'm chasing some more info I hope you all can help with.
What is the rate of the std front springs as I'm curious for the moment as I think I might need to up grade for my um :-\ stature
Trav
I just read this on the PE forum
We tested again the stock fork springs and they are a very soft 0.32KG/mm and I have a set of Teknik Motorsports 0.46KG/mm fork springs (P/N 27585) to suit the bike arriving to me Friday afternoon.
If you have been reading on there the past couple of days there was another guy who just fitted a set of new springs to his PE. They were BBR Motorsports brand.
I ended up going with heavy duty BBR fork springs (5mm longer than stock) for a
2004 Honda CRF 150. I kept the stock spacer, and am running 15wt oil, with no
air. What a huge and impressive difference!...
I just went through it thanks for that
I havn't been on there for a while as I might go the same set up
Trav
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Find part number 27585 at Teknik. They are 27mm OD x 585mm long which is 5mm longer than stock (580) so cut spacer if your fussy or cut even shorter if using emulators. 3 rates available (at date of that PDF)0.44 kg/mm 0.46 kg/mm 0.48 kg/mm I know one guy who is about 90kgs I think and he got the 0.46 for pe400x He said the suspension shop tested the originals to be 0.36 or 0.32 He said they are way better than the stockers and transformed the bike in a big way. My limited research looking at that PDF says they are from 2002 CRF150
Just some more info copy and pasted.
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When I did my RM250T years ago we worked out the spring rate to be .33kg and way to soft, we used XR500 springs and cut to suit, they worked out at .46kg, , I'm 91kg's and it's perfect. Thet are a very long spring and you have to make sure its the right size for the tubes.
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91 kgs hahaha what left leg.
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Its all muscle fatboy. ;D
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Well the new throttle and cable arrived today and now fitted along with the exhaust guard
so now just a couple of things left to go ;D
Updated to do list:
New rear tail light (aquired waiting to fit)
New chain and sprockets (aquired waiting to fit)
Fit rear chain guide (aquired waiting to fit)
New seat cover (aquired waiting to fit)
New plastics and decals
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Okay time for an update
Fitted new rear tail lightis fitted just need to sort out the wiring as the tail light isn't working fitted the new chain and sprockets , rear chain guide, new seat cover and the beast is nearly ready and so am I as I only have a few weeks left to and I can ride again thank F@#K as I'm going bonkers here ;)
Can anyone give me some links or contacts for fork springs please ;)
So I have updated to do list:
Sort out the wiring and fit the indicators as I'm looking at maybe going for full rego :o
New front springs I'm going for .46's
New plastics and decals now a maybe