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Marque Remarks => Yamaha => Topic started by: Iain Cameron on May 18, 2011, 09:48:36 pm
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Spanish Amarda asked for these to be posted . She is known as Black Betty's love child . just waiting on the seat to be repaired .
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;D another pre 70 , so come on gents show us your DT/RTs
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It's Black isn't it :P
8) ;D
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Safest place for that bike is to leave it on the stand....or better still, plant it with the roses. ;D
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here are my dt/rt's
(http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m612/Iain_Cameron/DSC_00112.jpg)
(http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m612/Iain_Cameron/DSC_0072.jpg)
(http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m612/Iain_Cameron/DSC_0001-Copy.jpg)
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I like the white one Ian, well done.
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Not sure who’s photo, not one of mine.
You can see that the other riders are jealous of this beautiful DT 360
Or are they just cranky that he crept forward of the line.
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a393/gmcloa/Misc%20bike%20stuff/heyitsRobertRedford.jpg)
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There's not many times when a DT360 is the gun bike of the group, but it is in that photo. ;D
The look on the faces of those poor four stroke riders' faces is called Envy.
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There's not many times when a DT360 is the gun bike of the group, but it is in that photo. ;D
The look on the faces of those poor four stroke riders' faces is called Envy.
Nah, they're thinking "You're doing a loop on that with trials tyre and 30psi front and rear" :o
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I reckon they've each got a unique personality Iain. Anyone can build a clone bike but to build a bike to your own vision is a cool thing. Who gives a flying fu*k if some people don't like the black 'stealth' bike, it's your bike so do it whichever way you choose. That's whats so great about using the DT1/RT1 as a platform for building a special. They made squillions of 'em so you're not chopping up some unique rarity to achieve your idea of a VMX bike. You'll always get neersayers and charlatans ready to lay crap on your pride and joy. When I built the 'DT1 from Hell' back in 1991 I copped all sorts of crap from everyone, including my best mates. They couldn't see the race potential under all of the candy apple paint and chrome and even after the bike came within half a wheel of winning the pre 70 class at two Nats in a row the narrow minded dicks still laid shit. That's probably why I'm building a series of DT1/RT1 powered specials now. I could have stuck with my tried and race competitive Maicos or any of the other, more competitive exotica tucked away in the shed but I love the challenge in building a racer with the heart and soul of an uncompetitive trail bike. I reckon you do too.
If I can offer up an opinion, I'd keep the unrestored gold tanker as original as you can, keeping the original look and patina, while doing the usual frame chop, and engine and suspension mods. A bit like I tried to achieve with DT1FH. Keep at it mate.................
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1062154/dt1fhfirk2.jpg)
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1062154/dt1fhfirk3.jpg)
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1062154/DT1_StatLHS_ADB0510.jpg)
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1062154/DSC_0133.jpg)
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1062154/IMG_6039.JPG)
And another to come within the next fortnight....then comes the rebuild of the DT1 from Hell.
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Firko that Cheney is a beautifull bike :)
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…the narrow minded dicks still laid shit.
Hasn't it occurred to you that it is nothing to do with the bikes, but they might just like laying shit on you? ;D
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I love em. poor man YZee
same motor and parts crossing about 6 year span, whats not to love ??? you always have parts which i reckon is a total bonus and as there roadies too there are a zillion out there meaning now there cheap as too.
Although, they keep breeding in my shed for parts. :-[
im also in the process of building another one with the chopped frame so i will have a MX rt and a MXdt to choose form..... sweeet
(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/munchboxlive/2010aussietitlesYamahaRT1compr.jpg)
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the narrow minded dicks still laid shit.
Hasn't it occurred to you that it is nothing to do with the bikes, but they might just like laying shit on you?
Yeah, it's taken me 20 years to work it out though ;D.
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DT1MX... ;D
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1062154/DT1MX.jpg)
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"I'll see you and raised you one...." ;D
(http://i323.photobucket.com/albums/nn458/mx250syd/RT1/2ee6_3.jpg)
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Yeah, it's taken me 20 years to work it out though ;D.
But look at it this way - you have given them 20 years of fun. And probably saved some other poor sucker from the same fate. :)
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My one's black with yellow stripes, but it doesn't look as sharp as what i've just seen here.
cheers pancho
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Photo please Pancho
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Photo please Pancho
(http://i323.photobucket.com/albums/nn458/mx250syd/RT1/rt1mx.jpg)
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The genuine RT1MX I owned back in the day was a yellow striper. 1970= yellow stripe, 1971= red stripe.
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Firko that Cheney is a beautifull bike .
Thanks Bill, it should go to match its looks when I get the new motor back from Lozza. He's doing the ports and supplying and fitting one of his trick ignitions. Frank's already balanced the crank so I'm looking forward to taking it to the Nats.
As pretty as she is, wait until you see the other Hindall DT1. I reckon it's sensational. ;)
How about a DT1 in flat track trim......a DT1 powered Sonic rigid frame.
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1062154/1Sonic.JPG)
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This is the DT1 many of us wanted to build back in the day- the legendary Cycle Guide 190lb DT1 from 1971. I wonder what ever happened to it? It was one very trick piece of gear.
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1062154/7110cg.jpg)
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Mark the Sonic rigid frame bike ,is that a f/glass clutch cover ? no kick shaft hole no Yamaha embossed .One day (soon I hope ) I'll get my grubby paws on a Cheney and a Hindal, anyone want to sell ?
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hi gents and thanks ian for posting photos of black bettys love child it could be a bit like arny did that metisse of yours firko ever visit victoria ::). as far as the black goes its a personal choice and it saved a heap of money by powdercoating wheels to get the bike back out there. This bike was at kyabram swap meet had good compression rest was reasonable $350 . Bike was given fresh top end ring only needed new clutch and a fresh two pak paint job along with the homemade pipe which was on bike.New fork seals / wheel bearings / shocks/tyres/seat cover/grips / throttle and controls mcs/pit bike lge footpegs they bolt sraight on springs and all. Maiden voyage on sunday will post more photos after i get instructions tomorrow b4 shots and finished with seat on arrived in mail today.No i havent gone to the the dark side ;D but a bit of variety is great and as long you r enjoying what you r doing then who cares about the critics thats what this site is for bike owes me $1875 dollars cheers chris
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Sorry for giving the credit for the bike to Iain SA. It turned out pretty darn good, especially considering its humble past. You'll be surprised just how well these puppies go. It's become expensive to build the pre '70 icon bikes these days...side piper CZ's have reached legend status, Squarie Maicos are almost in the same league, especially the 350/360/400 version, orange tanker Cappras and boat tail Pursangs are as rare as honest polititians and the British stuff has always been expensive. What he have left is the humble RT1/DT1 (and TS250 Suzukis of course)which are so cheap that you can build three competitive bikes for less than the cost of one of those fancy Euro jobs.
Keep us informed on what it's like on the track........
Mark the Sonic rigid frame bike ,is that a f/glass clutch cover ? no kick shaft hole no Yamaha embossed .One day (soon I hope ) I'll get my grubby paws on a Cheney and a Hindal, anyone want to sell ?
Iain, I reckon the cover is a standard cover with the lettering filled in with bog and sanded back for the smoothie look.
Good luck finding a Hindall DT1 frame, Harry only made 6 and there' weren't too many Cheney Yamahas made either, double figures I believe. I reckon your best bet is to find a Rickman Zundapp roller or bare frame and build a close aproximation of the Mk4 Rickman DT1. The Zundapp frame is very much like the Rickman DT1 and they can be found all the time on eBay....Here's one
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/RICKMAN-FRAME-VINTAGE-RICKMAN-FRAME-/160577013808?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item256322c830 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/RICKMAN-FRAME-VINTAGE-RICKMAN-FRAME-/160577013808?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item256322c830)
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(http://i836.photobucket.com/albums/zz289/TeeBone33/b4blackbetty003.jpg)
This is what Spanish started with...now it's another pre-70 bike out there, built to be ridden & enjoyed - a job well done, Chris!
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Thankfully I can look at what my RT1 should look like just by coming back to the yellow stripie on this post. Unfortunately mine is not even a bit pretty, but as long as I have fun with it and don't do any non-reversible damage or mods to it, in the long distant future somebody can restore it with out cursing a previous owner. Me! cheers pancho.
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poncho beauty is in the eye of the beholder.i have a thing for your rt1, uggly betty
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(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a393/gmcloa/Bonanaza%202010/Bonanza-2010--612b.jpg)
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sold to Fatboy soon to be a pre 70
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Not exactly vmx but it is a dt1
(http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m612/Iain_Cameron/April2009171.jpg)
twin leader front and looks like a disk on the rear
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A bit better
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Firko , it even uses a dt1 frame this I can make . ;D
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Iain, I know this isn't exactly a DT1/RT1 but it's a close cousin. It's a stock framed MX360 Yamaha modified for dirt track. It gives a pretty good idea what can be done to a DT1 or similar on a budget without having to outlay for a proper dirt tracker frame. The steering rake has been brought in to 25 degrees (or so), Honda CBX wheels (they're really light), and a bit of fibreglass bodywork. We're planning to build a TM250 using a similar engineering philosophy. A DT1 would be just as easy.
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1062154/YamahaMX360-7x.jpg)
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looks smaller than a DT1
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Not exactly vmx but it is a dt1
(http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m612/Iain_Cameron/April2009171.jpg)
twin leader front and looks like a disk on the rear
What under the fairing? I see a standard Yammy 7inch front brake, a late '70's RD250/400 tank,. one carby, and it looks like a high pipe on the right. Maybe an AT/CT1 rear hub.
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Mx250 Im told it is a dt 250 motor in there if you look at the top rear eng mount it looks like a dt with the rib up it ,not sure if its reed or not .
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They do mean short "http://www.youtube.com/v/tq4yzaPM1mg?version=3
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They do mean short "http://www.youtube.com/v/tq4yzaPM1mg?version=3
It wouldn't be too hard to be lapped :o ;D