It's funny how all the lemons from back in the day are now some of the most collectible bikes.
Olle Peterson developed both bikes but maybe Suzuki paid more attention
I wouldn't say any Kawa was a lemon..just the opposite..somewhat overlooked is more apt ;)
Much as i would love to own a 74 RH 250 i am more than happy with my 74 KX 250 :) As i read the test they are saying the RH is a better overall bike but definetly a better option for wobblers ;)
There is a whole lot of hype about YZ 250As ??? ive ridden a couple and to be honest :-\ i wouldn't swap for my KX ;)
I rode Brads green stripe Elsinore at the connondale nats and that was a very cool bike 8)
I wonder if the small weight saving the RH has over the KX was worth doing away with the primary kick on the RH ;)
What was the most competitive Euro 250 offering of the period ? Ossa Phantom :)
History KTM won the 74 250 champs. IMO the 74.5 KTM is one of the best pre 75 bikes. Ive ridden most including the RH and YZ , KX etc The RH has more motor than the rest.
What was the most competitive Euro 250 offering of the period ? Ossa PhantomIf there was any standout year for great 250cc motocross bikes it'd have to be 1974. The Honda Elsinore was the biggy of the class not because it was the best bike but because it was the best bike that was easily accessible and affordable. There were a lot of bikes that were better than the Honda but most of them cost hundreds of dollars more to buy. With respect to the previous posters picking the RH Suzuki, it must be said that they weren't that freely available, being mostly vehicles for sponsored A graders. The Joe Average Suzuki racer was burdened with the heavy and by '74 obsolete TM250 which comes up pretty short when compared to the opposition of 1974. Kawasakis were few and far between and despite showing potential were pretty finicky and unreliable. I didn't notice too many at the pointy end of the field until the local distributors got serious and formed a race team in 1975. The YZ250 A/B was in a similar situation to the KX and to a lesser degree the RH. They were expensive and hard to access unless you were a hot shot. The average Yamaha guy was destined to use the solid but uninspiring MX250.
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Were you guys racing in the mid 70's? If you were you'd remember the KX's were not popular because they were'nt much good.
Definitely was & its pretty harsh to say they were "not much good" in 74 - tho one could say that about the suspension. They weren't available in any numbers & the ones that were certainly weren't sitting on showroom floors in 74 for months.
It's funny how all the lemons from back in the day are now some of the most collectible bikes.
Yeah i was being a bit harsh but i remember MXA and other mags not giving them a very good write up.I think thats a good statement :) they are a bike that with minimal cost and modern shocks can be made a very competitive vintage racer :)
I guess the lack of any big names racing them didn't help sales.
They are a cool looking bike though and with what's available now can be made into a decent vintage racer.
Yeah i was being a bit harsh but i remember MXA and other mags not giving them a very good write up.I think thats a good statement :) they are a bike that with minimal cost and modern shocks can be made a very competitive vintage racer :)
I guess the lack of any big names racing them didn't help sales.
They are a cool looking bike though and with what's available now can be made into a decent vintage racer.
VMX 247 - When you say underestimated KX, i was also suprised to see no bids on the 76 kx400
Cheers Brett
In Australia,MK 7 Bultaco 250's & 360's were winning everything in 74,doesn't anybody remember that ?there ain't too many Aust titles in those years won on RH's or KX'sMy memory was a bit fuzzy back when I was 7! I wouldn't think of a Bully being best of the era though. I do underestimate them I suppose being good enough to win on.
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In Australia,MK 7 Bultaco 250's & 360's were winning everything in 74,doesn't anybody remember that ?there ain't too many Aust titles in those years won on RH's or KX'sMy memory was a bit fuzzy back when I was 7! I wouldn't think of a Bully being best of the era though. I do underestimate them I suppose being good enough to win on.
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"My mx250 total RH slayer". That's up for 'dreamer quote of the week.'
The results tell the tale,74 Aust titles Bultaco 1st 125/250/500 & YZ360B 1st All powers no RH's or KX's the RH was a good bike they did not get the same results in Aust it's a myth that the KX was any good,the RH was a special not available to everyone,any one could walk in and buy a MK7 after 75 it's a different story, ;)
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quote: " The results tell the tale,74 Aust titles Bultaco 1st 125/250/500 & YZ360B 1st All powers......"
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MSA website: Brian Martin won the 1974 Australian 125cc Championship at Manjimup, Western Australia, on 2 June 1974, riding a Honda CR125 – the first of many local Motocross titles for Honda.
In 1974, Martin was selected to ride the new Honda CR250 and CR125 for NSW distributor Bennett Honda, rewarding them with the National Motocross Championship.
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Who is right here? Where can we find the official results ?
if you ever get your YZA and MX250 going at the same time and ride them back to back you will realize what seaweed you have been spewing out of your mouth....
1968
125 ...Ray Fisher
250 ...Rob Voumard
500 ...Gordon Renfree
1969
125 ...Gary Flood
250 ...Gary Flood
500 ...Gary Flood
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