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Title: ML 45: Landman's stiff back and cobwebbed arse back in the saddle ...
Post by: Doggy Digger on February 02, 2011, 09:59:29 am: Talk of LANDMAN going to Farleigh jars me a bit. I'd just hope he goes to CD8 as well.
After all these years of "ML DNS", I'd hate to think he'd leapfrog his legion of 1970s fans for the UK event.

We Vics revered the MLTF Milledge Team. Please Mike, come to CD8 too!
Title: Re: ML 45: Landman's stiff back and cobwebbed arse back in the saddle ...
Post by: bazza on February 02, 2011, 06:13:44 pm: A mate of his at C/D was trying to get him there.
Title: Re: ML 45: Landman's stiff back and cobwebbed arse back in the saddle ...
Post by: 2 shocks on February 02, 2011, 06:25:19 pm: Hey Rog,

Had a big talk with ML the other night about the meaning of life & other things & Terry, didnt say anything about Farleigh but you know, Mike's like that, doesnt say much, will give him a ring later on, will keep you posted ;)

Ken Baker
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Post by: Hoony on February 02, 2011, 06:36:55 pm: i remember watching the Milledge team of Landman, goof and karl Bueller at longwarry in 1979 i think.
Title: Re: ML 45: Landman's stiff back and cobwebbed arse back in the saddle ...
Post by: SAABCOMBI on February 02, 2011, 06:53:00 pm: I have been involve with vintage ever since it started and l have race against Mike Landman over the years, but he has showed no interest in the vintage race meetings here in Victoria, so why are you making a big fuss over this guy. Big deal if he goes to the UK, who cares, Ron Dinsdale rates higher on my list as a contender.
Title: Re: ML 45: Landman's stiff back and cobwebbed arse back in the saddle ...
Post by: JohnnyO on February 02, 2011, 06:54:43 pm: It would be great to see more guys like Landman, the Floods, Cramer, Dinsdale, Goof etc at Classic Dirt... As it is now it's pretty much the same crew every year.
Title: Re: ML 45: Landman's stiff back and cobwebbed arse back in the saddle ...
Post by: SAABCOMBI on February 02, 2011, 07:16:33 pm: Ron dinsdale came and raced Rob Watson Bultaco each year, its was great to see and you here about the Amercian Champion and the UK champions racing the vintage, Cramer, would only come out if their was a dollar in it. Gary Flood has showed a couple time, Ray fisher he comes out only on big events, Gary Adam came out when his mates drags him along, but l must say early stages of vintage meetings he did ride a bucket classes and he did enjoy the fun of that. Who cares if they are slow, it was apart of our lifes and history, sorry fellows l am over it, l don`t lick anybody`s arse. We put these Champion on pedicel, and what do they give back, we all have raced and rubbed shoulders with these guy`s over the years from the 60`s to the 80`s.
Sure they where quick in their day and we where too, but know one cares about us, these guy`s had good sponsorship and support to do it. Tell me would mike Landman go out and buy for the first time a vintage bike and restore it or even race it, he would expect it to be handed to him on a platter, and their is pleny out their that would get on their knees and do just that. :'(
Title: Re: ML 45: Landman's stiff back and cobwebbed arse back in the saddle ...
Post by: BAHNZY on February 02, 2011, 07:18:35 pm: Quote from: Swedish Connection on February 02, 2011, 06:53:00 pm
I have been involve with vintage ever since it started and l have race against Mike Landman over the years, but he has showed no interest in the vintage race meetings here in Victoria, so why are you making a big fuss over this guy. Big deal if he goes to the UK, who cares, Ron Dinsdale rates higher on my list as a contender.

Why the lack of respect?
What Mike does is his business and why should we pass judgement on what we think he should do (or not)
I know Mike and he is one of the more genuine people that exist in our sport.

Rod
Title: Re: ML 45: Landman's stiff back and cobwebbed arse back in the saddle ...
Post by: SAABCOMBI on February 02, 2011, 07:32:49 pm: Rod, I have respect for Mike as a rider and person, his passion regarding vintage motorcross and promoting vintage just by attending the events as a rider or as a person at times would do more for our sport and its others too. We see champion like the great man himself Roger De Coster, When l got my photo taken at Broadford with Brad Lackey it was a dream come true, And these fellows attend vintage race meeting all the time. I rest my case.
Title: Re: ML 45: Landman's stiff back and cobwebbed arse back in the saddle ...
Post by: VMX247 on February 02, 2011, 08:28:45 pm: and the other side of the coin.....these riders rode fast and won back in the day ,but dont give too hoots for the old bikes now!!
Its been mentioned before on here about coming back into the fold.
They rode moderns back in the day and not vintage today :)
cheers A
Title: Re: ML 45: Landman's stiff back and cobwebbed arse back in the saddle ...
Post by: Stan S on February 02, 2011, 09:22:35 pm: David, I think you are being very hard on the champions of the past. If their circumstances have been such that they have other more important things to do with their life and not be involved with VMX, I don't think they deserve to be slagged off on this forum. Mike has raised a couple of very quick late model motocross racer sons and I am sure that they have taken up many of the last 10 or 12 years or so. Slowly we are seeing some of the legends of our sport becoming interested such as Ray Vandenberg, Gary Armstrong etc etc and even today Anton Alers made his first posts on the forum.
I think Roger Harvey is making a concerted effort to contact some of these past champions and try and get them involved, with some success I believe.

Stan.
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Post by: SAABCOMBI on February 02, 2011, 10:02:22 pm: Well l may have come down on them a bit hard stan, and l am sorry for that, l do get a little titted off at times and it would be very nice to see them out there having ago. and by the way, what name does Anton come under on this forum, Husky 360 1975-76 number 3. Sorry ML for kicking your arse at seaford in the 125 class 1974, l did come back for the final 125 but it was to hot that sunday so l went to the beach with my other mate. Mike landman #45 l would like you to come and have a play with us old fellows, if you are going to UK Classic kick some but and have fun, and if you get the vintage bug back i hope you will consider to race at the Australia Vintage titles.
sorry David #46
Title: Re: ML 45: Landman's stiff back and cobwebbed arse back in the saddle ...
Post by: Stan S on February 02, 2011, 10:08:47 pm: Quote from: Swedish Connection on February 02, 2011, 10:02:22 pm
Well l may have come down on them a bit hard stan, and l am sorry for that, l do get a little titted off at times and it would be very nice to see them out there having ago. and by the way, what name does Anton come under on this forum, Husky 360 1975-76 number 3. Sorry ML for kicking your arse at seaford in the 125 class 1974, l did come back for the final 125 but it was to hot that sunday so l went to the beach with my other mate. Mike landman #45 l would like you to come and have a play with us old fellows, if you are going to UK Classic kick some but and have fun, and if you get the vintage bug back i hope you will consider to race at the Australia Vintage titles.
sorry David #46

David Anton uses his own name. (Anton)
Title: Re: ML 45: Landman's stiff back and cobwebbed arse back in the saddle ...
Post by: SAABCOMBI on February 02, 2011, 10:21:28 pm: Stan, l don`t recall seeing it. Welcome Anton, very nice to see that you are part of this forum.
Title: Re: ML 45: Landman's stiff back and cobwebbed arse back in the saddle ...
Post by: Stan S on February 02, 2011, 10:44:43 pm: Quote from: Swedish Connection on February 02, 2011, 10:02:22 pm
Sorry ML for kicking your arse at seaford in the 125 class 1974, l did come back for the final 125 but it was to hot that sunday so l went to the beach with my other mate.

Dave, Anton's first couple of posts were on the "1975 Wallan International Program thread"
By the way what race was it at the 27th of Jan. 1974 Seaford meeting that you beat Mike as I have the program here and can't find that result but I see you were #115 non expert at that meeting ???
Do you want me to post that program?

Stan.
Title: Re: ML 45: Landman's stiff back and cobwebbed arse back in the saddle ...
Post by: VMX247 on February 02, 2011, 10:48:18 pm: Sorry StanS bet ya to the holshot ;D ;)
Any rider or pit crew that braved that downhill or watched brave it , is most welcome to join us lot at CD8 ,I reckon ;D

Quote from: Stan S on January 29, 2010, 03:09:50 pm
(http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af39/gf079/TheBertFloodInternational1975-1.jpg)

(http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af39/gf079/TheBertFloodInternational1975ent-1.jpg)

(http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af39/gf079/TheBertFloodInternational1975fea-1.jpg)

From the left is #49 Dennis Curran,#94 Steve Cramer,#79 Greg Flood,#9 Bernie Ryan,#21 Hans Applegren,#3 Anton Alers,#7 Mick Nicol.

(http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af39/gf079/Image12-1.jpg)

Not often you get the Prime Minister of the day presenting the trophys
Malcolm Fraser, Bert Flood, Vic Allan

(http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af39/gf079/Image11-1.jpg)

Gary Flood

(http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af39/gf079/Image09-1.jpg)
Title: Re: ML 45: Landman's stiff back and cobwebbed arse back in the saddle ...
Post by: Stan S on February 02, 2011, 11:50:36 pm: Quote from: VMX247 on February 02, 2011, 10:48:18 pm
Sorry StanS bet ya to the holshot ;D ;)
Any rider or pit crew that braved that downhill or watched brave it , is most welcome to join us lot at CD8 ,I reckon ;D

Yes Alison you won that one but it was the other Wallan International one that Anton has posted his first couple of comments on. ;)

Regards Stan.

http://ozvmx.com/community/index.php?topic=14470.msg172960;topicseen#msg172960
Title: Re: ML 45: Landman's stiff back and cobwebbed arse back in the saddle ...
Post by: VMX247 on February 03, 2011, 12:05:18 am: Yep ,well there are so many prospective invites.
I hope those mob at VMX Magazine are good at lick'in stamps. ;) ;D
cheers A
Title: Re: ML 45: Landman's stiff back and cobwebbed arse back in the saddle ...
Post by: Stan S on February 03, 2011, 12:07:22 am: Quote from: VMX247 on February 03, 2011, 12:05:18 am
Yep ,well there are so many prospective invites.
I hope those mob at VMX Magazine are good at lick'in stamps. ;) ;D
cheers A

:D :D :D
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Post by: Rosco86 on February 04, 2011, 09:10:31 pm: Reckon I must have been a bit unlucky as I raced sub-juniors with Anton, Ronnie Dinsdale, Grant Cramer, Andy Horne (anyone know his werabouts?) a quite a few other quicks. No wonder it was hard to make the podium. Nice to see that some still have an interest, welcome Anton. Ronnie hadn't changed when I ran into him at the Nationals held in Ravenswood when he took home all those "house stumps." (trophies were mounted onto big pieces of timber.) Couldn't work out why the maico stalled on the start line till I saw Ronnie's big foot across the exhaust and a big cheesy grin across his face. At least he had a better haircut than he did in the 70s. I think he just loved that Romper Stomper look.

Stan, was the Seaford track the one off Ballarto Rd? Think my last race there was in 74 as I started racing Speedway in 75. Good little track, flat as a pancake with a creeek crossing in the middle to give it a bit on interest. Always thought the Korumburra track would suit VMX as it was laid out for the 3 wheeler boys but it never seemed to get a gurnsey.
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Post by: jerry on February 04, 2011, 10:17:36 pm: Confirmed, Seaford track was off Ballarto Rd. Think it's a housing estate now. Had my first race there. I remember the dried out creek crossing. I think it was the first time the Yamaha MX400's were seen in Vic. Steve Cramer on one if I remember. Cheers Jerry
Title: Re: ML 45: Landman's stiff back and cobwebbed arse back in the saddle ...
Post by: Doggy Digger on February 04, 2011, 10:35:22 pm: I remember a track around that area ... with the creek in the middle.

And the pros were jumping
INTO THE CREEK. I won the C grade there. And I also learned I couldn't be an A-grader, cos there was no way
known I'd bloody-well jump INTO IT.
Title: Re: ML 45: Landman's stiff back and cobwebbed arse back in the saddle ...
Post by: jerry on February 05, 2011, 07:36:09 am: Ditto that for me Roger. Wonder if we were in the same race? Maybe Stan has the program??? Jerry
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Post by: mxmaniac on February 05, 2011, 09:53:33 am: Quote from: Swedish Connection on February 02, 2011, 06:53:00 pm
I have been involve with vintage ever since it started and l have race against Mike Landman over the years, but he has showed no interest in the vintage race meetings here in Victoria, so why are you making a big fuss over this guy. Big deal if he goes to the UK, who cares, Ron Dinsdale rates higher on my list as a contender.

I have spoke to Mike a million times over the past years regarding VMX, trying to bait him. His got his own genuine reasons ie.. Past injuries giving him buggery for a long time there, full on shedule with modern mx, would want his own bike to set up etc.. the list goes on and all is fair point. If he was to do it, i think it would have to be 110% due to his competetive nature. I have watched him race the veterans nationals thing at Traralgon back in 02 when he rode my brothers ktm 520 and got 2nd to Jim Ellis, he raced a CRF450 with "L" plates at Pakenham thumpercross in 08. He is one hell of a bloke,what he does or doesn't do is his business and definately doesn't have to meet your expectations.
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Post by: TM BILL on February 05, 2011, 12:23:34 pm: I think you will find that Mike is keen to ride Farliegh in vets modern (on a modern bike ) Mike and most of the other legends walked the walk back in the day and got everything out of the now vintage bikes when they were new .

Lets face it most of the people who ride VMX are , were and always will be wobblers :D we never rode the bikes in the day to their full potential and we still cant. The good riders from the day have nothing to prove they did their talking in the day .

I remember when Graham Noyce bought his RC 500 out in the early 90s and got beat by some kid half his age , kids running round the pits like hes christ almighty cos he beat an overweight ex champion twice his age ::)

I think noycey parked it up for a few years before getting into vintage , Ex champions have nothing to prove to anyone in most cases they were and still are heros to us :)

Mike and the other legends did it when it counted and if they choose to come out and ride occasionaly with us now and then thats great if not then thanks for the memories :)

I hope Mike can get to Farliegh and wish him every succsess in the vets modern :)