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Marque Remarks => Suzuki => Topic started by: SUZUKI311 on January 01, 2011, 09:12:42 am
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Just picked up an RM80C from fleabay- pretty original- but does have the wrong forks and clamps, does anybody have any leads on some available? Also has a very ingenuitive shock lengthening device (aka a piece of flate plate bolted onto the bottom of the shocks!) to level her out due to the longer forks currently fitted. Just a bit unsure which way to go, restore, make into a period hottie, tidy up and resell ? it has a mototek cdi also, and i have access to a NOS PK pipe..
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First you get a boat and drive to Eppalock. Then you take a plank and stick it over the side, then you put your wife's favorite evening dress on, hop on the bike and back flip it off into to depths below, after which you put the video on youtube. Then you sit back feeling chuffed while devising an even better plan for the RM80B. Oh yeah, you need to get yourself a jersey with "Spock Pastrana rules" printed on it.
K
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You have far too much time on your hands my friend......the 80B will be a thing of beauty once finished-once you have painted the tank and plastics for me anyway....plus the boat was sold a while ago....
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C'mon Bill. Restore her mate to the point that you and I can have an eighties race in Viper. ;)
I'm havin' tons of fun with this 80J. Once you get into it you'll want ten of the things....... :)
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Thats the problem Rosscoe, i think i already like 'em..uh-oh. Maybe if we get enough 80's we could have a class???
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I've got enough 80's for a class! ;D
(always looking to add more and before christmas I did spot that bike with the CD80 mototek but alas, not my neck of the woods ;))
I don't reckon resale value is really worth considering 311, unless it's a full resto it isn't worth much and would be flat out pulling a grand even if it were quite tidy. If it was a full nos resto you 'might' double that figure but that wouldn't even cover the cost of parts so it all comes back to building it for the enjoyment factor only. Taking whichever direction you see fit as parts and accessories become available is part of the fun. Can't help with the forks sorry but the $ is good in the US ;)
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Bill These look to be the same as the RM80C on Terry Goods site, 30mm , I used the forks in the xr75,
Free to a good home if they're any good to you
Cheers KB
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Maybe if we get enough 80's we could have a class???
I reckon' that'd be a ton of fun. Untill then I'm gunna see if they'll let me run mine in with the Pre 85 125's (which are in with the 250's :-X)
* KB has an 80 as well..... ;)
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I've got enough 80's for a class! ;D
urm.. six more boxes are about to land on your doorstep. and maybe one or two after that!
Luke
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Thanks a squillion Luke! I'll get that 80 dragged up from Mick's down south and then there'll be another ;D just out of curiosity, how did you collect so much RM80 stuff in such a short period of time! Amazing! :D
KB, that frame you have/had is '80 RM80T or '81 X. The clamps should bolt straight up to the C. Minor differences but you'd be hard pressed to pick it without having them side by side ;) I also notice your BBQ has a shaker scoop..must be a real hotty eh! ;D
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Yer spot on Doc RM80X stamped on it, Havin the shaker on the BBQ's as close as i'll get to a GT mate :(
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S'pose I could get a KX80A going and go racing with youse. Let me think about that for a moment......nope! 80cc racing is for children just like it was back then. Adults on 80's is a waste of valuable time on race days. Call me harsh & narrow minded if you like.
K
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you're harsh and narrow minded BigK ;D
mind you on a closed course I'm probably faster on an 80 than I am a full size bike ;)
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Harsh & narrow......
If they split the Nats I'm sure they could easily accomadate an 80 class somewhere. Maybe a Pre 85 and Evo class?....... ;)
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+3 harsh and narrow :P
Why discriminate a class that started it all for most of us and could get future kids into vmx and the family back into FUN.
Might get the lazy arses off facetube :P and outside and do some exercise for once.
Plus it will be fun to see adults get injured like they used to ;D
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Just a bit unsure which way to go, restore, make into a period hottie, tidy up and resell ?
ANY of those is a valid and correct action. Any VMX Suzuki, regardless of model or size, is worth bringing back to life.
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80cc VMX racing for children (up to 15) is fine Monaro, and as it should be, just not with adults. Pre '80 mini's is already run here in Vic and has about 3-5 runners on mostly hotted up, long travel XR's. I imagine it's great for the those few participating but all it is is pit bike racing on old bikes. I don't know what the answer is as I doubt there are too many kids interested in racing something they have no affinity with.
K
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80cc VMX racing for children (up to 15) is fine Monaro, and as it should be, just not with adults. Pre '80 mini's is already run here in Vic and has about 3-5 runners on mostly hotted up, long travel XR's. I imagine it's great for the those few participating but all it is is pit bike racing on old bikes. I don't know what the answer is as I doubt there are too many kids interested in racing something they have no affinity with.
K
I'm just playing along BigK and i know what you are saying as its up to the parents racing and those involved to push the kids a little.
Even a minibike display at the meetings would put a few smiles on any kids face...big or small.
It saddens me that the bikes we started on dont get the respect they deserve,but thats just me.
Anyway workcare and insurance would kill the idea of an adult on a mini....but they love taking our money ;)
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Back in the day 8) 165cm and 50kgs is my average height/weight here and now. Depending on the season the weight goes up or down a few kilos but 50 is a happy medium ;) Mighty Stickman!
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Woohoo! certainly put the cat amongst the pigeons!! seriously though, i too would be way too big (read too fat) , to ride one, but i reckon i will bring my 80b along to viper meetings to show off once its done. Great pics once again Bear, love the late 70's suzook minis. Hey Doc, just how many little ones do you have grazing away in the shed?? KB thanks for the offer, i think Big K has a set for me, but if not i will take you up on that offer.Cheers, Bill
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Well I'm gunna give it a crack. Andrea Matherson was racing an 80 now and then (and winning) and I think he might have the President of Ballarat Rovers at the time (if I'm thinking right) and he wasn't much smaller than he is now.... ;)
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I'd love to join ya on the start line on this Ross , :-\ But the last time i had a decent blast on this little fella i ended up KO'd and in the back the meat wagon :-[
Not much different to what happened last time out on its big brother i spose :-\
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:o Seems some of the worst injuries are done on the smallest bikes eh KB!
I really don't think adults racing on mini's is such a great idea health wise but, if an older type person chooses to do so I don't believe they should be excluded simply because of wheel size, Unless they're clearly much slower and a real danger to the other riders then I can't see how/why a few 80's in with the 125's would cause any real drama's, excepting if you got your arse whipped by one that is >:( :D
Events such as Classic Dirt could allow adults on mini's (maybe they do already ? :P) BUT, only on the pre'75/novice track and not out with the 250's/500's and such. Just my perspective.
311, my mini collection totals about 11 (atm) but half of these are 50's. No resto's amongst them and some need a little finishing off but they are all pretty correct for their respective era's and absolutely nothing is above being ridden if/when possible :)
(http://public.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pmRDCEK9CSHtZGGSAjKMkRYdSqEg1PzzuKlYqCS5RJbVRSuBmBHo2cWhSYyb-7B6gxsD1iNvN9o06NDKsSQctEw/tm75%20doc.jpg?psid=1)
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I reeeaaaaally like this one Doc. It says something to me about the mini's of this era. They were everything that their bigger brothers were.
There's nothing nicer than beating people on a bike that people scoff at (cough, cough)..... :D
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66, I totally agree 8) The '81ish-'86 era was brilliant for 'real' mini replica's I reckon. I love my 80B but have to admit the '82 is the fav amongst what I have. On the hunt for preferably an '85 as I NEED a kettle and the '85 was the last of the drum brake jobs still with the nice Z styling.
(http://www.suzukicycles.org/photos/RM-RMX-series/RM80/1985_RM80_Canada_500.jpg)
The '82 needs the rear shock regassed, a carb to airbox rubber and a couple of new tyres for it to be a goer. Rebuilt the engine years ago but it's never been started. also has '83D rear suspension and gold wheels fitted ;)
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That is a great collection there Chris.
Even though i was a YZ80 kid the floater 80 got my attention especially with that x link setup of the floater.
Was it because of space issues ie air cooled and airbox??....but then the w/cooled came out with the same set up and maybe suzook couldn't see the point in rejigging a new frame and linkage set up.
Plus big brother RM's came out with the new floater setup again in '86
The TS or something had it as well from memory,but what other suzook had that x link??
I still have a w-bottle RM80 bottom end that i've kept for 15+ years after a mates kid destroyed his top end and supplied another engine-less electrics for me to change.He sold it straight after but i kept the bottom end and never checked how good it is.....infact i've never checked what model its from,but will check it later today.
66,is there another way of re-doing/machining the steering shaft to take a different seal set up and keep the water in on your 80 J ? I read some mod years ago that couldn't be seen and worked well.
If anyone has an 83 YZ80K pipe for sale in the future let me know as i will need one in a few months when the K goes back together.
cheers...Mario
edit...just saw your TSX250 Doc regarding the floater link ;) thats the bike i was on about.
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I'm not sure about doing anything with the steering head Mario. If I can't get the seals or get some to suit I'll have to look at something else.
I have a pipe which came with another motor and it runs up the RHS of the bike (the J is on the left). It may be a K pipe. I'll send you a pic of it (if I remember to get one when I'm over the shed ::)). You can have it if you think it is one...
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Events such as Classic Dirt could allow adults on mini's (maybe they do already ? :P) BUT, only on the pre'75/novice track and not out with the 250's/500's and such.
There where a few out on both tracks at CD7 Doc,one of the few was the guy with the bubble faced helmet doing some crazy antics, :-\
There are also a few featured in Roger Harveys CD7 book on the sixth last page.
I reckon they have as much right as there big brothers & sister,maybe they could one day be the feature bike.
Long live the 80's ;D
cheers A
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Mario, yup, I was going to reply yesterday. The TSX was the only other with that type of linkage (unless they fitted it to roadies too ?) Seems to work quite well, don't really think about rear much when riding which is a good thing I suppose :P very plush on the TSX even with my light weight :)
I've an RM80 w/cooled cylinder here Luke kindly sent me that may fit your bottom end if you want. If you don't want it, as always, Doc would be interested in anything remotely RM80 (stupidly obvious thing to say.. ::)) Think the barrel is '83-'86ish but I'd have to double check. I have a freshly powdercoated RM80D chassis as well and probably wheels and other smaller bits..not quite enough to do anything with but good spares depending what model I can find to resurect ;)
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Hi Chris,i checked the eng# on that 80 bottom end and it shows C105 100708.
I've checked our usual source for eng # and come up blank ???
Did a google and only 1 thing came up as C105 being an 84 but that wasn't convincing enough for me.
I don't know how many changes were made to the 80 engine during that period...probably very minor.
I was going to build it up for the kart but found the YZ80K and used that and i honestly think that i will never use it,but i bet my left knacker that if it i sell it an RM80D,E,F or was it XH they went to..i can't remember and the Big Wheel job was around too wasn't it?? turns up on my doorstep (doubt it).
I won't sell it to you but i will give it to you to as 99.9999999% ownership and i'd rather you get that D roller on the go than it sitting for another 15+ years doing SFA....is it a deal? ;)
If you or anyone you know is coming down to HBBB i can leave it with them when the time comes.
Postage can be a last choice.
Cheers Mario
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Tellya what Mario, swap ya that PE175T headlight assy for the 80 bottom end ;D it was yours anyway but eh..this'll give me more incentive to pull my finger out and post it! :D as for the engine number..I have nooo idea ??? I'll have a sniff around later but I think between '84 and '86 things stayed pretty much status quo in regards to the engines. Another project ::) I love it! ;D
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Ha Ha Ha i knew you wouldn't say no,but if you can use it,go right ahead.Just rebuild it and send it back to me ;D j/king.
Looks like you have another project to keep you going and its good to get another RM mini out there!
Cheers Mario
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jeez I hope I've got a few years left in me yet cause I need about 30 to get through these projects! ::) watching someone piece together a 1000 piece jigsaw puzzle the other day and I said "I have no flamin' idea how they have the patience to sit and do it piece by piece!" They said "same as you and your bikes" :-\ one big difference! If I'm missing a piece I simply make it with no need to get all ballistic ;D though that does happen sometimes anyway :-X
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A home for the 80 motor arrived this morning Mario ;D a little better than expected ;)
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YEESSSS....i was hoping that you got it Chris,good stuff!
Another project on the "to do" list ;)
Let me know if you/anyone up your way will be going to HBBB i think its in april??so i can pass on the RM80 bottom end if you can wait that long,otherwise its postage.
If i get a chance soon,i might box it up and get a quote from Austpost anyway and let you know.
Good to see another RM mini being brought back to life :)
cheers...Mario
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Just picked up an RM80C from fleabay- pretty original- but does have the wrong forks and clamps, does anybody have any leads on some available? Also has a very ingenuitive shock lengthening device (aka a piece of flate plate bolted onto the bottom of the shocks!) to level her out due to the longer forks currently fitted. Just a bit unsure which way to go, restore, make into a period hottie, tidy up and resell ? it has a mototek cdi also, and i have access to a NOS PK pipe..
a green sister .. 8)
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/KX80-KAWASAKI-1983-MODEL-VMX-BIKE-/330518512206?pt=AU_Motorcycles&hash=item4cf470424e
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This arrived tonight many many thanks to Rocketfrog Jason and Macho Mick ;D
Needs a minor spot of attention here and there but eh, for $26 I thought it a bargain :D It even came with a fairly straight RM125A/B alloy tank which was the item I initially had my claws out for :P The seller was going to post just the tank as requested but after looking for a while I gave in to my conscience and decided if I won I'd fix the bike.
Well I won..no surprises there eh! ;D Between myself and a much appreciated large donation from Luke recently there are near enough parts in stock to build it into a nice little ride bike ;) just a pipe and the original tank still required..
(http://nvpqda.bay.livefilestore.com/y1phYt3aGaMy2SWyQHXgD6fdukgfMvtHIzETH7creJjdyNk0Y2z79xCF1vK3dYpefpCWCz7bE11uNotwwl2_GyCDMr-D63Vf2Ei/RM80B%20as%20purchased%2025th%20Jan%202011%20002.jpg?psid=1)
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a week or two of the 'Doc' magic and it will be unrecognisable ;D
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probably need to wait until winter to get that 2 weeks Luke ;) working 7 days a week since the rain sort of let up and there doesn't appear to be any reprieve in sight ::) not complaining, but roll on winter! :D
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Chris, what pipe are you looking for?
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Mario, the pipe I be hunting now is for the RM80B. An 80C pipe would work also and at a pinch an N or T pipe may do the job too..come to think of it any twinshock RM80 pipe would get things moving ;)
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Here's something to look for an all RM80's up the '81 X, all RM50's RM60's and all DS80's up to 2000.
(http://osxdwg.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pdMH-P4GLP6k31Q3mtac7X-azVDNly3c4hbvMyBGauyQn47xDW2FkaHjSzH4WPw4C427dJHgz1VqkSHj2W-lMtDB7ZUAjS7zu/RM80B%20crankcase%20crack%20002.jpg?psid=1)
In some cases the whole piece breaks out and the output cluster drops into the other causing the whole gearbox to lock solid and or strip teeth.
It would seem the resonance from the kickstart shaft stop against the stop cast into the right crankcase is the problem. This pic taken of the most recent motor I pulled down, at least it's still attached and in one piece. Easiest fix I found over the years is simply fit a rubber strap to the kickstart lever that actually holds it off the stops eliminating the resonance whilst in use..end of problem ;)
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this extract lifted from a current RM80C auction in Oz :D
It sat in my cousins shed for about 5 years untouched and then we dug it out. It has the most aggressive powerband i've ever felt on a 80.
It is an animal
as kids this 'animal' is what we took for granted as being 'normal' ;D
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Suzuki-RM80-/180622569608?pt=AU_Motorcycle_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2a0df1b088#ht_600wt_928 (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Suzuki-RM80-/180622569608?pt=AU_Motorcycle_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2a0df1b088#ht_600wt_928)