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Clubroom => General Discussion => Topic started by: mx250 on December 08, 2010, 09:25:46 pm
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$2,938.00. The seller should be well pleased. Every part of the bike will have to be restored, replaced or re-chromed. Whatcha reckon, another $5000-7000. Restored YM'sx can be bought for $3-4000 in the US. The buyer must be a keen hobbyist rather than a collector or a nostalgic retiree 'born again'.
It will be a nice bike when restored.
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Gotta luv the 750 3 cyl twostroker in the background. Good bike for wet weather fun..
Brett
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:D some days are diamonds..lets just say I'd be even happier when the money is in the bank ;) can't say I've ever seen one before :-\
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Dont you see the resemblance where Suzuki copied Yamaha to make their MX bikes Doc?
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Dont you see the resemblance where Suzuki copied Yamaha to make their MX bikes Doc?
Or BMW copied the GS450 clutch from..... was predecessor of first Yamaha TD road racers and had the same problems with the clutch jumping off at high rpm.
As for H2 Kawasaki triple, always thought they were over rated, handling is not as bad as they make out.
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As for H2 Kawasaki triple, always thought they were over rated, handling is not as bad as they make out.
As someone who owned both 500 and 750 triples I'd question your opinion of the handling Marc. They were pretty awful, especially in the rain. I've got a few gravel scars to prove it. ;D
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mate took his H2 to bathurst,lasted 2 practise sessions,was back home sat,thought he was doing ok down conrod,(no one went past),actually back in the pits eveyone said they wern't game to go anywhere near him ,he took up the whole road going in a straight line down the hill,true story, :P
same guy tried H2 dirt outfit,didn't need to handle ;D
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Jeez Firko....where lucky your still with us.....most owners of those bikes ended up in a wooden crate not long after purchase!!!....you must have been one of the "chosen".....and to own a half litre aswell as a 3/4 litre.....thats hero status.....I must admit I'd love a 750 in my collection...they are reasonally priced compared to the 900's though. Kawasaki must have had two completely different departments that made those bikes, talk about chalk and cheese. I saw a guy get killed roadracing 750 in NZ, straight into a lamp post, Porirua GP.
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They dont go to bad with a chair on em either !! ;D
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I saw a guy get killed roadracing 750 in NZ, straight into a lamp post, Porirua GP.
Do you mean Gracefield at a Marlboro series round by any chance, Davey ?
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I agree Firko l had a 500 and it came new from the factory with a hinge in the middle, went great but did not like going round corners, water bottle bit better, but not much....
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As for H2 Kawasaki triple, always thought they were over rated, handling is not as bad as they make out.
.... nothing that a bit of frame integrity, decent suspension, brakes appropriate to performance and ground clearance couldn't fix. ;) ;D.
But didn't they sound great coming on to pipe 8) (at idle and on the over run forget it). Sounded like a turbo spooling up.
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As bad as the H1 and H2 were they could be made to work. A few years after I sold my H2 I met a bloke who owned a few Kawasaki triples and had made it his lifes mission to tame the beasts. He let me have a ride on his H2 that had been fitted with a braced frame, set of Ceriani road race forks, a braced Kosman swingarm, alloy Konis and a home made CD1 ignition that softened the torque curve. The bike was otherwise as stock as a rock and the improvements were phenomenal, a pleasure to ride. It was stable at speed and the power came on much smoother but without losing any of the inbuilt thrill. I remember him laughing at blokes fitting expansion chambers to triples as he reckoned they narrowed the power band even more. The H2 is basically three F11 cylinders and he reckoned the Kawasaki race kit had similar porting and ignition timing to the F11M motocrosser.
I always wanted to get another one to do the same mods but now that I'm an old fat guy in my 60's I don't think it'd be a suitable bit of transport.
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As bad as the H1 and H2 were they could be made to work. A few years after I sold my H2 I met a bloke who was owned a few Kawasaki triples who had made it his lifes mission to tame the beasts. He let me have a ride on his H2 that had been fitted with a braced frame, set of Ceriani road race forks, a braced Kosman swingarm, alloy Konis and a home made CD1 ignition that softened the torque curve. The bike was otherwise as stock as a rock and the improvements were phenomenal, a pleasure to ride. It was stable at speed and the power came on much smoother but without losing any of the inbuilt thrill. I remember him laughing at blokes fitting expansion chambers to triples as he reckoned they narrowed the power band even more. The H2 is basically three F11 cylinders and he reckoned the Kawasaki race kit had similar porting and ignition timing to the F11M motocrosser.
I always wanted to get another one to do the same mods but now that I'm an old fat guy in my 60's I don't think it'd be a suitable bit of transport.
Did he improve the fuel economy (or non-economy as the case may be ;D.)
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i got given a Mach 111 back in the 70's (age 15-16yrs ) by an older friend ! lets just say it had a very interesting front end at speed :o it was the only roadie i ever owned for some reason !!! but in some strange way i wished i had it again! sounded cool like a tin full of angry bumble bees ???
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This is one way you can improve the suspension and handling ::).
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Yea, nah GD....went to all the Gracfield races aswell but this was a local up and comer. Old Billy Wetzel had a 750 in his shop and I still remember them starting it by selecting 2nd gear and giving the rear wheel a gentle push and then this thing would light up ....burble, burble, burble, burble....on the workbench of course. They have their own unique sound those tripples....love it. Saw Kork Ballington ride one of his ex works bikes last year at the Aussie Classic champs at Warrick....ya gotta love "Green". If I had the dough-rae-me I would have a couple of tripples along with a TZ750, TZ500 (KR style), RG500, Yoshimura 900 Kwaka and a Roberts GS1000 Suzuki....where the f#@k's Santa-claus.....who said money cant buy happiness.... :( ;D
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Got it, just that I lost a friend that way in the Gracefield esses in 1975 while I was doing commentary at the far end of the circuit. Re your wish list of bikes, more than half of them will be on view at the Phillip Island Classic on Australia Day weekend.... ;)
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As bad as the H1 and H2 were they could be made to work. A few years after I sold my H2 I met a bloke who was owned a few Kawasaki triples who had made it his lifes mission to tame the beasts.
I think they suffered badly from budget suspension .... like most other Japanese bikes of the day ... at least the Japanese improved, Harley are still using it ???.
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Did he improve the fuel economy (or non-economy as the case may be .)
If fuel economy is a concern, perhaps an H2 wouldn't be your bike of choice anyway. I've never let minor considerations like economy cloud my judgement, as owning only V12 and V8 powered cars may indicate :D.
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I like the way the two guys following the ''smoker'' outfit are trying to get their heads out of the way. :D
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Did he improve the fuel economy (or non-economy as the case may be .)
If fuel economy is a concern, perhaps an H2 wouldn't be your bike of choice anyway. I've never let minor considerations like economy cloud my judgement, as owning only V12 and V8 powered cars may indicate :D.
Ya musta been a Boulevard Poser Firko ;D. Back in the day for me fuel range, a function of fuel economy and tank size both of which the Kawa's lacked, was a major selection criteria - I hate pulling into every servo ya go passed.
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Ya musta been a Boulevard Poser Firko .
You got me in one go Graeme...I still am a cafe cruiser and proud of it, I've never much liked long distance touring on two wheels. I prefer the idea of being out of the weather in air conditioned comfort, some cool jazz on the stereo and good conversation with my passenger. I've done the legendary Bucketts Way up to Walcha, considered by many to be one of the best bike roads in OZ on both big roadies and in my Jagwah and the big cat wins hands down. I do however love cruising the capuchino trail on my roadies. There's nothing like an early Sunday morning thrash up the Bells Line of Road to Leura for a nice cup of Java and a cup cake on my mates borrowed Bonny..... 8)
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My loving old H2 was not stock in the engine department, ie chambers ,porting ,42mm Mikunis , beefed up gears etc but ran stock frame. Did effect the fuel economy (and being only 19 years old at the time probably did not help..) Melbourne to Echuca Victoria 212kms = three and a half tanks of good old leaded petrol....
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Never rode the 750 or 500 Kawas but I have ridden the 250. Interesting is how I'd describe the handling. Thing would snake and wallow in the mildest of corners.
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I've done the legendary Bucketts Way up to Walcha, considered by many to be one of the best bike roads in OZ
Bucketts is an interesting trot but I would never rate it near the best. The last time I did Bucketts, about 4 years ago, it was a death trap for cars and bikes with broken edges probably being the biggest danger.
There are many favoured road in Oz but for uninterpreted ride, challenging, scenery, corners, corners and corners, good predictable surface, yarda, yarda, yarda - The Oxley 8). (But there are others.)
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I guess it's way off topic now anyway....but didn't Warren Willing win a Castrol 6 Hour on a 750? Never ridden a triple but few of the Japanese vintage back then handled well.......ya just learned to live [survive] with it.
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was chesterfeild series at amaroo,all in brawls on H2's, willing,Gary Thomas,Hansford,thats all i can remember offhand,think around the middle to late 70's, :P
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Warren Willing and John Boote claimed 2nd place in the 1973 6HR but Mike Steele and Dave Burgess won the event outright in 1972 riding the 'evil handling' 750 H2 ;)
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Chris, I think that was 1971 (win) and 1973 (2nd) ? Anybody alive remember for sure?
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Doc's onto it. Results and pics on www.castrol6hour.com.au ;)
Also the www.deejay51.com site has a stack of 6 Hour stuff, including a few pics of what Amaroo looks like now :o
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oooh! isn't that a brilliant site! Wonderful stuff!
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Excellent!
Oh look, another deadly contraption.
(http://www.castrol6hour.com.au/media/74hansford.jpg)
and again.........cleaning up an MV Augusta. 8)
(http://www.castrol6hour.com.au/media/72kawasakiandmv.jpg)
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They dont go to bad with a chair on em either !! ;D
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I like the way the two guys following the ''smoker'' outfit are trying to get their heads out of the way. :D
heres a buy for your pre75 crusade 8) ;D
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