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Clubroom => General Discussion => Topic started by: Mark Austin on November 22, 2007, 05:11:37 pm
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This may be very un PC and very non VMX, but is anyone interested in making a call on the election on Saturday?
Maybe we should have our own poll - that should add up to 100,001 polls over the last month!
Any takers?
Mark.
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Yep Labour by 7 seats.
i'll be glad to see the end of lying Evil King John Howard.
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mmm..Labour I feel but it'll be close..there doesn't seem to be a lesser of 2 evils this time around :-\ :D
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I predict the Greens candidate for Wentworth, Mark Austin, will be arrested within a week of the election (if Uncle John wins) for Mr Howards assassination. I have a sneaking suspicion they don't like each other.
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How about - Labor by 15 seats with the loss of the seats of North Sydney, Wentworth and Bennelong...
Ie Hockey, Turnbull and Howard.
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I would never deliberately "hurt" someone Mr Magoo - and anyway it may not matter after Saturday.
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I'm just lookin' for my mailbox.. it's been deluged in junk mail from John and Maxine EVERY dang day...
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Quote .... "Sorry mate you've lost my vote" ;D ;D ;D
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It seems that who ever is prime minister at the time is the bad guy. Put that aside and the lesser of two evils for mine is Johnny. Labour had a billion dollar deficit, now we are in the black,my house is worth more every year, and the aussie dollar is at its best and business is great! Thats the most i have ever spoken about politics.
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I reckon Kev got wedgies every day when he went to school. Now it's payback time I reckon. I hope he doesn't give us all a wedgie. His minions don't fill me with confidence I must say.
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lock in the interest rate on the mortgage, anyone who looks like they should be on South Park has no call being my PM
Tanner
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lock in the interest rate on the mortgage, anyone who looks like they should be on South Park has no call being my PM
Tanner
Does look like both have a feotus hanging off there chins, still better the devil you know ::) does either of them have a policy
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I think we are doomed; I'll bet a two faced, lying, cheating, pork barrelling, junket feed, rorting politician wins ::) :P ;D
I just hope it not that cynical manipulating Howard >:( ;)
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Labor by 12 seats. I'll be really stoked to see at that pompous lying little prick, Johnny Howard give his abdication speech. We've been fed so much bullshit from the Libs such as the Wheat Board cover up, the children overboard scandal, involving us in Iraq and much more not to forget todays latest effort here in my electorate where the current liberal candidate(Kerry Kijoff) and the retiring liberal candidates (Jackie Kelly) husbands were caught letterboxing disgustingly inciteful material under the guise of a Muslim Association thanking the Labor party for forgiving the Bali bombers. forking disgraceful politics.
The thought that I once kissed that stinking bitch Jackie Kelly when she presented me with a trophy truly makes me ill.
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this last year I have started to finally pay off the bloody loan to the banks. Best perf i have achiev in many years.
Another 5 at this rate, I would have it nailed.
I gotta say that I am a K1w1 so I wont be contributing, FWIW (to the vote).
but
I pay my taxes,
and am looking forward to keep pay off my mortgage at the same rate we are at now, (or better :) )
Neutral
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Hey Firko - did you slip in the tounge when you got the kiss from JK, lol.
Both sides have their disadvantages but this time around I would like to see labour just edge in (that way they know they to keep their heads pulled in. The reason I want to see the Libs get a good kicking is because Work(choices?) was brought in without a mandate - it was way to serious for Howard not to have spelt out his intentions BEFORE the last election. Beside that Costello would slide into the PM's chair - perish the thought!
For those of you old enough to remember (and this will show my age) don't you think that Kevin 07 looks like one of those kids at school who knew everything, always dobbed you in and was entrusted as the only responsible student to fill the ink wells, lmfao! We have reached a fork in the road where working families must be protected ??? - strange speak, but that's our Kevin07.
Either way we are stuffed with the ALP by 8 - 10 seats.
Most pollies are pricks - and have never done dirt riders any favours!!!
I'll see John Howard with me at the back of the pack at 9pm Saturday ;)
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Been able to buy more bikes/projects in the last ten years than I ever have. Johnny must be doing something right !. Kevins team leave a lot to be desired.
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So no one here was paying a mortgage in the Keating 90's era? If there was any money left over from paying for the roof over your head then there's no way you would have had your "toys" to spend money on. And if you consider that the Ozzie dollar at the time bought you about 50 cents US, well you would have been better off selling off your extra bikes to Simsmetal to pay for one spark plug.
I'm sure if Peter Garret becomes Envioronment Minister, Simsmetal will be the only place you can take your bikes on the weekend......... :'(
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It always did amaze and shock me that so many Australians would put such a high value on interest rates and not give a fig about any other thing the government did. I guess that's how Howard got away with all the crimes that he has committed over the last decade - we all got bribed.
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That would be funny, Environment Minister Peter Garrett chaining himself to the main jump at Oran Park to stop those disgusting, polluting 2 stroke motorcycles from destroying the environment.
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That would be funny, Environment Minister Peter Garrett chaining himself to the main jump at Oran Park to stop those disgusting, polluting 2 stroke motorcycles from destroying the environment.
Nah, he won't have time. He'll be on one tax payer junket after another burning 20,000 litres of kero in the stratoshere going to from one conference on Saving the World to another ::)
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It always did amaze and shock me that so many Australians would put such a high value on interest rates and not give a fig about any other thing the government did. I guess that's how Howard got away with all the crimes that he has committed over the last decade - we all got bribed.
I concur Twisted. There's a little more to judging a government than the economy alone, and there's a little more than good economic management than government policy. Does 'When America sneezes the rest of the world get a cold' strike a cord.
And in recent times Australia been riding on the back of the mining boom brought about by China's boom which had nothing to do with Howard or his govt.
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Don't overlook that if you are voting Liberal, you're voting for Costello as Prime minister. I'm certain the only reason that Johnny has stayed in the job is because they know the haven't a hope of winning an election with Costello driving the bus. Imagine 4 years of Costellos smirky arrogance on your TV screens every night. The Labor South Park gang might not look too pretty but they deserve a shot at it. I think Rudd might turn out to be a pretty smart cookie and he's got a pretty smart missus as well. I don't think the interest rates will be affected by anything but world economy pressures.
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I reckon Kev got wedgies every day when he went to school. Now it's payback time I reckon. I hope he doesn't give us all a wedgie. His minions don't fill me with confidence I must say.
agree a dumber gilard i have not seen.
im so over the election and the money we waste on those adds, half the lot and then half them again and we might get some value out of all the polies......
Without an opposition federally in power, labour i dare say it will run as half arsed as they do in every other state in Australia, and they cant even get that right, how the hell are they going to get it right with more power ? and no checks and balances /
they will piss away millions on trying to fix there feel good voting campaign sellers around health and education hoping to make a warm impact, but like pissingin your wet suit it only stay warm for a will, then where do they get the coin from when they have handed it all out on freebies to keep the minorities happy ? in tis case to heads arent better than one. IF i vote for rudd i get gillard and her ineptness is only covered by kev spukings from well paid spin doctors
we should be able to Vote in each minister from any party to form a credible and powerful government every candidate should be an indpendant even to the ministers voted in, like a super team, you get the real smart ones like costello to do the treasury, you throw in any good ones from the green, labour or wherever you'd get what you want.
imagine being able to build a 74' super bike from any parts you like ? rather than as you do now you got 2 choices a suzuki or a yamaha thats it, the rest are euro's you have only heard about but never seen.
God help us is gillard or rudd get in, tweedle dumb and dumber, its like having 2 bushes, i havent seen 2 blanker looks and verbatum speak since the wedges , 'Mark Warey 'and Gerry (Jason Gann and Dailan Evans) — the apologising sportsman and his manager
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if labour get in i for one want to see Garrett do that radical dancing during question time ;D
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What ever we vote for , it has no meaning . One crow does not pic the others eye. Even the loosing party is still a winner. As long as there is this a two party system with preferences and election money, ( I believe its a Dollar or more per vote ) there is no real competition. Even as a looser you still get all the intitlements and perks, the party donations and generous bord salaries on diffrent companies or organisations. So whats the point? Its one big show.I think I stick to bikes and enjoy every day for as long as I can. 8)
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Some of you blokes seem to think when you wake up on Sunday morning with Uncle Kev at the helm, life's going to resemble the Pure Blonde ad on TV. I just hope he doesn't end up like the fat truckie, spraying shit all over us.
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I luv that add .and i think your on the money
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it'll be interesting to see if Howard actually looses his seat to Maxeen...
labor will win but it's be interesting to see by how much.
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And I thought VMX and politics didnt mix ::) :o ??? Wake up and smell the coffee, dont we come in here to get away from boring, bullshitting bastards like politians :o ::) ??? Who ever gets in will piss you off, put their hands in your pockets, lie to your face and generally do nothing and get paid alot of money for it. And then the worse of all..... in few years time they get to do it all over again. Get back to the real pleasures in life, VMX, beer and good mates.
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And I thought VMX and politics didnt mix ::) :o ??? Wake up and smell the coffee, dont we come in here to get away from boring, bullshitting bastards like politians :o ::) ??? Who ever gets in will piss you off, put their hands in your pockets, lie to your face and generally do nothing and get paid alot of money for it. And then the worse of all..... in few years time they get to do it all over again. Get back to the real pleasures in life, VMX, beer and good mates.
Chill out DJ 8) - it only happens once every 4 years or there abouts ;D
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How should you vote;
http://www.howshouldivote.com.au/default.aspx
Apparently I'm 69% Labour - (69% - hey, my favourite number ;D)
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fork no, I'm a Christian Democrat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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im hopeing the liberals get up as ive been in the recession we had to have, lived in a banana republic and worked 7 days a week along with my wife, wonder where or how you were ever going to educate your children, put balls on the line to get ahead in buisness for yourself, pay 17 % interest for a house loan and working for less than $10 an hour, because there was so much unemployment you took what you were offerd, didnt matter what the unions said, they just put to strike for their own egos to run gunshot over politicans(except old Joh in Qld.) so go ahead and vote labour if you want and believe their silly little slogan its time for a change,why change good politics to someone that will be dictated to by unions, who for once have been put in their place in this country.
Cheers
Trev
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There are two things politicians from ALL persuasions have in common;
1) They ALL have arseholes.
2) They are ALL arseholes.
That makes for a lot of arseholes !!! :o
If any of these said arseholes ever took time to listen to the electorate (ie political speak for a collective of human beings that have the democratic right to vote) instead of doing what they think or believe is good for the electorate (often it isn't) then most of the woes of this fine brown land would be fixed ina a jiffy!
On Saturday when you go into the ballot box vote one for arsehole - one is bound to get in !!!
See you at the back of the pack in '08 ;)
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Imagine THE TRUTH, the guy we get to run the country is on about 380k a year and the guy running Telstra is on a bonus of 12 mill plus retainer, its no wonder we get turkeys running the joint. ::) ::) ::) ::)
There are guys selling cars earning more than the PM so the question is; what kind of dumb shit would want to be PM unless he is only there for his (or) her self adulation? Morons, all of em.
DT
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I'm sick of all the dishonesty. I'd like to see the whole country vote informal tomorrow and make our MP's redundant. Not a redundancy Package, with all the perks, skives, overseas postings, superannuation, and cheap air fares, just Redundant.
Billy Connelly has the best take on Polititions - " Don't vote for the Bastards, it just encourages them ".
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http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/11/24/2100160.htm
"The majority of voters - 69 per cent - made up their minds more than a month ago." There's that number again ;D
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My faith in the Australian electorate has been restored...
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Ha Ha Ha poor Johnny Howard, left without a leg to stand on or a "seat" to sit in. Probably the most emphatic "fork Off" a politition has ever received short of a lynching. He will probably make a humble speech about how he has now "chosen" to retire from politics, so long Johnny you sniveling little turd ;D ;D ;D
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shit little johney howard man over board (or was he pushed) now he can go live the rest off his lying days on the island of nauru and be a naurauian he like the place so much
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Labor by 12 seats. I'll be really stoked to see at that pompous lying little prick, Johnny Howard give his abdication speech. We've been fed so much bullshit from the Libs such as the Wheat Board cover up, the children overboard scandal, involving us in Iraq and much more not to forget todays latest effort here in my electorate where the current liberal candidate(Kerry Kijoff) and the retiring liberal candidates (Jackie Kelly) husbands were caught letterboxing disgustingly inciteful material under the guise of a Muslim Association thanking the Labor party for forgiving the Bali bombers. forking disgraceful politics.
The thought that I once kissed that stinking bitch Jackie Kelly when she presented me with a trophy truly makes me ill.
Why don't you tell us what you really think Firko!
That letterbox drop was just shrugged off as a joke, that's the way those liberals work, underhanded, lying, scheming bastards. Anyhoo looks like it backfired in that seat and the lying rodent (libs own term) has lost his own seat and something like 23 of his mates.
For those of you saying the sky is falling, remember back a bit further. Remember when Hawkey was running every farm would be taken over and made collective? The scare campain they run now is still a reds under the beds variation. Just shows what lying, cheating, self serving bastards the coalition are. Looking forward to the next 10 years of Labour. ;D
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After this short interruption to our normal programming caused by the fed election, normal services will now resume. ;D ;D :D ;) ;D ;D
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Not quite ;D
Well I couldn't be happier had several beers to celebrate.AFAIC there is only a few small L Libs that have any conscience at all.First time I have agreed with Ray Martin in a while when he offered that in retrospect history might not be so kind to Howard.Would seem there is a 10 year rule in Australia. After 10yrs we stop listening and think there should be a change and wait for the opportunity to throw the incumbents out. ;D
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You would have thought little Johny might of had some respect for the solders we've lost since he sent them there in his good by speech he could of said sorry.The sad fact even the news ran the story of the last solder dieing second to the election they no so little of the real world.
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RIP australia labour is back to fork us blind wiyh mad union pricks and high interest rates sell the bikes now boys we wont be able to afford to ride.
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You know, regardless of how we feel about the election result (and personally I'm just hoping that Labour can combine their plans for a fairer and more responsible society with the Libs economic foundation and keep us on track), but I for one felt very proud to be an Australian on Saturday night. All over our country, people voted safely and with no coercion or force. When I voted, the Labour and Liberal people handing out leaflets joked with each other in an entirely sociable way. The vote counting was broadcast live around the country, and a fair outcome was decided. The outgoing leader capitulated with good grace, and the new leader took the reins to accolades from his followers. Sunday morning, and while the Liberal faithful moaned and gnashed their teeth and Labourites celebrated, the country continued on with not a single violent or even vocal complaint. We accepted the decision of the people and the entire government changed hands.
Is there another nation on the planet that can show leadership in how to provide fair and democratic government for the people? I don't think so. A shame that the leaders and violent narrow minded ideologues in some nations cannot see that government in this style may not be perfect but it's got to be one of the closest approximations we've seen, and we do it best in Oz.
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Kevin Rudds first day as PM and hes broken his first election promise, ask any of our indigenous readers which policy he has broken, day 1 = 1 lie. Would like to keep a tally but politics is so f___ken boring but 1461 days of power x 1461 lies x 14.61% interest increase (i.e 1 interest point per lie), Stay tuned ::) :D :'(
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Beautifully written Graeme. It is indeed a priviledge to live in this country.
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Beautifully written Graeme. It is indeed a priviledge to live in this country.
Ditto. I'll drink to that - both sentiments, well said Graeme and to a Great Country.
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John Howard would have been a ballsy moto-crosser.
How many PM's or front bench politicians would have stayed in an eletorate that could have seen them lose the top job even if their party had have won. This could have happened to him at any time over the last three elections.
I wouldn't have liked to have been between Howard and Kennett running into a first turn.
They wouldn't have shut off..........
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John Howard would have been a ballsy moto-crosser.
They wouldn't have shut off..........
Nah, ya got it wrong. Thats not how little Johnny would have operated - he would be sneaking around the pits and putting sugar in ya tank or jerry. And then promises other riders that he would let them win 'next time' provided they didn't give you new fuel when you found out. ;D
P.S. No one has, or ever will, bluff me going into the first turn - the first to back off is a chickensh*t ;D. Still the best, most exciting part of MX 8).
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Johnny's corporate friends have heeded his plight and stepped up to the mark with an AWA offer of $5.95 per hour, no paid breaks, no holiday pay, no sick leave, no super, no plenalities, no nothing, but as many burgers as you can eat in a shift ;D .
I suggest you take the offer Johnny but you might like to run it pass a public servant at the DLI 'fair wages' branch - I'm sure they will go in to bat for you with the full weight of the law and the government behind them to act in your interest ;)
(http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l187/mx250a/169497072-M.jpg)
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100% correct Graham in your post, it makes you proud to be Australian.
I'm quite amazed at how bitter some of you guys are. IMAGINE HOW YOU'D FEEL IF BIG KEV LOST. I'm really surprised.
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Magoo..One of the wonderful features of living in a truly democratic society like Australia is that we have the total freedom to openly describe the Howard government as the disgraceful, lying, manipulative team of pricks that they were without the slightest worry of any kind of repecussions. Viva le Lucky Country.
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C'mon Bruce, Bitter is not a bad thing, we can have an opinion as to the countries long term plight, im surprised that your surprised that you'd be surprised :D, P.S. did you see the election riots on the front page of the Sydney Telegraph, that was very un Australian :o i.e ozzies belting ozzies, 3 hour election brawl was the headline>:(
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Yeah. It's very "Aussie" to knock gear off from your boss, bludge at work and take sickies. It's very "un-Aussie" for him to give you the arse if he catches you at it. But no fear. Go to your Union about it, whinge to all your other bludgin' mates and go off on work cover for a couple of weeks. Take your holidays at the busiest time of the year and then go off with depression 'cause you can't do an honest days work in your life. All very "Aussie".
Well, when it's all gone overseas and there's no jobs here remember your contribution.......
The only people who had to fear "Workchoices" were the the disgraceful, lying, manipulative team of pricks that bludge on their bosses without the slightest worry of any kind of repecussions.
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Your interpretation of "Aussie" 414, are you very Aussie? Sounds like you'd be great to work with or for. Mine is a fair go for everyone, don't shit on anyone. Lil Johnny shit on people, simple as that.
Sounds a little bit like some sour grapes by some folks, can't except what the majority of the Australian population voted for, a change.
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I don't know fella. What's your interpretation of Aussie? A few years in the Army, pay your taxes, look after your family be nice to small furry animals or be a bludgin' prick like I described??
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One lot of bloody pollies lost, another bloody lot have won............. poop........... ::).
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The only people who had to fear "Workchoices" were the the disgraceful, lying, manipulative team of pricks that bludge on their bosses without the slightest worry of any kind of repecussions.[/color]
I work in a heavily unionised work-place, and that shit simply doesn't happen.
This is 2007, not 1978 (hmm, who was in Govt back then? Oh, yeah...) - the unions are not the boogey man (anymore).
The whole Howard "Unions are evil" thing shows just how out of touch he is/was, and why he had to go. He was still trying to 'get back' at them for shit that happened nearly 30 years ago. Hawke/Keating sorted out the bullshit, and his WorkChoices bullshit was just heavy handed, retalitory, unneccassary shit.
Personally, I just hope that it is a sign that the majority of Australians have had enough of the 'greedy, walk-over everyone else' mentality that Howard fostered.
The little c$%t even lost his seat: I can't think of a less dignified way for him to depart, which fills my heart with an unusually vindictive joy.
In years to come, history will remember Howard's reign poorly. Keating and Hawke will be remembered as being good/great leaders, Howard for being a good politician. Hopefully now that Rudd is in, he'll be more like a less-arrogant Keating.
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Here I was sitting trying to figure out an cool and articulate reply to Mr 'All Things 414s' post when along comes my old mate Nathan with the right words. So right Nathan.
I'm retired these days but in my 44 year work life I have owned my own businesses, worked for bosses in private industry and worked for three government departments, both Federal and State. I proudly carried a Union card for that entire career and while I admit that back in the sixties and seventies the unions were pushing the system to extremes, the situation these days is, as Nathan suggests much,much better. These days you'll find a much better line of communication between staff, management and the unions and in my experience haven't seen the pilfering, bludging, sickie mentality that '414' seems so frightened of for many years.
That's one of the main reasons the Howard government lost. By sprouting the "evil unions are going to destroy the economy" message with those disgraceful TV ads they showed the average Aussie worker just how out of touch they really were. The workers knew the real situation and voted accordingly.
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Well it's about as Aussie as running a previously profitable company into the ground, skimming millions off shareholders into your own offshore bank account, paying zero tax, cooking the books and receiving huge bonuses for it then when the whole thing implodes, workers find out their wages and or entitlements haven't been paid in years, shareholders have some worthless paper, but it's all fine because the 'enterpenur' declares himself bankrupt and after a couple of years starts up again borrows millions,buys a profitable business........ ::) ::)
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Well Messers "Firko", Messers "Nathan" and that other bloke I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
Enough of this. I'm going to have another look at that photo sent to me of Messers "Hartwell" passing a 490 Maico on his 414 in The States. Bleu!!
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Sorry. Hijacked another thread. I appologise!! :-*
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i just hope interest rates dont go up to 18% like they did in the mid 80s when hawke was in charge......ohh and wasnt unemployment up around 15% too compared with 5% today,but it was the "recession we had to have"that finally done in mr keating and put liberal in....anyway one slip up with our economy in the next year or two and liberal will be back in the next election.... ::)
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I might sell my house now and use the money to buy stuff from the US before we go back to 50 cents in the dollar. I do hope he's/labour is fair dinkum! Fingers crossed.
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Well it's about as Aussie as running a previously profitable company into the ground, skimming millions off shareholders into your own offshore bank account, paying zero tax, cooking the books and receiving huge bonuses for it then when the whole thing implodes, workers find out their wages and or entitlements haven't been paid in years, shareholders have some worthless paper, but it's all fine because the 'enterpenur' declares himself bankrupt and after a couple of years starts up again borrows millions,buys a profitable business........ ::) ::)
touche and 10 points ;D
An unscrupulous immoral a***hole is an unscrupulous immoral a***hole if he is a boss or a worker. It then becomes argumentative which group, bosses or workers have the greater number or who have the greater impact.
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Confession .... I do proudly wear my AMWU patch sown just under my employers logo and on my sleeve. Yes I get harassed in the street at times BY PEOPLE THAT HAVE ALL THE BENEFITS OF UNION STRUGGLES , HAVE YOUR GRIZZLES it is allowed WE LIVE IN A REASONABLY FREE COUNTRY. BUT STILL I FIGHT FOR FAIR AND JUST WORKPLACES!!!! :) AMWU Australian Manufacturing Workers Union . Don't say we cannot compete with other countries shocking wages and slave conditions !! Help and teach them how to fight right up to our hard fought for ideals. Tim 754 still pollies are pollies....... ;)
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Opinions shared or not of which government does good and bad for the country is a foregone conclusion ending on Saturday which only seems to be antogonising the ranks of VMX community, politicians in most instances are concerned with there own goals and desires and don't care about you or me, nor the two wheel community as a whole. In general terms, what will be different when we roll out of bed in the morning when we wake up, nothing if we don't want it to happen as we have that freedom of choice and probably should end there, why have an opinion in this website at all about politics when all it seems to do is cause friction between members who couldn't really care about politics but get drawn into slanging matches who's right and wrong, there is no correct answers, hindsight is a great quality we all possess. To have the foresight to see where this is going is an excellent quality, :-X Last post for me on this bullshit :)
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Sorry. I want the last word.
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And I thought VMX and politics didnt mix ::) :o ??? Wake up and smell the coffee, dont we come in here to get away from boring, bullshitting bastards like politians :o ::) ??? Who ever gets in will piss you off, put their hands in your pockets, lie to your face and generally do nothing and get paid alot of money for it. And then the worse of all..... in few years time they get to do it all over again. Get back to the real pleasures in life, VMX, beer and good mates.
I say it again
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Godspeed Bernie Banton, a good union man.
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As a firefighter I know that at least in my industry we would be in deep shit without a strong union and in fact it has only been in very recent times that firies in the US have actually set about setting up a country wide association (union) to at last protect their interests.
If it wasn't for the union and dare I say it successive Labor NSW state governments I would still be polishing the brass buttons on my old wool tunic and driving around in shitty old Inter's (ok ok - the current govt sucks but we can't have everything).
As a firey we couldn't get any personal insurance because our job is supposedly so dangerous (even though roofers for example are forever taking a dive, and people from other industries are constantly dying or getting seriously injured etc etc) so it was our union that pushed for Death and Disability allowance to cover the insurance shortfall
I say give Rudd a chance - if he turns out to be Rudd the dud then we'll sort it - Howard just DID NOT have any mandate to do what he did with our workplaces and he has paid a high price !!!
Vale Bernie Banton
Dave Mac
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And I thought VMX and politics didnt mix ::) :o ??? Wake up and smell the coffee, dont we come in here to get away from boring, bullshitting bastards like politians :o ::) ??? Who ever gets in will piss you off, put their hands in your pockets, lie to your face and generally do nothing and get paid alot of money for it. And then the worse of all..... in few years time they get to do it all over again. Get back to the real pleasures in life, VMX, beer and good mates.I say it again
Sorry, democracy and forum rules in cohoots. ;) :)
"GENERAL DISCUSSION.
Feel free to talk about anything and everything - c'mon in."
And after 6 pages in 4 days I think VMX forum members are happy to talk politics - at least for the short period around a General Election.
I find it interesting and even enjoy/respect contray strong views, held strongly and expressed strongly.
There's been a few tears but not too much blood on the floor ;D.
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I know it's a tad off topic but as someone who was lied to by two seperate government departments, thirty years apart about the dangers of asbestos, I have to stand back helplessly watching two good mates with whom I served my aprenticeship slowly die from the effects of the stuff. I humbly salute Bernie Banton and all that he stood for. A true working class hero.
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I've been so wrong. Thanks for showing me the true path........
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All things 414, to true about the general discussion(which I totally agree with and enjoy) but, all I read in this thread is a bunch of whinging people about the old government and a bunch of people whinging about the new government. Yeah I know thats politics, and I myself like a good discussion on the subject but, as I stated before, and you used my quote, I stand by what I say. I never stated not to discuss politics but, that their are maybe better subjects to debate. Tell me where I went wrong with what I said and I will humbly apologize. All I have said is that in some way they are all bad but, if for some fluke they get it right for most of the people then I will change my view and tip my hat to them. Just remember that when you put your hand into your pocket and you feel another already in there, its not mine. ;D ;D ;D
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If some of you guys need a reality check (which I reckon you do), look at the front page of the Sydney Daily Telegraph today. We have the outgoing Prime Minister*, the filthy lowlife scum John Howard, shaking hands with the incoming Prime Minister, the filthy lowlife scum Kevin Rudd*, handing over the keys to this great nation.
No suicide bombers, no assassinations, no bombings, no uproar, just a civilised handshake and walk off into the distance and hand over to the new master.
What a wonderful country we live in, that photo makes me so proud of who I am and what we all are.
* Your opinion, not mine
Wake up and smell the roses boys, we are blessed.
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Very deep Comrade Magoo...
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No no no no!
Magoo is posting and I can't disagree.
On the bright side, I finally get to disagree with my fellow YZ125 lovin' weirdo, DJR.
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NathanS good to see your alive and posting ;D. Which part do you disagree with? Thats its my hand? or that 'life is what you make it' thinking that I have, whoever the government of the day is? or that I am a yz125 lovin weirdo? :o
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If some of you guys need a reality check (which I reckon you do), look at the front page of the Sydney Daily Telegraph today. We have the outgoing Prime Minister*, the filthy lowlife scum John Howard, shaking hands with the incoming Prime Minister, the filthy lowlife scum Kevin Rudd*, handing over the keys to this great nation.
No suicide bombers, no assassinations, no bombings, no uproar, just a civilized handshake and walk off into the distance and hand over to the new master.
What a wonderful country we live in, that photo makes me so proud of who I am and what we all are.
* Your opinion, not mine
Wake up and smell the roses boys, we are blessed.
I don't talk politics or religion cos they both give me the shits , But as Magoo rightly says we are blessed and it is easy to take for granted that we were all fortunate to be born in the free world.
On a VMX note i was thumbing through some old classic bike mags recently and i came across a report of the legends race at Namur in July 89. All the greats were there , Jeff Smith , Dave Bickers , Decoster , Robert , Hallman , Lundin , Aberg etc etc, but the race report acknowledges the absence of the great Paul Frederich's 3 times world champion and open 2 stroke pioneer. The report goes on to say that the GDR would not let uncle Paul out of the GDR for the event.
Now this event was held in July 1989 and as history shows in Nov that year that pinnacle of human oppression (the Berlin wall ) was breached for ever and democracy was restored to millions of oppressed soles in the East.
I keep a small piece of that monument to Tyranny that i knocked off myself in my trophy cabinet , and when ever i think I'm getting a raw deal i take inspiration from that small block of concrete and apprecate how good Ive got it and always had it.
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Damn right Bill, and others who have observed the quality of life we are privileged to share and enjoy, I feel this is regularly reflected in the ongoing positively-charged atmosphere in which the vmx world operates, that thread that ran recently based on Where Are All The Old Guys, or similar, uncorked a volley of disparate but benevolent suggestions, and showed that by and large, contributors from all over the joint just want us all to work together to make sure we, and all our friends, have a good time on old bikes. So we can assume that plenty of us appreciate our fortunate lives, well done lads.
Also Bill, speaking of Jeff Smith, I note with interest he is heading your way for meetings in Wanganui and Nelson, make sure you get along and see him ride, but also hear him chat, cos not only is he still quick, and smooth as silk, but has a vault of fabulous grand prix mx yarns that appears bottomless, he is great value and still an excellent ambassador for the sport. Last time he raced in NZ (I think it may have been in 1970), he and Dave Bickers tied on points for the summer series in which they raced, so shared the trophy by hacksawing it in half down the middle, figuring that the individuality of the half-trophy each would have received would have made it an excellent talking point. Sadly, the series organisers didn't share their viewpoint, and took the news rather sulkily. However, that trophy has never re-appeared, and Smithy is pretty keen to get hold of it, so maybe you could get the deerstalker hat on and find out where it may be ?
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Now this event was held in July 1989 and as history shows in Nov that year that pinnacle of human oppression (the Berlin wall ) was breached for ever and democracy was restored to millions of oppressed soles in the East.
What a load of bull. The pinnacle of human oppression was it? You are from New Zealand, right?
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Now this event was held in July 1989 and as history shows in Nov that year that pinnacle of human oppression (the Berlin wall ) was breached for ever and democracy was restored to millions of oppressed soles in the East.
What a load of bull. The pinnacle of human oppression was it? You are from New Zealand, right?
No i am not FROM New Zealand , luke i am lucky enough to live in New Zealand , so do i take it you support the Red Set Comrade
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>:(It didn't take long, they were sworn in this morning and now there's talk of interest rate rises, fuels going up, :o Hasn't rained since the election, roofs going rusty........................bastard Labour, :-[ their to blame for everything. That's unless you blame Al-qaeda, bastards changing the climate, or those bloody migrant refo bastards, taking good $2.70 an hour jobs from us true ossie bludgers. Labour, they already have a lot to answer for, soon all farmers will be on collective farms and all bosses will be castrated, heads shaved and made to clean trains with toothbrushes. ::) It's all coming (That's what they said if the silver budgie got in) just wait and see.
Some of you need a bex an a lie down
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Some of you need bex an a lie down
It's spelt with an 's' Fool ;D.
But it take two to tango ::)
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But it take two to tango ::)
I'll get my dancing shoes on ol fella. ;D
Bloody Labour, hasn't rained since the election now two hours after they're sworn in the shed floods, bastards.