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Marque Remarks => British (BSA, Greeves, Triumph etc) => Topic started by: jimson on December 20, 2009, 10:24:17 pm
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G'day viewers just wondering if this would work. I have a BSA Starfire 1969 250 frame that looks a lot like a B50 frame and I have a Honda SL350 engine but the engine is not with me as yet. Would this engine marrie into the BSA frame ? and could I race it pre 70s ? :-\ jimson
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If it was a very early electric start SL350 maybe, easier to try an find an early CL350 or CL450 complete and work on that. Into the Starfire frame a lot of work and any benefits well Hmmm don't know.
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why bother Honda frame will be just as good and probably lighter
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg71/marcFX_photo/IMG_7755.jpg)
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Marc I just want something different thats all. That pic you put up I have as a sceen saver if thats what you call it. I think the frame has been changed as you can't see the pressed back bone like on all the early Honda's. Tim I shouldn't say pre 70 race as I'm yet to race pre anything :-[ jimson
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I have a few more photos of that bike, I will find out what went into it.
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(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg71/marcFX_photo/IMG_7787-1.jpg)
try this one I think it is cool as all get out
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Can't beat the beautiful sound those early Honda twins make!! A shame to muffle them.
Mike
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Have to agree with you Mike. I flat tracked a 350sl Honda(late 70's). We split the pipes under the motor and had reverse cone megaphone on each pipe coming just behind the foot pegs. Never won anything but sounded good ::) . Darcy
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i HAVE A BSA A7 / A10 FRAME AND WAS THINK ABOUT PUTTING A HONDA TWIN IN IT FOR EXAMPLE CB 72- 77 350 TWIN, NOW SOMWHERE IN ONE OF THESE THREADS, THERE WAS A PHOTO OF A TWIN IN A BSA FRAME. DOES ANYBODY REMEMBERS THAT PHOTO.
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Dot look at reply 5 is that the bike your on about mine will look a little later mod then that one. jimson
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Yes, your looks great, is the engine in that photo is it a cb 72 or 77.
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Dot that is not mine :o but the engine looks old school Honda it would be 60s for sure mine will be a SL350 1970 engine in a frame that looks like a BSA B50 frame but is a 1969 BSA starfire frame. jimson
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maybe like this one
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg71/marcFX_photo/IMG_7800.jpg)
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say motor but the engine is in a metisse frame or bsa frame
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In the late 60s there was a guy from Mt Isa who used to ride his 305 honda, I think it was a CL77 all the way to Townsville, trials tyres strapped on the back, to race short circuit. End of day, he'd change tyres, refit the muffler, and ride all the way back! Can't remember his name, but I remember the Beautiful Noise that bike made.
One afternoon a week before the Nth Qld short circuit titles, a friend and I decided to see if we could fit a honda C92 - suitably fitted with the camshaft, pistons and megaphones from the road race kit, into a plunger BSA bantam frame. What a rough job!!
Got OK for a late nomination for the titles, and showed up on the day.
Took it out for practice, it went like a rocket.
Much faster than all the other Yam twins, Bridgestones, Suzukis & Honda 90s.
Sounded better too!
Surprise, surprise, told late nomination wouldn't be accepted, not allowed to race.
Ended up riding the bike at Mackay speedway against 500cc stockbike class. They weren't worried, even if it beat a couple.
Mike
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(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg71/marcFX_photo/IMG_7787-1.jpg)
Seat is genius, tall option for MX and then whip it off and fit a pony pad for trials
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VMX mag issue 40 page 25 bottom left hand corner the bike in the pic looks very close to the pic you've put up here Marc. jimson
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VMX mag issue 40 page 25 bottom left hand corner the bike in the pic looks very close to the pic you've put up here Marc. jimson
thats probably not surprising ;D
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I will find out what frame they used for you
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I've got a very low use (85 genuine miles from new)305 Honda C77 engine that's a mates Dad bought as a wrecked Honda Dream in 1962, intending to build a road racer. He never got to the project and it sat under his bench for 40 years until his son gave it to me a few years ago. It's still got the original oil and spark plugs! I've attempted to fit the motor to my Cotton, Bultaco Metisse and little Hindall frames but the projects never got past first base for a variety of technical reasons. I spotted the Yetman article (below)on the Eurospares website and have had my American spys searching for one ever since. I came close last year but the seller figured I was a rich foreign collector and bunged a stupid price (7k for a rusty, basket case fitted with a wrong and siezed later CB250 engine) Another bare frame went for $400 on the Swapmeet a couple of years ago but I was too late. I've got enough to keep me going for a while so I'll hang out for the right Yetman that'll eventually show up.
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1062154/BolgerYetmanHonda%20eurospares.jpg)
http://images.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl=http://www.eurospares.com/graphics/Yetman/BolgerYetmanHonda670875.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.eurospares.com/graphics.htm&usg=__axdkI8o5YERjtwFDpN7viBzMWXQ=&h=872&w=658&sz=125&hl=en&start=1&itbs=1&tbnid=-YQV_achdhk8QM:&tbnh=146&tbnw=110&prev=/images%3Fq%3DYetman%2BHonda%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG (http://images.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl=http://www.eurospares.com/graphics/Yetman/BolgerYetmanHonda670875.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.eurospares.com/graphics.htm&usg=__axdkI8o5YERjtwFDpN7viBzMWXQ=&h=872&w=658&sz=125&hl=en&start=1&itbs=1&tbnid=-YQV_achdhk8QM:&tbnh=146&tbnw=110&prev=/images%3Fq%3DYetman%2BHonda%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG)
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Nice Frame and Very Nice bike, l would race that
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G'day Marc the penny just dropped it is you that did the Jap article on VMX in Japan in the latest VMX mag good work ;) looks like there was lots of different bikes to look at you lucky bugger ;D jimson
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Yeah I was a little surprised at the amount of Honda twins that were running. But really I think they are pretty non competitive so people bring the interesting bikes rather than class winners. I am talking to some guys who built alot of the works alloy gas tanks, so might get something....glad you liked the story, I enjoyed doing it. ;D
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You realize JI wont ever talk to you now you had an an article "PUBLISHED" in VMX mag Marc, can you live with yourself?, good article though. You should be able to get some good contacts over their.
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Thanks for that I was trying to do an interesting piece that had a few cool bikes, and of course give some recognition of how far the local scene has come in 10 years. There seems to be a lot of interest in the Hondas, I also liked them so I will find out more. As for getting published, I didn't have any great expectation as I am not a crazy expert photographer, but I write a lot of market reports so that part was easy for me. I tried to bring something interesting and a little different, glad you like it.
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i think ive offened ji gantor too ,he seems to have taken his duct tape and gone missing again .maybee its time to put my news years resolution in place , btw nice piece marc
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thanks Paul however I am not that familiar with JI and not sure why he would be offended. Anyway I have access to a few interesting bikes and am getting an impression of what be interesting to everyone else. The Honda twins are running big bore kits (I think RSC) and a lot of fruit. Interesting alternative to Ricky or Cheney.