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« Reply #555 on: May 02, 2008, 08:35:29 pm »
The 'Nathan roosting punters' photo is a crack up - I'm pretty sure this is when I was actually dawdling back to the pits because the seat was falling off, and I had to sit down to hold it on....  :D

But the camera never lies!  ;D

Excellent photos, gents.
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« Reply #556 on: May 02, 2008, 09:27:37 pm »
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KB171 - a picture of concentration

more like a picture of retrospect. Love the old gear KB, obviously the gas bottle trick worked  ;) this pic could have been taken in the early 70's such is the attention to detail keeping firmly within the required pre'75 era 8) there should have been an award for this also. In case anyone doesn't recognize this bike, it was the one leaning against the fence with grass growing around it in another post a while back..pretty amazing transformation eh!  ;)
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« Reply #557 on: May 02, 2008, 10:56:28 pm »
Nice pics Tony,aint it amazing how the track looks fairly dry, err yes Doc the 34 yr old leathers were retro fitted to a 9 kg gas bottle for week or so, they were a loose fit 1974, must've shrunk i spose ;)

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« Reply #558 on: May 03, 2008, 07:43:08 am »
Here's a few shots of the Kevlar Kompound at CD5

My DT1 cuddles up to Mark Austins RT2 while my Maico seems to look on. Jonseys monocoque Hagon Yamaha is to the right and my new Ducati (57) sits behind. Billy Forsyths Montesa Cota and my Maico trials bike are in the foreground.

An ever smiling Jonsey fettles Ugly Betty while Phippsy lays shit on the paint scheme.

Pete Rowlands great billet Jawa blender and the KK Bling Award. Wazza Jacks lovely PE250 sits behind.
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« Reply #559 on: May 03, 2008, 07:57:29 am »
How many of you walked past this little bike without giving it a second glance? This bike is the actual Victa (lawnmower company) works bike of Ray Dole sr that won the Australian 125 Motocross Championships back in 1961. It's unrestored and is still very quick for what it is. It's the only Australian made bike to ever win an Australian Championship of any kind. The little Victa deserves its place in history.
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« Reply #560 on: May 03, 2008, 08:10:53 am »
even more amazing to me is that the Victa got track time, its got any interesting history, got any more info Firko on this one (how it came to be, etc) ?


the Klub Kevlar Kompound looked huge with so many bikes in there.
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« Reply #561 on: May 03, 2008, 09:47:38 am »
I did have a good look at what I first thought a bantam and fell in love with it Firko. Twin carbs, simple linkages, toecutter barrel and what appeared Victa ignition (I maybe wrong with the ignition) a top little bike!  ;) KB, the track does look amazingly inviting in most shots but I for one wimped out on actual riding excepting the SL100 kangarooing everywhere trying to break the clutch plates free :( incidently they are still stuck! bugger! ::)  Truth is I was having just as much of a good time wandering around flapping my gums and straining my optics. 3 days went very fast!!  ;D
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« Reply #562 on: May 03, 2008, 09:53:00 am »
Yeah the boys with the Bantam were camped near us and we gave it the Rat bike award .loved it. Geez Firko how many Shed hours in getting all those bikes on show .I loved them all .
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« Reply #563 on: May 03, 2008, 10:29:24 am »
The Bantams story is a great one that you'll have to wait for in a future VMX. I'm soon going to interview old Ray senior about the Victa and its history and get some more shots of it. A brief version is that Ray was the workshop foreman at Victa and he started mucking around with Victa barrels on his racing Bantams. Eventually he developed a complete Victa bike, frame and all, that was I believe lost in a bushfire. The bike at CD5 is the actual bike that won the title in 1961 and is a complete Victa engine grafted to a Beeza Bantam 3 speed trans and in a Bantam frame. I had a bit of a yarn with old Ray at the Wagga Dirt Track Nats and the story of the bikes development and Victas 'almost' going into motorcycle production should be a pretty interesting yarn.

A lot of work went into getting the Kevlar bikes to CD5. My Duke and Maico trials bike were a pile of parts a week before the event as I had some severe family illness dramas that stopped the projects dead in their tracks. That's why they were both unfinished but at least I got 'em there. Jonsey built Ugly Betty in a fortnight long frenzy as well as rebuilding Black Betty and getting the monocoque Hagon reasonably presentable. We made a concerted effort to display some of the sports more obscure bikes as a sort of magical mystery tour of the short travel days.
For what it's worth here's a list of the bikes we had on display.

Firko: 1970 Maico 350, 1973 Maico trials special, 1964 Hindall Ducati, 1968 Yamaha DT1.
Alan Jones: Black Betty (Eso Metisse), Ugly Betty (Honda 125 Metisse), 1978 Hagon Vic Eastwood replica monocoque TT500 Yamaha.
Edgar Phipps: ESO Metisse, ex Terry Gunter TRIBSA, 1964 Monark Triumph, Honda Elsinore 490 4 stroke, 1983 500 Maico.
Bernie Ellis: '81 Maico 490 Mega 2, 1982 Suzuki PE400Z.
Warren Jack: 1978 Suzuki PE250, 1974 Yamaha TY250A.
"Jake" Jacobs. Yamaha YZ250F, Yamaha YZ125f
David Tanner: 1974 Suzuki RN400, 1974 Suzuki RH250, 195? AJS 16H, 1979Kawasaki KX125.
Frank Stanborough: Manx Norton Metisse, 1960 Matchless G80 Trials bike (ex works)
Peter Rowland: 1969 mK 4 Bultaco Pursang Boat tail and Jawa and Maico themed blenders.
Garry Hodge, 1976 OSSA Desert Phantom.
Billy Forsyth: Montesa Cota.


We are already formulating next years display as we speak and you can be assured that it'll be a bigger and better.
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« Reply #564 on: May 03, 2008, 10:39:36 am »

Here's a world first, A Kevin Browns Husky trials bike faces off against my Maico trials special. Pretty good considering neither company ever made a trials bike.

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« Reply #565 on: May 03, 2008, 11:08:40 am »
G'day Firko,

when time permits can you post or email me some pics of the following Kevlar Bikes, interesting stuff indeed.

1964 Hindall Ducati.
ex Terry Gunter TRIBSA, 1964 Monark Triumph, Honda Elsinore 490 4 stroke, 1983 500 Maico.
Manx Norton Metisse
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« Reply #566 on: May 03, 2008, 11:43:40 am »
Hoony.
I have a number of pic's of that 490 4 stroke Elsinore including engine shots. If you would like copies PM me an email address.

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« Reply #567 on: May 03, 2008, 04:17:56 pm »
Well I have just made it in the door of my house and I'm still buzzing from CD5. First off I would like to thank a few people who helped me, Karen and Bill.
Doc, you are everything Bill said you are, a true fair dinkum aussie legend, the pinnacle of a true VMXer who lives and breathes old dirt bikes. I was honoured to meet you.
Dodgee, Thanks so much for the gear shifter, and the look on your face every time TM Bill came near you was classical, I know how you feel, ya never know what he will say or do next. I loved that little Honda of yours too, it was a work of art and thinking outside the box, very cool.

Brad and Lynette, without your generosity I believe I would be still building my bike on the Pacific Highway somewhere, and lets face it, even with a Navman I still managed a 2 hour detour all over Brisbane, so from Myself, Karen and Bill, Thank you very much for letting us stay at your beautiful home, and for allowing me to leave my bike in your shed so I can come over to ride again with all you Aussie VMXers.

Ajay, my take on CD5 is, if I had have known it was going to be so cool Thursday night, I would have thrown myself on the footpath before you took the big step. Just keep doing what you are doing, the people who turn up are the ones who make or break an event like that, and from what I saw everyone was having fun.
Firko, your stories and recollections of times gone by were a real treat and they need to be told the only way you told them, sitting around a bbq with a few drinks and a good drop of laughter, keep passing your knowledge on big fella, it needs to be shared.
Magoo, Craig T warned us he had a twin brother but he didn’t warn us that you had one, and after seeing that picture in the other thread I understand why. Keep wearing that spider shirt and spinning your web, great to meet you.
Oldfart, only a kiwi would have a DR to round the sheep up, but you would be doing it in style on your bike.
Vandy, your work on the MX is without doubt inspirational, you have made me think I need to build another bike or at least do more work to the Noguchi so that the engine is closer to pre75 than pre78. Without all the talking and sharing of ideas this sport wouldn’t be as good as it is. I will be watching the progress (racing) of your bike with keen interest so keep me informed, thanks Mick.
Nathan and Anna, finally we got to meet, about bloody time too. What can I say that won’t upset you or provoke a biting response (na, just joking Nathan). I hope all goes well for you and Anna on the soon to be new addition to the family and I’m not talking about the bikes you bought over the weekend.
Tony, yeah you should have bought your gear, but if you’re like me just being there is what it’s all about. I’m looking forward to catching up with you at the next event, be it here or over there.
Hilly, first I would like to say I’m sorry about hearing the lost of one of your bikes, I hope you get it back. As for cd5 you looked like you were enjoying it nearly as much as me. I hope you get the YZ250J sorted soon and I know you’ll have as much fun on that as you did Saturday night listening to Ajay and the band.
Wombat, I have never laughed as much as Sunday night. I blame you and the scallops for what turned out to be one of those nights. Of course Bill didn’t help with the commentary of the video with him and Joel in it. A night to remember.
Mark Austin, what a great bloke, a true ambassador of VMX. I hope to see you racing in NZ.

To the other great guys I meet, Fatboyracing and the Tassie crew, Walter, Twisty, Lozza, Graeme and so many others that I know I have forgotten to mention, thanks for a great weekend and I wish you well and hope to see you again at CD6, unless you make it over to NZ to rip up our dirt. If I can repay your hospitality in any way I would be very happy to do so…….

See ya’s all around in the forum

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« Reply #568 on: May 03, 2008, 04:51:05 pm »
A fine, upstanding group of gentlemen if I have ever seen one  ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #569 on: May 03, 2008, 04:52:15 pm »
i know a few, but lets put some names to the faces.
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