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Offline BETRIC

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Re: Best RM MODEL??
« Reply #30 on: September 17, 2009, 06:30:44 am »
The 83 RM250D fitted with an 82 RM250 head and DG pipe does it for me ;D, it gets its performance back to up 82 RM standard with the bonus of better gearbox ratio's and suspension (longer s/arm, improved shock and larger forks), Suzuki mellowed out the RM in 83 with a different head design ??? 
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« Reply #31 on: September 17, 2009, 08:26:08 am »

The 125X and 250Z were indeed seminal bikes. Both models stood on the shoulders of the giants of the RM series that had gone before. In Suzuki's typically conservative style they used ideas that had been first developed elsewhere (watercooling and mono/linkage rears), but put it into a package that was so trick it simultaneously reduced the 'hop-up' accessory market to suppliers of nothing more relevant than 'single-sided airfilters' and established the fundamental layout of the (two-stroke) mxer as it is raced to this day. Except for one exception, of course, USD forks. Karmic justice in a way then that the aftermarket guys forced the final evolution on a grudging Suzuki in the form of the Simons UDX60s before the end of the 250Zs model year. For me though, there's a little more irony, in that as class structures stand, these bikes are unlikely to be 'remembered' by race-grids in the modern age. As long as those structures penalise ground-breaking bikes by effectively making them the oldest bikes (and therefore 'least developed' bikes) in their age bracket, so we'll probably see less of them raced than their technical achievements really deserve. I know its not necessarily that simple, because some of the looming 'seas of red' of 82/83/84/85 CR Hondas are potentially at risk from magnesium case-cancer. Whatever happens competition-wise, if you've got a nice low-hour unrestored 125x or 250Z I'd be hanging on to it.......and the RM370b of course.

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« Reply #32 on: September 17, 2009, 10:09:45 am »
Heres my 20 cents
1981 RM 125X (owned one now resides with a famous Taupo Vmxer) great engine simply the best RM 125 ever in my opinion
1982 RM 250Z owned one, a  great bike and it got my evil twin his first trophy.
1984 RM 500E dont have one but I am building a 465Z engined 500D framed beast and cant wait to ride it.
1984 RM 125E peaky engine but looked trick and great suspension (still have it)

Also currently rebuilding a 1983 RM 250D with the Z head and twinair box and 85 disc front end (we are pre 86 over here).

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« Reply #33 on: September 17, 2009, 01:34:01 pm »
same old same old - I kick myself for selling mine end of last year - what a wanker! (250Z that is)
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« Reply #34 on: September 17, 2009, 08:46:44 pm »
i love my 250z better than my 500d i had
« Last Edit: September 19, 2009, 06:34:51 pm by Graeme M »

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« Reply #35 on: September 19, 2009, 06:41:48 am »
PS Rossco you idiot-what were you thinking??? selling the Z for a red lemon???? ;)

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« Reply #36 on: September 19, 2009, 03:02:23 pm »
I just sold a RM 250Z that I spent a bit of time and money restoring, yes it was a great bike to ride, the power and handling was second to none but at a grass roots level it was a lightly engineered bike that was typical of everything else on offer in the early eighties. A stand out bike for me was a RM 400N, at least you could say that Suzuki put thier nads on the line and went all or nothing to break the mould - anyway thats from my humble perspective.

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« Reply #37 on: September 19, 2009, 05:02:12 pm »
Craig - it wasn't quite like that.  I sold it coz there was no where to ride it - I bought the Honda to help somebody out?  But I cans ee where you are coming from !!!!! ::) ::)
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« Reply #38 on: September 19, 2009, 08:25:52 pm »
Yes I know Rossco you are a humanitarian LOL mate

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« Reply #39 on: September 19, 2009, 11:04:23 pm »
yer i will go with micheal jackson on this one a.b.c its easy as 123.

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« Reply #40 on: September 20, 2009, 07:23:20 am »
gotta be the 81 125x as this was before the 250z and therfore more ground breaking.
Once suzuki had the 125 success it must have confirmed the way to take the 250z.
I personally feel that the 125x wiped out the competition more than the 250z did.


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« Reply #41 on: September 20, 2009, 08:17:52 pm »
In my time racing (80's), the 125x seemed to be the bike to have, I think for its handling more than anything else. I had a 250Z and rate it as the worst bike i owned. I bought it a season old so maybe it was too flogged. It seemed to disintegrate under me. The motor was strong for sure. I couldn't afford two new bikes for the season. Seems that Suzuki had their shit together in '77.

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« Reply #42 on: September 23, 2009, 03:01:49 pm »
I have a 125 S ,125 B x 3  ,250 B, 250 d, have had 125 T and 250 T  and a 88 250(best pre 90 by far).My favorite to ride is the 125S they just handle and rev etc etc sounds like you are riding fast even if you ain't. ;D . The 250 D has the grunt and plush suspension and would be my choice if it was very rough or had to ride all day  ie hare scramble.
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« Reply #43 on: July 20, 2010, 02:52:25 pm »
Not many big bore bikes on the list ..what about the rm465z 83 model ?
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« Reply #44 on: July 20, 2010, 11:00:58 pm »
the 465Z was an 82 model, they went to the 500D in 83.
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