Greeves outfit

[cyclegod]

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[mx250]

That rear sprocket is worth the price of admission . I bet that would be a real eyepopper, talking point and conversation starter. I wouldn't like to find a replacement though .......

[albrid-3]

Last sunday, l went to a trials meeting Which was ran by the Geelong Sporting Club at Anakie, it was excellent. a lot of riders having fun, from young girls, and boys, dads and mums, plus the trials bicycles,also these guy where excellent to watch, plus sidecar trials bikes, these guys also where brillant to watch. l am looking at buying a trials bike, l think it would be very good my son, to bring out his confidence. There would have been over 60 riders at the meeting.

[albrid-3]

This bike is a little ripper.

[albrid-3]

Gee, it must be hard for some people to make comment about such a nice machine or just hard to make conversion.

[David Lahey]

Hey allbrid, I'll comment. I'm a 1965 to 1980 trials bike nut and I don't actually recognise that trials bike with the red frame, but to me it looks like a bike made up from 1960s parts and a recently designed and built frame and fuel tank. Hows that - was I close?

[albrid-3]

I think your spot on, the engine  is a 98cc Jawa, the is a specially built frame.

[David Lahey]

For that sort of bike there are classes in the US and the UK where the only limitation is that they are air-cooled, drum brakes and twin shocks, so you see many bikes like that one.
In Australia there are major component age cut-offs for Twinshock and Classic classes.

[albrid-3]

So do you ride trials, and what era. and bike model.

[David Lahey]

Yes I have ridden Trials, Enduros, Pony Express, long distance dirt touring and even MX.
I've been riding Trials competition since 1974 continuously except for a gap from 1981 to 1988.
I stopped riding Enduros and Pony Express in 2000 due to suffering a string of serious injuries.
My current bikes used in competition are a TY175 special, TY250B, TY250A, 250 Yamaha Godden Majesty, KT250, OSSA MAR, Cota 348 and Sherpa T M49. I have had the TY175 since 1976. There is also a Sherpa T M198 in the process of being prepared for competition and about as many bikes again that I am keeping for spare parts.
My other ride bikes are a M138 Alpina and an RM250C with a DR400 motor in it that I built in 1979.
My kids ride trials too and the older one is just big enough to ride our TY80.
I only like trials bikes made before 1981 - I have little emotional connection with bikes made after then.
I ride trials locally (coastal central Queensland) and our club has quite a few twinshock riders. The local trial last weekend had 16 twinshocks in a total field of 30 bikes.
I also ride trials away from the local area when my work permits, the favourites being the Queensland Titles, Conondale Twinshock and Classic Masters, Brooweena Twinshock-only Trial and the excellent Twinshock-only trials run in the Hunter Valley by the Denman MCC.

[All Things 414]

I think F.U.F. would know a bit about trials.....

[albrid-3]

Years ago l owned a KT250,MONTESA COTA 250, TY 250, BETA REV3 270 2005 MODEL. But l have be racing and involve with vintage mx since 1990, have owned  BULTACO Pursang, Montesa 66 La cross, 67 Cappra 250, 68 Cappra 250, 69 Cappra 360, 125 Cappra, Yamaha DTI MX 250 1972, 1974 MODEL, yAMAHA MX 125 ,DKW 125S, KTM from 1972 to 1981, Husqvarna 125, Mag 250, 1967 250, Greeves MDS, 250, Challangers, Hawkstone 250,
Cotton Cobra 250, Cotton Cougar 250, YZ 250A,YZ250B,YZ125A, OSSA Phantom, CZ 125 Yellow tankers, CMS FRAMES 400, CZ 250 1972Model. Monark 500, BSA 500 Metisse, Bultaco 250 Metisse , Bultaco 250 Boat tail 1969 Model MK3, Sherps s 200, SWM MC 125, Honda RC 250, 3X 73 model  Honda cr 250, 4x 73 model Honda 125 cr, Yamaha YDS 2, xl 350, xr 250, xr 200, Kawasaki F11 250, 74,76 KX 250, 4X Montesa VR 250. Maico MC 250 1974, Maico gs 250 1973-74, 1972 SQUARE Barrel 250, Suzuki TM 250. Hodaka 125, 100cc, Dirt Quirts. pLUS LOTS MORE. I will be racing at Connondale  Australia Titles On the 7th August, on my CZ 250, It will be on ebay for sale, at that time, and looking to get involve with Trials here in Victoria.
I Started racing in 1972, have raced Rallies Cross at Calder Parks, Pony exspress, Trials, Motorcross, enduro,But mainly Motorcross.

[David Lahey]

So which bikes do you still ride (apart from the CZ 250) and what bikes are you going to ride in trials on?
I'm sure you will have a great time riding trials again. There are lots of us oldies out there having a ball.

[albrid-3]

I only have the cz now, all my bikes are gone, just keep on rollin don`t look back,desiding on the model, vintage trials or later model trials bikes, l do like the honda TLR. but hard to fine, looking for a Ty 175 or 125 for my son. What do you think

[David Lahey]

Late model trials bikes are lots easier to ride than twinshocks for learners, mainly because of their lighter weight. If you are going for a late model, get something that was built after the upside down fork fad finished and after the introduction of four-piston front brakes. Post 2001 is a good starting point without it getting too complicated with what brand had what in which year.
Smaller motors (125 and 200) are easier to kick over, but are quite rare second hand. All 125cc to 290cc two stroke models of modern bikes of the one brand share a common frame and suspension.
125cc to 290cc suitable for over 50kg riders.
80cc modern bikes (gearbox models) are perfect for people of 30kg to 55kg
50cc modern bikes (gearbox models) for people 25kg to 40kg
50cc (auto clutch) bikes and electric bikes for 20kg to 35kg
I would only ever recommend a twinshock bike for someone who had a genuine love for old bikes. They are less confidence-inspiring than a modern for learners, and rider development will be difficult once the basics have been accomplished.
For smaller riders, the TY175 is the perfect twinshock trials bike. They were easily the most popular twinshock trials bike ever made, and retain that popularity in use today. The main benefit is their light weight and smooth power delivery. They are about 10kg lighter than the popular 250 and bigger bikes.
Yes the TLRs are a nice bike if you like four-strokes. Too modern for my tastes though.
TY125s are very rare here and otherwise the same as the TY175. Most that were brought in by owners have been converted to 175cc.