Mark Webber breaks through for first F1 win

[monaro308]

Watched it last night and yeah Mark was robbed and i think he has vettell rattled at the moment.
At least he came out of it to get points and a 3rd place...gonna be some interesting times at Redbull coming up.

[TT]

I'm thinking exactly the same thing, but if you read Red Bull's take on it, they reckon Mark should have let him past! 

I must admit that I was a Mark Webber nay-sayer a couple of years ago, but he's proven me wrong especially in the way he speaks and deals with things when it does go wrong.

[monaro308]

I thought Mark did let him pass but Vettel turned in too early to stay on the clean line....i don't think he's learn't how to use the mirrors yet.
Maybe it's Redbulls way of dealing with Mark's Ferrari rumours.
Its probably their way of working out deals because a German driver and interest will always bring in more money and sponsorship deals than an Aussie ever will.
Mark should just keep on keeping on and stick it up Vettell and keep proving that he has the goods...which everyone can now see.
I think he was busting too let loose in the interview but held it well... good on him

[IT400C]

one of the telecasts post-race said Webber had gone to fuel saving mode that lap, while Vettel had 1 more lap at full power (he'd saved some fuel behind Mark), which is why he could get the extra accelleration out of the corner....

Did you see the post race press conference?  While Button was talking to microphone, Hamilton and Webber were talking.  Hamilton mimed theat from his view (behind Vettel), it looked that Vettel pulled alongside and turned right.  Mark just nodded....

[Lozza]

Seems Vettel, Horner, Marko and Red Bull supremo Deitrich Materschitz(I just like writing that name) are to only peole in the world who have Weber as the cause of the coming together

In GPweek Weber was quoted as saying to journo's to 'dig deeper' into the story

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8714410.stm

[vmx42]

I am not sure that Mark has read the script correctly… he was supposed to the be solid number 2 who was there to support the young up and comer. Experienced and solid, not a true threat for the title.

There was no need to formalise his #2 status because he wasn't going to be a regular threat on the track, but then something changed and his results have gone through the roof and the young German isn't dealing with it terribly well.

It was a rash and slightly desparate move that showed that Vettel still has a lot to learn.

You can see that Mark knows that this is his time to shine, especially after soldiering on in the other teams he has driven for. He is in a good car and he is now showing his true ability. Good to see he isn't going to roll over just because certain members of the team think he should.

You can bet the next time Vettel tries to pass him he will give him more room. Gotta love a bit of good old aussie agro…

Almost makes watching F1 entertaining again.
VMX42



And a shout of thanks to Martin Brundle for telling the world who was really at fault…

[monaro308]

Well said VMX42,totally agree.
A true racer doesn't lie down when his qualifying results speak for themselves.
If he was consistantly slower than Vettel,fair enough....but he ain't and the times are showing that so why should he yeild for being faster than his team mate!
Mark is on the top teams radar now so the only way is up from here.
RedBull can only stay on top for so long until the other catch....and that will happen.
With new tyre contracts and the rumour of small capacity turbos again....Marks time is now and if Redbull wants him to be #2 the best remedy to make them look silly is to win when you are unwanted(if thats the case)

[jerry]

Have you actually drank a can of Red Bull? Jerry

[monaro308]

I can honestly say no....never drank it or need to.
We are are taking about a racing oganisation...not a drink sponsor.

[PB20]

Great race and apparent pro-euro/team owner/german preference showing up in Vettles shitty on track attitude toward a team mate. These pricks think world championships are bought or handed to them on a platter. Webber basically told Vettle to 'get a big dog up ya mate!'

Reminds me of when Schumacher used to punt everyone off the track to win, worst thing for F1 ever. In a Top Gear interview he mentioned he didnt see any problem doing that so long as the means justified the end.

[mainline]

Great race and apparent pro-euro/team owner/german preference showing up in Vettles shitty on track attitude toward a team mate. These pricks think world championships are bought or handed to them on a platter. Webber basically told Vettle to 'get a big dog up ya mate!'

Reminds me of when Schumacher used to punt everyone off the track to win, worst thing for F1 ever. In a Top Gear interview he mentioned he didnt see any problem doing that so long as the means justified the end.

reminds me of a story I read a while back about Peter Collins handing over his Ferrari to Fangio at the Italian GP in about '57 (Fangio was aged in his mid 40's by that stage) when Fangio's car had broken and he was in the lead in the race and the title chase. The clincher being that Collins could have won the championship if he hadn't have done what he did. The difference between then and now.

and then there's the story behind this gem of a bike http://www.ma.org.au/index.php?id=605

The 1968 Australian Grand Prix at Bathurst is an event still talked about. Toombs disappeared into the distance to make it three Senior Bathurst wins in a row, and had the Unlimited GP shot to pieces as well until he fell on an oil patch on the final lap. As he struggled to right the G50, second placed Bill Horsman stopped and waited for Ron to remount, still holding the lead! Bill reckons the race was morally Ron’s, but his sportsmanship almost backfired when his own Norton ran out of fuel on the last corner. To complete a remarkable series of events, Jack Ahearn, in third place, idled along behind Horsman until he had pushed over the line to claim the runner up spot! It wouldn’t happen today.

[Lozza]

ASK SEBASTIAN

Comments are priceless, wonder how long they will be there(just click on the 'more')

[mx250]

ASK SEBASTIAN

Comments are priceless, wonder how long they will be there(just click on the 'more')

There was no 'more'  .

But gee the Fans comments took him to task.

"Seb, The majority of the media is calling you a petulant brat and a spoilt child, and it is obvious to all outside the team that they favour you."

"Lost what little respect I had for you on the weekend,"

"Seb, why arent you owning up to your failure like a man?"

"When are you quitting formula 1?"

[monaro308]

Lol....love the comments #62 and 56 made me spit my cuppa 

[Lozza]

There is a small 'more' at the bottom of the screen, about post #20 they go into 'we luv u Seb' pre-pubestant stuff

Most of them come from Australia surprise surprise...................