78 Evo & Pre 85 Titles

[JohnnyO]

When you run the 2010 titles Johnny , you can propose all that and perhaps give it a try.

Wasp.. Kiss my arse.
This is a forum where everyone is entitled to an opinion, not just you.

[Nathan S]

I think its a good idea.

It eliminates (any excuse for) a lot of the friction and discontent regarding track lay-out, track condition, and riders.
It would also mean a much less packed schedule for organsiers to try to fit into a weekend.

The Evo/Pre-85 event could even run pre-90 as a demo class if they wanted.

The main bad point that I can see, is that someone who wanted to chase championships in across both eras would need to attend two different events (meaning more time off work, etc).
On the flip side, it would mean that they could concentrate on a particular era all weekend without having to re-adjust to wildly different bikes during the event.


Edit: I'd include the pre-78 bikes with the pre-75 and older bikes, rather than with the Evo+ bikes. This makes sense based on the number of riders in the classes (at events I've been to), and the bikes (remembering that most pre-78 bikes are closer to 7/4" of travel than 12/12" that's typical of the Evo bikes).

[090]

Yeah i was just talking about it the other day. In a perfect world , two separate events / titles to cater up to and including pre '75, and another catering for pre '78 to pre '85.
I wish that the titles coming up were split up with different eras on different days. That way you are riding the same bike/s all day. Next day, different bikes. I will also say that i do very little to help so i happily go with what has been organised by the great people that put in the hard yards ( hows that for brown nosing  ? )

[AjayVMX]

A couple of observations I'd like to make:

1. In the USA, they often run the AHRMA nationals as two separate events, with Vintage (Pre 75) on the Saturday and then Post-Vintage (pre 85) on the Sunday.  If they have the facility they also add some jumps and stuff to the Sunday track, to keep the later bikes interested.  So people can run a pre 75 bike on the Saturday and then, if they feel like it, also run a pre 85 the following day.

2. I am very surprised that the Vintage Nats are being considered for Broadford - why not Barrabool, now that it has been given the lifeline by the VIC State government?  Surely Barrabool is a better track for Vintage nats in any case?

[JohnnyO]

Sounds like the US have got it sorted with 2 seperate events over the weekend.
I'd have to agree with you that Barrabool is the better track for a Vintage National.

[BAHNZY]

Do you think that MA and it's local affiliate MV would be prepared to give away a National Event at their own faility over a club track, particulary when they have a club to run the event at Broadford.
That said, Barrabool is one of my favorite tracks but it miles away from the facility levels of Broadford.
Broadford can be made Pre75 friendly with the right machine operator. Weather and conditions aside, Classic Dirt showed that to be the case.

[JohnnyO]

I have to admit i did enjoy riding Broadford at CD4 but Barrabool has always been a favourite of mine since the Thumper Nats days. If Broadford has better facilities for an Aussie Title then maybe it's the way to go.

[Viper666]

but it miles away from the facility levels of Broadford.

I must have been to a different Broadford, or have they improved in the passed 2 years?


Viper666

[VMX247]

So who is going to step up to the plate for next years Nationals ? pre65-pre85 and sidecars,
time is of the essence. 
cheers

[AjayVMX]

So who is going to step up to the plate for next years Nationals ? pre65-pre85 and sidecars,
time is of the essence. 
cheers

Which year do you mean?  If you mean 2010, I don't think there's any stepping up to do as I suspect it's already a done deal. 

If you mean 2011, my understanding is that our Western friends are keen to have a go again. 

[VMX247]

So who is going to step up to the plate for next years Nationals ? pre65-pre85 and sidecars,
time is of the essence. 
cheers

Which year do you mean?  If you mean 2010, I don't think there's any stepping up to do as I suspect it's already a done deal. 
If you mean 2011, my understanding is that our Western friends are keen to have a go again. 

Thanks
2010-Lets hope your right   
2011-  "      "      "       "       "
cheers

[Rossvickicampbell]

I think it will be a while before it is in the West again?

[AjayVMX]

I think it will be a while before it is in the West again?

Why do you think that? 

[motomaniac]

I'll go west if its at the best track in OZ - MANJIMUMP

[BAHNZY]

For someone to have a fair crack at a EVO / Pre85 only event the GCR's need to be tidied up. As the window of opportunity for rule changes has been missed for 2010, lets hope that the changes needed to stop riding up a class will be in place for the 2011 event. If not then Evolution might as well become redundant and just have a swag of Pre85 events. Will be interesting to see how many EVO bikes front the Pre85 line at Conondale.