budget bikes?

[matcho mick]

theres a R/Enfield Woodsman on e bay at the moment,6 days to go,good project budget material,although why anyone would want to transplant later model motor

[VMX247]

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Vintage-Motorcycle-Gearbox-Burman-AMC-Matchless-AJS_W0QQitemZ320378510474QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Motorcycle_Parts_Accessories?hash=item4a980c1c8a&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A1|66%3A2|39%3A1|240%3A1318|301%3A1|293%3A1|294%3A50

the OS folks are pinching our bits-quick get shoppin 

[matcho mick]

not as GOOD as the 49 G80 C "compy" gearbox,i especially liked the punch marks touch around the obvious  filed area where the numbers were "presented",pre disstressed as in "OLD" furniture,hmmmm wheres my number stamps 

[firko]

How about this sweetie Ariel at CD6?

[090]

Took me 8 pages to look at this thread. Its been a good read. I have sent some (lots) of money off to a chap in the US for a CZ twin pipe motor, frame and swingarm. With a donor bike that dad has, this bike will come together fairly quickly.
So it wont be a budget bike but another racer for pre 65. Cant wait.
CD7, theres a goal!

[albrid-3]

holshot, Talk to Rod Mc Donald Vic, He has a lot of dots, even a rare twin port dot 360.

[mainline]

How about this sweetie Ariel at CD6?

I know this guy, he races at Nudgee. He actually brought the bike with him when he came out from England not too long ago.

[walloway]

If anyone is interested I have BSA B50MX/Triumph T100R hybrid for sale. Not quite finished but complete, was running before disassembly for cosmetic resto. Has CZ front end, period Preston Petty guards and CZ steel coffin tank modified to fit as well as Triumph tank.Selling to finance another Tribsa cafe racer project.

[firko]

What kind of money are you asking Walloway?
Although the bike isn't a pre 65er it'd make a very sweet racer anyway. This is the type of bike that while being totally ilegal for pre 65, still ticks all of the boxes as a pre 65 "type" bike. Perhaps the idea we threw around at CD6 where the pre 65 cutoff should be widened to accept bikes that are 'in the spirit' of the era. Similar to the illfated pre 68 class. I await Michaels input.
I also wonder what the rule Nazis think about Mk8 Bultaco hubs on pre 65 and pre 70 bikes (and pre 75 for that matter). I saw a pair of Qld based Beezas at CD6 with those hubs fitted and pre 70 X on the plates.

[walloway]

How much? How I hate that question. Somewhere around $5000. Tell me what you think? I only decided to sell it last night after I bought another bike yesterday and this is the first place it has been offered.
 The motor dates at 04/70 and the frame is 07/71
Don

[Bamford#69]

Hi
Yes it was a pity more pre65 bikes never made it onto the  track at CD6 ,I understand that  some enjoy the building /restoring side of the sport, and of course the accumulation of injuries has to be taken into account as well, but well done  Dave AJS, Rob Ariel, Rory Metisse ,Alan ESO Metisse, were there any others that actually fired a shot?, it was great to hear some real scramblers,
Do we need an overhaul or reappraisal of the pre65 rules as there are plenty of anomallys that are confusing to anyone trying to get a budget racer started ,
eg; A 1971 650 Triumph motor is legal for Pre65
     A 1974 500 Triumph motor is legal for Pre 65
     A 1967 BSA B40 (Army issue ) is legal for Pre65
     A 1967 BSA B44 is not legal for Pre 65
     Is a Triumph TR5 T legal?  the motor is and the frame is not the same as the BSA single.   
I'm sure you can find others if you look long enough.
Over to you ,
Cheers

 

     

[LWC82PE]

eg; A 1971 650 Triumph motor is legal for Pre65
     A 1974 500 Triumph motor is legal for Pre 65
     A 1967 BSA B40 (Army issue ) is legal for Pre65
     A 1967 BSA B44 is not legal for Pre 65
     Is a Triumph TR5 T legal?  the motor is and the frame is not the same as the BSA single.

 



i say no to all the above as they are trying to worm their way in via the 'follow on rule' which i dont agree with or like

a 71 motor is a 71 motor so not pre 65 and i can tell you there are changes right through the 650 Unit constuction motors. They are not all exactly the same the same

same thing for the 74 triumph 500 triumph - pre 65 legal - no way
67 BSA army 350  - No.

TR5T - you mean the 500 unit single triumph twin motor in BSA B50 frame (Adventurer) pre 65 legal- i think definitely not but pre 75 for sure!

if you start allowing any those as follow on models then you should allow 75 TM's in pre 75 and 2007 TS185's in evo or pre 85. I am totally against trying to claim newer model bikes as follow on models as it opens up more cans of worms and starts many arguments as to what is a follow on model. There are too many people trying to bend the rules.
 

[VMX247]

If club members and clubs don't push the pre 68 and earlier era's ,they will treat us like mushrooms....
keep fighting the good fight  
BUY IT- ENTER IT -RIDE IT  

walloway don where are you ??
cheers

[Bamford#69]

Hi,
I agree with you,
I'm just reading the rule book ,"Tables of Machines and Components -1960,1965, Acceptablefor the Pre65 class are machines built up to and including the 1964 model.The only exception to this GCR is where the model remains UNALTERED after this date " Then they go on to say ; All Triumphs, All except T140 TSS T150 T160 and BSA unit single derivatives , just confusing and ambiguous.
but the TR5T is not the same frame or motor  as the BSA B50, they are different. the twin motor does not fit the B50 frame.  the Triumph TR5MX is the  single BSA B50, the Triumph TR5T is the 500 twin , ie; not a BSA single derivative
cheers

[GD66]

eg; A 1971 650 Triumph motor is legal for Pre65
     A 1974 500 Triumph motor is legal for Pre 65
     A 1967 BSA B40 (Army issue ) is legal for Pre65
     A 1967 BSA B44 is not legal for Pre 65
     Is a Triumph TR5 T legal?  the motor is and the frame is not the same as the BSA single.

 



i say no to all the above as they are trying to worm their way in via the 'follow on rule' which I dont agree with or like.

An admirable stand, or would be if the pre-65 class was flourishing, and embarassed with entries, but if there seemed to be only a handful of pre-65s at a ride day where there could have been up to a thousand machines, then surely it's time to lighten up, Leith...