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Offline Marc.com

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Re: How To TIG Weld
« Reply #15 on: May 12, 2009, 09:47:18 am »
I am not a bolier maker as their union/trade was deregistered in NZ for being useless bastards
I am a tradesman fitter machinist
I have welded a fair amount of stainless along the way

And yeah welding probably will kill you and sucks as a full time profession, I think welders earn every cent they earn.

regarding protective equipment, normally I use standard $50 welding helmet and riggers gloves, also roll your sleeves down and cover the front of your chest.


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Re: How To TIG Weld
« Reply #16 on: May 12, 2009, 09:52:47 am »
Thank you marcFX,
Your tips are gold.
Welding did not kill my Grandfather but it did leave a lasting image of him to those that loved him.
Wear all the protective clothing that you can afford when welding and have a fire extinguser or hose ready at all times.


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Re: How To TIG Weld
« Reply #17 on: May 12, 2009, 09:55:56 am »
sorry to hear about your Grandfather, the fumes from welding can be brutal as well as the radiation.

we used to get zinc poisoning from welding Galv a lot.... can't be good for you
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Re: How To TIG Weld
« Reply #18 on: May 12, 2009, 10:14:46 am »
Thanks marcFX,
MarcFX has started the next pearl of wisdom.
The welding gloves for TIG are not the same as for other types of welding.
The electrode hand glove is similar to other types but the filler hand glove is thinner leather so you can feed the rod into the puddle. This take some getting use to with leather gloves on. The filler rod is pushed through the hand by the thumb and then dabbed into the puddle. The rod is raised but must stay inside the gas shield area so it does not become contaminated.

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Re: How To TIG Weld
« Reply #19 on: May 12, 2009, 03:46:07 pm »
Normally I don't get involved in these threads but here goes,

Yes I am a boilermaker by trade (but that makes me no expert)
Yes I own a fabrication shop that does mig welding of mild steel, aluminium and stainless steel (more so the mild steel and that still does not make me an expert)
Yes I do a little tig welding manly my own items (still not one)

Aluminium tig can be not so difficult to do if you follow a couple of steps

Number one is clean material must be clean and like painting most of the work is in the preperation

Right gas for the job Argon for tig welding of aluminium and stainless

Right tungsten for the job (differs from stainless to aluminium)

Most blokes out there can weld stainless tig if they can oxy weld (oxy welding of steel is not that easy), the only other problem with aluminium tig welding is controlling the amperage when welding and also the molten pool as with aluminium the pool does not change colour (unlike steel), also with the heat transfer the job can soon get very hot and you will find you have to much amperage so always best to pre-heat your aluminium jobs and start with a lower amperage as it is easier to control.

Mosts castings on bikes will have a aluminium alloy base of magnesium (the more magnesium the lighter it is) and things of a structural nature more silcon based alloys as straight aluminium is very soft and of little structural use.

Welding machine wise I am not going to comment on as it will depend on the amount of use you need it for and the type of welding you do but with aluminium welding you need a machine with HF (high frequency) that keeps the arc from job to the tungsten on AC welding. We use a Kemppi brand machine that are good but are very dear to buy.

I would think the man with the most knowledge on this would be Geoff Morris as he does it day in day out.


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Re: How To TIG Weld
« Reply #20 on: May 12, 2009, 04:06:05 pm »
My turn...
I am not a Boilermaker.
I am a Domestic Engineer (underpaid).
I have welded the hay shed roof trusses.(on the ground)
Can you TIG weld anything else but Aluminium?.
Are MIG and TIG the same ?
Thanks & cheers  8)
Best is in the West !!

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Re: How To TIG Weld
« Reply #21 on: May 12, 2009, 04:23:05 pm »
Hi STW996,
Thanks for your input.
I am so glad you decided to add to this topic.


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Re: How To TIG Weld
« Reply #22 on: May 12, 2009, 04:26:53 pm »
Hi VMX247,
TIG can weld all metals including brass.
Mig and TIG are very different.
TIG is great because there is no splatter so nothing to clean up after the welding.

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Re: How To TIG Weld
« Reply #23 on: May 12, 2009, 05:31:12 pm »
My TIG welder is made in Hong Kong and costs about $1800.00. It comes with a 12 month warranty and a spare parts back up service.
It is a 200amp AC inverter type.


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Re: How To TIG Weld
« Reply #24 on: May 12, 2009, 05:45:45 pm »
There are a lot of dials and switches on these TIG units but they all mean something.
We have to learn what they do and how do we get the best out of our welders.


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Re: How To TIG Weld
« Reply #25 on: May 12, 2009, 05:51:47 pm »
For my example I will write about aluminium TIG welding.

The first dial is "Pre Flow"
To weld Aluminium Argon gas is used.
The Pre Flow dial is set so the gas will flow for a set time prior to the arc starting. This shields the work piece from contamination on start up.


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Re: How To TIG Weld
« Reply #26 on: May 12, 2009, 05:58:18 pm »
The next dial is "Base Current"

If we go to the Miller's site http://www.millerwelds.com/resources/calculators/tig_amperage_calculator.php and use their calculator we discover that the amperage range for 3mm thick aluminium fillet welds is 100-140amps.

So the base current dial can now be set to 100amps.

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« Reply #27 on: May 12, 2009, 06:02:11 pm »
The next dial is "Peak Current"

Referring back to the Miller's calculator we see that the top end of the amperage range is 140amps.
We can now set the peak current dial.
When welding aluminium we will have to adjust this dial so we don't melt or over penetrate the work piece.

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« Reply #28 on: May 12, 2009, 06:06:28 pm »
The next dial is "Down Slope"

This dial controls the amperage when we release the trigger. After all you don't want peak current when finishing a run. I have found setting this dial pointing straight up is fine.

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« Reply #29 on: May 12, 2009, 06:09:20 pm »
"Pulse Width"

This dial allows us to broaden the pulse width which simply means the width of the puddle.
With this dial we can make the puddle 6mm or 3mm wide.

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