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Loydee

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Ts185 Poor Starter/Compression
« on: March 17, 2009, 01:03:12 am »
Hi there have a TS185 ERwith starting issues. I've never had it start normally with a kick, only when I chucked some fuel down the plug hole. Took to an engineer mate for analysis who's a right big fella and he could kick it up within 3/4 kicks. Short of taking steroids whats the solution ;D. I think the bike is "borderline" in some area. The compression reads 100psi (throttle WFO) isn't this kinda on the lower limit?
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Re: Ts185 Poor Starter/Compression
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2009, 02:46:55 am »
I bought a second hand ER some years back with 7000 k's on the clock and It would take 20-30 kicks to fire up. I bought a carb kit on eBay, stripped the carb and soaked it in acryllic thinners for a few hours, reassembled it and it became a 2-3 kick starter from then on.

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Re: Ts185 Poor Starter/Compression
« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2009, 04:02:48 am »
Yes, have stripped the carb and blown through passages.Carb also Ok when put on my other TS. Ignition gives same values as the running one too...
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Re: Ts185 Poor Starter/Compression
« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2009, 09:34:53 am »
100 PSI is very low should be 160 +
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Re: Ts185 Poor Starter/Compression
« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2009, 01:21:39 pm »
buy a new o/size piston/rings and give it a rebore it will do wonders for it!


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Re: Ts185 Poor Starter/Compression
« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2009, 05:33:55 pm »
crank case seals probably need to be done. As soon as i did that, a rebore and went through the carby on mine is a 2nd kick starter when cold.
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Re: Ts185 Poor Starter/Compression
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2009, 08:07:56 pm »
hard starting can also be due to a defective reed valve or maybe even the petals jammed slightly open by dirt or grit depending what country you are in ;) sounds like it may need the treatment TT5 Matt mentioned above to bump the compression back up to where it should be ;)
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Re: Ts185 Poor Starter/Compression
« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2009, 05:56:30 am »
Thanks for comments -an update. My other {red :( }TS185 starts Ok and being curious checked the comp -psi is 90-100 on that. Put new rings in the "reluctant" one -no change on psi. I know seals are Ok cos I just did them.Still wouldn't start.Went back to it a day or so later after using the carb on red TS and bingo!  ;D. It now starts 1st kick w/choke and I've been riding it all afternoon.
Well pleased but jesus these ol bikes are beyond me... Are they all female by any chance? ???
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