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« on: September 16, 2007, 08:19:15 pm »
Recently read this article on Molasses dipping and decided to share with everyone
due to size limits I had to list one page at a time
Please make sure you read all three pages.

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Re: Molasses dipping page 3
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2007, 08:40:27 pm »
Thanks Oldrodder - the mollasses seems to work great!  What was the magazine you found the article in.  Seems like it might be a good one to get.  Cheers Steve
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« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2007, 10:45:06 pm »
Thanks Oldrodder it sure looks like it does a good job with out much effort now I have to find a swimming pool to fit my rusty old XD ute in.
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« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2007, 08:01:04 am »
Something that big should be better with BI CARB blasting or similar, or I did get a 1955 chev dipped many years ago, somewhere in melbourne.

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« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2007, 02:25:21 pm »
great article , but a bit low on info ?   what are ratios ? size of containers, time per item.  can any omne fill in the gaps with content for us on the best way to De rust using th molasses method ?
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« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2007, 03:22:12 pm »
great article , but a bit low on info ?   what are ratios ? size of containers, time per item.  can any omne fill in the gaps with content for us on the best way to De rust using th molasses method ?

Reading page 1 he said he used about 120 litres of water then added five litres of molasses and then left them a few weeks.
I am in the process of setting one up to soak a fuel tank in so will let you know a bit more as I go through the process.

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« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2007, 04:19:18 pm »
yes i have a 44 gallon drum im thinking of putting to better use.  i assume its not reactive in the sence of in water it has no shelf life ? if i make up a molasis tank it would remain active for some time ? or does it bio degrade.

i would assume the ratio of mix would also affect the reaction time and activeness on the metal ?  Would be good if you can get the testing process under way, just i dont like my chances of pouring the wrong mix down my street late on night :O) in some covert opperation, althouhg i could be convinced to throw it on my neighbours lawn , bastards.,
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Re: Molasses dipping page 3
« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2007, 11:19:32 pm »
Freaky you might be better off with a plastic tank it might slowly eat away at a metal tank maybe. what do you think?
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« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2007, 11:27:26 pm »
i have no idea thats why im posting > is it active ? so if you leave metal in the tank will it desolve ? or is it only active on the iron  rust ? if its not active on steel the 44 would hold it like a solvent ?

i have no idea. where are all the experts when you need em ?
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« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2007, 11:34:58 pm »
I will ask the man at the produce supplies when I pick up the molasses.

This next quote came out of wikipedia
Molasses is a chelating agent. A rusty object placed for two weeks in a mixture of one part molasses to nine parts water will lose its rust due to the chelating action of the molasses

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« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2007, 12:20:51 am »
yep so it chisels, but does it eat drums :O)

could always use those big plastic bag to line it i guess, you get them thick ones desiged to fit into drums .....mmmm
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« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2007, 01:44:37 am »
Correct . molasses does have chelating properties and it chisels the iron oxide off the iron. it does not change the iron in any way shape or form. as long as the vessel has a decent amount of good steel/iron  as  its base it will be fine . if its rusted thru . your gonna have a huge sticky sweet mess to clean up.

 I put half a litre in a tank a few nuts and bolts as a helping hand and top up with water and put the lid on  then a shake every few days . after a week it gets a good flush with water and a swirl of oily premix  to coat the fresh steel.


 watch when u take the lid off as gases are created in the process and it will spew a bit of crap out  ...or blow the lid off so dont leave it sealed for too long

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« Reply #12 on: September 18, 2007, 09:45:01 am »
the old forum had some pretty good info on this too.
back then, i was talking to a work mate about this molasses stuff as he's into a healthy shed lifestyle and he went on to tell me about an older family member of his who restores old road bikes and swears by his molasses tank.
and if you ever gotta get rid of it Freaky, i understand cows quite like it.
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« Reply #13 on: September 18, 2007, 10:23:57 am »
we got horses i here they like it, but ill just have to tell the misses it has not rusty bits in it.

the 44 is new, just have no use for it and it has one of thoselids with a ring so it would be perfect.  I just got to fint something rusty :O)
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« Reply #14 on: September 18, 2007, 10:36:16 am »
i wonder if it will shine up fork bottoms? magnesium or alloy.  ::)
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