Yes, Roger ... remember all those who found a sad Mk9 or Mk10 Frontera and ground off the grab handles, skid plate (some bolted, some welded), centre stand brackets and so on then turned the enduro into an MXer? There'll be a frantic rewelding exercise by some as vinduro really starts to take a national hold. By the way, thanks for the PM on my Frontera issue. The search continues .....