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Offline frostype400

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how do i obtain original paint
« on: December 29, 2008, 10:18:38 pm »
hi im doing up my 74gt80a and its in hi sparkle blue i have a front nos fender in the exact colour but the rest of my bike needs to be sandblasted and sprayed where can i get the original paint or do i have no choice but to let someone match my original nos fender thanks Michael. :)
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Re: how do i obtain original paint
« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2009, 03:04:44 pm »
the only way you are going to do it is to get it mixed. i would probably respray the fender too so it all matches. not all paint shops like to match the paint as most of them just pull the data off a computer, find a old school one and they are normaly up for the chalange. i will have to do the same when i come to paint my one.
Have you got the tank grafix yet? saw some in us at speed and sport, but their postage was almost as expensive as the grafix!

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Re: how do i obtain original paint
« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2009, 04:17:57 pm »
yes i bought some from speed and sport when the exchange rate was good only cost me $110 australian when I got them i will keep a look out for you it might help to contact them and query that because it cost me 110 to have them here im in Vic ill send you some details i no a guy on this forum who has very good original gt80's for sale for $800 the pair i think he may be in NSW but he didnt want to sell me his parts but you may be interested in his buying one of them for parts ill pm you his details thanks again Michael.
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Re: how do i obtain original paint
« Reply #3 on: January 01, 2009, 04:34:25 pm »
well i like to work from a sample of original paint.at work we use a colour catalogue to eye match a colour sample card to the original. if a match cant be found that way we will mix up a colour, spray it on a piece of card/metal and hold it against the bike part with correct colour. we then add tinters as required to come to the correct colour. it does take a little while to do. sometimes we have sent samples to the Spies Hecker paint suppler in Adelaide and they have paint specialist there that can match it by a special method, i think its called spectrum analyisng. we hardly ever do that now and just match it our selves. matching candy colours or metalics is usually pretty easy as there is usually the basic green, blue, red, gold, orange etc and the colurs can be varied by the amount of colour you put on the silver base. with some/a lot of candy metalic colours the see thru colour goes on top a silver base. the final colour will depend on how much of the colour you spray on the silver base. most of the 70's metalic colours on bikes were done like this.

keep in mind that unless the nos fender was kept away from sunlight it wont be an accurate indication of original colour due to fading. i like to find a sample under  tank badge for example.

i suggest you look in your Yellow pages for specialist Automotive crash supply place that sells professional quality paints, or look for a specialist motorcycle painter in your area.

another option is to go to your local Autobahn, Motormate, Sprint Auto car accessory shop and they can match and mix up colours for you

generally a paint name like sparkle blue will mean nothing to a painter. it is of no use unless we can know the original colour formula to get some mixed up or cross referenced to a modern brand or can order it from a yamaha dealer by yamaha part number for example. eg with the 74 T500 im doing it is  Candy gypsey red which doesnt meant much and its NLA. we have only been able to find a very small sample under some non original black paint behind the oil tank. sometimes you have to carefully go looking for traces of original colours under layers of non original paint others have sprayed over top.
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Re: how do i obtain original paint
« Reply #4 on: January 01, 2009, 10:02:21 pm »
Hi Leith theres a smash repair place around the corner from me the paint on the fender is like new definetley has not been in sun and the underside of tank and rear fender are untouched just the top and side were sprayed a few times ill ring them up after ive had everything sandblasted thanks Michael. :)
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Re: how do i obtain original paint
« Reply #5 on: January 01, 2009, 10:11:28 pm »
i just took a maico side cover to a paint place the matched it no problem cost me 50 bucks  for enough base coat /2pac to paint 2 bikes .it easy 

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Re: how do i obtain original paint
« Reply #6 on: January 01, 2009, 10:24:16 pm »
yeah i could probably just get the smash repairer to do it he's done dads utes door when it got smashed and it was a good job they have plenty to work with the front fender is like new
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