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Offline shortshifter

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Try something different!
« on: October 20, 2008, 01:39:38 pm »
Euro bikes had never really appealed to me,but I'd only ever read about them or seen them,never ridden one.A mate told me to try his CZ 250 on the weekend.How good was it?Bloody good!After getting the thing going (Tall 1st gear) and sorting out the big gear changes and handling,the thing just got better and better.Pretty meaty low down and mid range grunt ,still pulling in 4th at the end of the straight.Good brakes.I was knackered by the end of the ride but grinning from ear to ear.Might be time to start saving some more coin and investigating the world behind the Iron Curtain.

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« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2008, 02:04:38 pm »
My sentiments exactly. I take any opportunity to talk a cz up. I bought a 74 400 'cause it looked good and im an impulse buyer. After purchasing it i thought it was a big mistake, but after riding it and being told how bullet proof they are, i changed my tune real quick. i let a forum member take it for a ride and gave it the thumbs up as well.

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« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2008, 02:56:19 pm »
They always had a good reputation although on paper they never looked the 'goods'. I went close to buying one in about 74-75 but was put off by the price and the precieved lack of parts/dealers ::).

I would love to throw my leg over one to see what the fuss is about and to see what I missed out on ::).

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« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2008, 11:21:00 am »
CZs can be made to go very fast, but you've got to be prepared to spend the money & time!  In standard form they are very reliable & easy to work on. 

The gearbox itself is pretty bulletproof, but it does take some time to get used to that long shift action.  My tips?  Stay off your modern and take your time with your gear change.  You soon get used to it.

CZs feature quite possibly the best drum brakes out there, too.  Mid 70's CZ brakes are still bigger than anything fitted to Maicos or Jap equipment well into the 80's.

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« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2008, 11:55:04 am »
I've had a go on a 125,only round the pits mine you ,but I reckon they are a neat little bike.
oh and I didn't find the gear change bad at all.
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« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2008, 12:35:43 pm »
CZ brakes indeed set the standard for pre '75 stopping power. Although the hubs look a bit heavy they're in fact quite light, being made of magnesium, a material which presents a couple of problems however. As many of you have probably found out the hard way, magnesium tends to become brittle with age and suffers badly from moisture corrosion.  It pays to check your CZ hubs (or anything else made from mag) very, very carefully . The last thing you need is a mag hub exploding like a broken beer bottle as you brake hard going into the first corner. It happened to me but luckily it was the mag back hub on my Maico self destructing during a burnout at the drags. At an early Nepean vintage dirt track meet I was riding right behind the late, great Roy East who was aboard his famous Metisse when without warning going into turn one under hard brakes, his magnesium Rickman front hub exploded sending the old fella flying over the bars and head first into the track. The monster crash also took out  a few more of us that were following, luckily with no major injuries. Roy however, was knocked about a fair bit and it took him quite a while to recover. The Metisse eventually came back with Husky forks and front brake.

Regarding CZs generally though, I reckon they're one of the most underrated bikes available in the pre '75 division. They're easily dismissed by the less knowledgable racer because of their cobby looks, funky ergos and lack of plastic but when you look inside at what makes them tick you'd be blown away by how sturdy the gearbox and bottom end are and how efficient the porting arrangement is. I know it's well worn hype but CZs really are almost bulletproof. The five speed '74 model trans did have some dodgy top gear issues but even that is uncommon. There are shitloads of trick aftermarket stuff available for them ranging from GMCs lightweight frames to reed conversions, plastic replacement fenders and tanks, and heaps more. The Jikov carby is finicky but a Mikuni goes straight on and works well. Having said that, my mate Stanleys fast ex George Pyne '74 250 still has the Jikov and it's as reliable as a slant six Valiant. The long throw gear change is a little disconcerting at first but after a couple of laps the "problem" disappears.
CZs can be bought for far less than the fashionable Maicos, Huskys and Spanish stuff but are more than capable to stick it to any of those more popular machines. I've raced a few CZs over the years and thoroughly enjoyed them. In fact I've got a basket case '73 250 in the shed awaiting it's turn on the resto production line.
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Re: Try something different!
« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2008, 05:05:55 pm »
Yeh, I've enjoyed the occasional ride on CZ's too. I well remember my 1st ride - a 72 400 yellow-tanker when I was 14 or 15. Blew me away! As I recall, plenty of power, nice suspension, good brakes & sweet handling.

My last ride was equally as memorable, but for the opposite reason. It was a 74 125 & next to a 125 BSA bantam it was the most gutless bike I've ever ridden!

Having feasted my eyes on several beautiful CZs at CD5 I came away thinking the 74-75 Falta CZs were one of the nicest looking of all VMXers. They really do look a treat in the flesh w all the polished alloy & red frame.

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« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2008, 05:25:33 pm »
I couldn't agree more about the CZ125 John. I rode one at a dirt track club day a few years ago and it was even slower than a Bultaco Lobito, the silliest dirt bike ever made. Despite it being such a slug on the track it was still a bunch of fun to ride. It was the only bike I've ever ridden at flat chat, full throttle around Nepean and that's gotta mean something!

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« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2008, 06:00:49 pm »

Having feasted my eyes on several beautiful CZs at CD5 I came away thinking the 74-75 Falta CZs were one of the nicest looking of all VMXers. They really do look a treat in the flesh w all the polished alloy & red frame.

MMMmmmm 8)

Blinged to the max. 8)

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Re: Try something different!
« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2008, 09:38:47 pm »
Good example of an older model with a few tasty modern highlights.What about that track its photographed on,nice.

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« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2008, 12:32:13 pm »
I took this foto of one of Heavens Hotshot Evo riders on
my new aquisition at the lastest Round at Clarence.

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« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2008, 01:50:58 pm »
It may be a tad over the top and dripping with billet bling, some of of dubious legality, but one has to admire this mega trick Kiwi CZ.

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« Reply #12 on: October 25, 2008, 05:06:58 pm »
Ive got to say Noel and Firko,Id have both these bikes in my shed in an instant.I read about the Kiwi bike in VMX mag.All those hand built bits,the guy's an artist!

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« Reply #13 on: October 25, 2008, 05:18:05 pm »
Many of you will remember this beauty from CD5 - and the Klub Kevlar compound in the background.
I love the look of these bikes... so industrial... so MAICO! ;)
Who copied who on the coffin tank? Anyone, anyone, someone??
"Whadaya mean it's too loud?! It's a f*ckin' race bike!! That pipe makes it go louder - and look faster!!"

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« Reply #14 on: October 25, 2008, 05:29:18 pm »
And again...
"Whadaya mean it's too loud?! It's a f*ckin' race bike!! That pipe makes it go louder - and look faster!!"